On Iran, I think that the Republicans & Their Friends Have Aspergers.

[TheBigotBasher]

A friend of mine considers me to be an Aspy, but that does not make me a Republican. The GOP and their approach to the situation in Iran have shown to them to have the same disregard of the consequences of their comments that those who are Aspies can have.

Take John McCain. (Go on please, take him anywhere). Whose last contribution towards Foreign Policy on Issues of Iran was such a success.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg&hl=en&fs=1&

Well now, he wants the President of The United States of America to intervene and call the election in Iran fraudulent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeJKl4h3Sg&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

I wonder what Republicans would have said if Middle East politicians had intervened in the 2000 Elections?



I trust that there are enough here who remember the pain of the 2000 election.

They have all swallowed the same bigotaid. Even Mittens is doing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiEMwtHrLz4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

And of course Fox News is running the same line. Fox News have swallowed the very same bigotaid that the stupid of stupid readers at Nothalfbigoted NoQuarter have swallowed.

If Secret Agent Flowbee had ever wanted to regain some credibility after his ridiculous whitey tape incident, which resulted in Michelle Malkin of all people calling him a nut and highlighting this blog report on why he should never be trusted, this issue is one where his thoughts may be welcome. After all his many years of experience on "terrorism and counter intelligence" (lol) may have led to some wise words of wisdom.

But no - he has left the NoQuarter discussions on Iran up to his ratfucking "Neo-Con Dems". Take the idiotic statement of "Seattle Moss", straight out of the Fox News line of the day.

Liberating Iraq is now having the desired effects of spreading the hope of freedom throughout the region and especially in Iran.
However, Obama doesn’t believe in freedom and looks lovingly to dictators as the model to follow.

Even a free and liberated Iraq with rights for Women and the yoke of tyranny lifted is not enough for those who are still against the war.

The events in Iran are showing us the power of liberty despite the costs involved…

Obama is no champion of liberty or the freedom movement in Iran.

This of course is the Free Iraq that has been left to Local Militia, paid and armed by the US and UK army to cut down on terrorism. Nothing like paying terrorists to stop terrorism. Especially, when the result of the Iraq war was to change a Country that was secular, to one run by militia using the Shi'a sect of the Muslim religion as an excuse to torture gays and murder women for "crimes" of adultery. Operation Freedom indeed.

It is no surprise that the American right have no shame for the crimes that their Government committed in Iraq. They have no shame that having threatened Iraq, Iran and North Korea, and then by invading Iraq, that the Countries of Iran and North Korea would up their arms anté. Iraq got invaded because they could not show that they had no weapons of mass destruction. Iran and North Kuwait have not been invaded because they made their military strength quite known.

More sabre rattling from a McCain Government would have meant there most definitely would have been a nuclear programme in Iran.

Thankfully, those protesting in Iran will not be getting the help of American Conservatives. Nor should the President intervene.

The Ayatollah may have bitten off more than he can chew by countenancing these election results, but that is for the People of Iran to decide. It should not be the official policy of the United States.

Most definitely given what McCain has said about Iran I remain ever grateful to the 69.3 million Americans who picked the right man for the job in November. If those highly suspicious reports about Clinton and Biden wanting Obama to get tougher, are right, I thank the Democratic Party for picking the right candidate.

I think that the opinions expressed by http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/opinion/18kerry.html&OQ=_rQ3D3Q26refQ3Dopinion&OP=a82d108Q2FQ3DIQ5CzQ3DQ20_PQ5Dl__RQ2BQ3DQ2BppQ5BQ3DpJQ3De-Q3D_a)q)_qQ3De-fQ5CllX2kRQ2AB">John Kerry and the National Security Network make clear how utterly dangerous the Neo Con right of America have become.

(Cross posted - http://thebigotbasher.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/i-think-that-the-republicans-their-friends-have-aspergers/)

[vixengrl]

1. I don't know if John McCain has quite gotten straight in his head

the notion that these young people who have taken to the streets by day, and to their roofs by night, are the people he was talking about bambing when he crooned, "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." And I don't think he's squared away the picture of democracy that isn't our democracy--that didn't owe us anything. What about a democracy because it's honest and people like it--and not because anyone forced people to accept it? What about chilling out and letting things happen without undermining the reform movement by lending credence to the lie of western involvement that the Ayatollahs want to spread?

We aren't Persians now, anymore than we were Georgians when McCain thought we should be Georgians (and Georgians protested Shakashvili a heartbeat ago, so maybe McCain can't pick'em.) Even Bill Kristol makes more sense than McCain on this topic.

Bill Kristol. Which should give us all pause about how nuts McCain is. Not that Krauthammer and Wolfowitz have made better points.

I think, personally, that Obama's Cairo speech, and the lessons of his campaign. had more to do with the Twitter revolution than Iraq did, anyway. I just don't see how these people (the neo-cons) can look at the same data, and draw such perversely wrong ideas about what is going on. It is like a different brain-format in a way.

[TheBigotBasher]

4. As the title suggests,

although Aspies tend to be high functioning, high intelligence people with restricted views of social outcome. Only the latter applies to Republicans.

I really do not understand what Republicans are thinking when they suggest that the President should wade in fully to this. If they are really suggesting that this is what they would do I am so very pleased on so many levels that Barack Obama is President.

For this issue, above all else, I can in part and temporarily forgive the administration for everything I have been annoyed about, including DOMA.

