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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:44 AM
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Rightists are feeling their oats a little versus Obama
They seem to be getting more brazen in their predictions of doom and gloom, claiming that Obama is losing support because of the inevitable "hyperinflation" and his alleged foreign policy blunders.

Are they getting any traction on this or is it just so much more of the bullshit?

I ask because I had a wingnut friend and an even more wingnut brother-in-law over this weekend and although I pretty much kept my mouth shut (they were my guests) I had to bite my tongue. It's funny how the vanquished can still find ways to be so smug and arrogant about how deluded we all are and how we will get a rude awakening and blah blah, whatever Limbaugh-inspired crap they were spewing.

I'm also a little chagrined about the lessening of enthusiasm here. The last thing any of us want is a Republican/"conservative" resurgence. Isn't it?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:45 AM
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1. His approval ratings are in the mid 60's.
And criticism here can still mean overall support for him.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:52 AM
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3. Support for him on DU is at almost exactly the same level as support for him in general.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:22 AM
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15. Yep and "loud" does not equate "numerous." NT
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:51 AM
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2. Nneither do we want a Democratic/conservative resurgence. But that is what we have gotten, so far.
Obama thinks that liberals will have no choice other than to support him, no matter what he does.

He is wrong.

He could have become a great President if only he would dare to. Instead, he caters to the reich and the ConservaDems.

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:52 AM
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4. Obama is the new Hitler
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 08:52 AM by Teaser
He will kill more gypsies than Hitler ever did. He is satanically evil.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:27 AM
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17. ROFL
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:53 AM
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5. You said it! That's why he's getting more involved in the healthcare
debate, to thwart that librul agenda.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:02 AM
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6. Nonsense. You have missed where the conservative Dems run Congress
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 09:03 AM by Thrill
Every time he takes strong progressive stances. Democrats leave him hanging by the balls, like going after farm subsidies for big Agribusiness, Corporate Eax loopholes, Like on the gitmo closing funding. And Reid letting Nelson have more power than him in the Senate.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:16 AM
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9. I don't think Obama takes liberals for granted
I think he's smart enough to understand the value of a coalition. The "my way or the highway" thing is just too Bush/Cheney, and it's not working so well at the moment.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:02 AM
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7. Newt says America has failed and Obama is a false prophet.
Yes, I find it amazing too, but here's the proof...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090609/pl_bloomberg/affk5skijh5s

The fact that this guy has risen from a disgraced slimeball to an apparently accepted leader of the Republican Party ought to be fair warning for everybody. Gingrich should be slapped down fast and hard.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:06 AM
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8. Don't hold your breath waiting for Democrats to defend Obama
.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:19 AM
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12. Of course they won't defend Obama...
They didn't defend this earlier guy...



...why should they defend THIS guy?



And the Republicans will be in power in 2012 again. Thanks, Democrats!
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:20 AM
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13. It's a pity.
Intolerance and inflexibility are so contrary to what I think we're about.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:18 AM
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10. Yes, I neglected to mention Gingrich.
You're exactly right. He should be slapped down fast and hard.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:04 AM
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22. Newt should be promoted and he should run in 2012. He is extremely
unlikable. Newt/Palin 2012.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:18 AM
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11. From what I'm seeing in my industry, the Right Wing is right.
There is absolutely no stimulus.

I work in Environmental Permitting which is the first step in development both gov't and gov't licensed. My company (15 years old) is on the verge of folding and several of the companies I have sent resume's to are already gone. Everyone is laying off. I've never seen it this bad in 25 years- never.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:23 AM
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16. So you agree that we should have done the tax cut panacea?
You have never seen it this bad in 25 years. I agree.

Who drove us into this ditch? Now, after a whole 140 day you're really going to have the nerve to tell me that they're right?

<spits>
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:35 AM
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18. Only a shallow, ignorant ass wipe, could possibly think that
there are only two sides. Cut taxes, or raise spending. I hope you are not that ass wipe.