[dorkulon]

2. I'm taking bets: How long until the OP is flamed for slurring people with Asperger's?

You insufficiently sensitive bastard!!!! :spank:

[TheBigotBasher]

5. Yeah I did kind of think about that.

After all who wants to be associated with Republicans? However I am happy for you to spank me.

[gblady]

7. must say....

I consider it an insult to Aspies...
who have a special place in my heart.

Republicans....not so much.

[boppers]

9. I was ready to flame.

Aspies are not nearly this stupid, however. Quite the opposite.

"Culturally tone deaf" would be more appropriate for the republicans, because while many Aspies don't pick up on the same visual/interpersonal cues that NT's do, Aspies *can* (and do) excel at complex strategy games, where interpersonal cues matter less than complex, multi-group, calculations... such as processing a "game" with 40 million or more players.

After all, most adult Aspies learned to be sociable, and high functioning, with a strategy, a rule-set, rather than ever "innately learning to pick up the cues" that NT's have.

[iconocrastic]

3. Thank God Congress has a clue

and condemned the actions against the freedom fighters

[TheBigotBasher]

6. I never liked the terms "Freedom Fighters" or "Terrorists".

The difference is always dependent upon on one or more of a few factors, whether or not you either agree with their cause, whether you sold them the weapons and/or whether you want the existing regime out.

[iconocrastic]

13. That's why I call them freedom fighters

I don't subscribe to phony "I won't make a value judgment" attitudes.

[madeline_con]

8. People with Asperger's are intelligent. Repugs, not so much. n/t

[Independent_Voice]

10. I'm pleased to see a lot of supportive comments here...

...about those of us who've been diagnosed with Aspergers.

The Hollywood writers seem to just want to make us the butt of bad jokes. :(

[boppers]

11. Welcome to DU.

Like wikipedia, it turns out that Aspies have immense power on the internet, where clear thinking, non-"social" (no facial recog, no emotional sympathy projected, etc.), rule-based, interaction, is actually highly valued.

I look forward to seeing your future posts.

[TheBigotBasher]

14. Hey welcome to DU.

ANd I agree with you about Hollywood.

[quakerboy]

12. That implies that they dont know what they are doing.

I would submit that they are not tone deaf or oblivious to what they are doing. They NEED big scary Iran.

It is in their best interests to do anything they can to maintain the status quo in Iran. If they can tap well meaning sympathies for the Iranian protesters to undermine their credibility, they see it as a win win. Do something popular at home, plus pump up their "fear them" credentials again. The chance to knock Obama just makes it a three way winner in their calculations.

They know what they are trying to accomplish. And they are doing it very intentionally.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

15. Geez!!! Do we even have PROOF that the elections were "stolen"?

If not, then making allegations about a "stolen election" in Iran irresponsible if not reckless. I'm also curious to know what country the Repukes and idiots over at Fox News think they're talking about? UK? France? Germany? Iran is a freaking DICTATORSHIP run by religious leaders and where the President is little more a FIGUREHEAD!!! :banghead:

[Occam Bandage]

19. Of course not. What proof could exist?

The only information we have is that which has been published by the Internal Ministry. We can only have statistical models that suggest it is extraordinarily likely.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. Statistical models based on.........................

..........information published by the Internal Ministry. My point being that I would think it difficult, if not impossible, to prove the existence of fraud in a country governed by a dictatorship. That being said, if the Iranian people genuinely believe that the vote was "rigged" and are revolting against the government in response, then I'm all for it. But we shouldn't try to insert ourselves into the situation at any rate or make accusations of fraud ourselves IMHO.

[Life Long Dem]

16. Yeah, this morning on CNN,

they had a "take a look at this" piece on President Obama saying "the world is watching" and CNN asking the question "Is that enough?".

[Phx_Dem]

17. George H.W. Bush encouraged a revolt in 1991 Iraq and it didn't work out

too well for the tens of thousands that were killed by Saddam. McCain's senility probably prevents him from remembering as far back as 1991.

http://www.alternet.org/world/49864/

[Occam Bandage]

18. Aspies are generally quite intelligent,

and I think a learned person with Aspergers would actually be more likely to come to the correct decision regarding Iran than would an equally learned neurotypical person. Aspies (by necessity) study and understand human interaction on an intellectual level, while neurotypical people rely on the empathetic-echo circuits that Aspies lack. An Aspie would be more likely to decide on the dry facts: that the United States has a history of meddling in Iran, and that protection against American meddling is a primary justification for the current regime. A neurotypical person, on the other hand, would be more likely to unwittingly and falsely extend his or her own perception of American power when formulating his predicted Iranian response.

(An Aspie would at first glance seem more likely to make that mistake, of course, but in reality would be less likely to use a decision-making pathway that would call upon the specific, personal emotional reactions of others)

[Cha]

20. All the republicons are really good at..

is to throw shit and hope it sticks.

They think they see a trap for the president..they're so easy to dissect..all it takes is a shit reflector.

How awful would it be for them to be in power with mccain-palin out there smirking, winking and nodding?

[MurrayDelph]

21. Why do so many disease symptoms sound like the name of the doctor who discovered them?

My sister died from complications from Crohn's, which had left her old and withered.

My grandmother died (at 86) of Alzheimer's, which of course sounds like the OldTimer she was.

Now all of these Republicans are turning into Ass-burgers.

Personally, I would not be surprised to find out that they all were being treated by Dr. Shitheel.