Obama seemed to realize late in the process that pumping huge amounts of cash into the economy all at once would cause inflation so he curtailed the spending and it is being drizzled out.

Seemingly they realize now that the process is going to slowly and now there is a "new plan" that will hurry the cash.

Hopefully the initial mistake will not be fatal (to me and mine).
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:53 AM
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19. I have found that "shallow, ignorant ass wipes" on the internet are quick
to call others who engage them "shallow, ignorant ass wipes" or various and sundry variations.

With all due respect I'm not interested in what you hope. Your opinion is of interest only if you have substance behind it. I see your opinion. I don't see a lot of substance--especially when you see fit to lead with thinly-veiled insults.

As for President Obama, he was elected by WE, THE PEOPLE because he was by far the best candidate. He is obviously extremely intelligent and talented. As Jared Bernstein said yesterday, unlike his predecessor President Obama encourages and assimilates all points of view.

Say what you will about Bernanke, Geithner, Goolesby, Bernstein, . . . these people are a lot smarter than you appear to be. I feel much better about them, and President Obama, being in charge than I would feel about you being in charge.

President Obama was elected. He inherited an unbelievable clusterfuck. It's been a mere 140 days. It's irrational to believe he's going to be perfect. It's equally irrational and patently unreasonable for you to think you can second guess him at this early date. He deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:15 AM
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23. 9.4 % unemployment and growing.
The only thing growing faster then unemployment is the debt, gas prices and cost of living.

Enough Substance for you.

Obama was sort of funny on Colbert though.

I agree that Obama was the better man for the job and I am proud to have voted for him and support him.

However, it is clear that he is feeling his way around this situation and people are getting hurt while trhe kinks are worked out.

Me, 15 members of what will soon be our former firm and this industry. Even more, as we work at the outset of projects and this industry is drying up- there seems to be little relief on the horizon.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:27 AM
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24. And unemployment will continue to grow
Employment is a lagging indicator and there's not a whole lot any of us can do about that until we turn that particular corner.

I'm sorry your employment prospects are bleak. Believe me, my phone isn't ringing and I'm not all that happy about that myself. You do have to understand that these things take time. Pumping money into the economy is the only way to turn this around, other than to wait a decade or two.

If you have some time on your hands, read up on Keynesian economics. Paul Krugman is a great place to start.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:34 PM
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30. Public Apology.
Bad situation is grating on me. No excuse to snap at a political and ideological allie. Hope springs eternal ann we (you and I alike) are just one project, one phone call, one contract from getting around this corner.

Again- Sorry for being a rude nit wit.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:57 PM
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31. Apology graciously accepted
No sweat buddy, and nice touch.

:-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 12:05 PM
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25. Touche! And,
you got that right.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:00 AM
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20. sad reflection of what DU is now
the RW is right?
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:03 AM
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21. I'm glad someone else picked up on this.
Unbelievable. Isn't it?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:22 AM
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14. And it's not doing them a damned bit of good. nt
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 12:16 PM
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26. It's a waiting game for the republicans. They believe in a year from now
America will be used to the first black President and that the coolness will have worn off by then. They're counting on that.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 01:09 PM
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28. Then we'll all believe in their tax cut panacea, and . . .
we will come to our senses and throw the bums out and we will go back to the glory days of the Bush Administration?

Yeah, right. Like that will ever happen.

(Sarcasm isn't directed at you)

The dance they're trying to do with the Bush legacy is kind of interesting. When you ask them about the Bush failures they lash out and declare that Bush isn't running--anything to evade the obvious question, which is how are they any different than the Bush administration?

Obviously they know that their connection to Bush is fatal.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 12:21 PM
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27. Of Course The Republicans Are Predicting Gloom and Doom
They have nothing else. Their policies failed miserably, and they can only re-gain control if Obama's policies fail. Now, they want to hold Obama, who's been president for 6 months, responsible for 8 years of a horrid economy.

The Republicans cannot win on their own. They have to hope that Obama loses in order for them to win.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 01:09 PM
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29. Pretty damn pathetic.
Isn't it?
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