CNN: Authorities hunt for man charged with threatening Obama

[HopeOverFear]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/05/utah.threat.against.president/index.html


(CNN) -- Federal authorities are searching for a man who has at least eight guns registered to him and has threatened to kill President Obama.

The man, identified as Daniel James Murray, is charged with making threats against the president of the United States.

He recently withdrew $85,000 from a Utah bank and told a teller: "We are on a mission to kill the president of the United States," according to court papers.

Murray is originally from New York, but was seen several times in late May in St. George, Utah, making bizarre statements at a bank.

According to a criminal complaint filed in federal court in Utah, Murray opened an account at Zions First National Bank on May 19 with a $85,000 check.

"With all this mess going on under President Obama with banks and the economy, I'm sure if citizens happen to lose their money, they will rise up and we could see killing and deaths," he said, according to the criminal complaint.

On May 27, he returned to the bank and tried to withdraw $12,000, but lacked proper identification.

"Not to be disrespectful, but if I don't get this money, someone is going to die," Murray said, according to the criminal complaint.


A bank manager was summoned and Murray was allowed to withdraw the money without proper identification.

Murray would not accept a check and demanded bills no larger than $50, the complaint says.

"We are 94 million miles from the sun, and are in between the sun and moon, and the eagle that flies between them and it's a giant step for mankind. ... I have traveled thousands of miles to be here and know things that are going to happen. ... the banking system will fail and people will die. ... there will be chaos in the world," Murray said.

He then made his threat against the president, the complaint says.

The next day, Murray returned to the bank, withdrew the rest of his money and closed the account.

Authorities do not know where Murray is and said he has been seen driving a blue 2001 Buick LeSabre with New York license plate number ERL 1445.

There are at least eight guns registered to Murray, including semi-automatic pistols and revolvers.

The president is on an overseas tour, having given a major foreign-policy speech in Egypt addressed to Muslims worldwide. He is now in Germany.

[Vinca]

1. This guy sounds like a bona fide threat.

I hope they put that plate number all over the television. He shouldn't be that hard to find.

[grantcart]

12. he seems to have missed the module on "keep your mouth shut and blend in"

[rocktivity]

14. Unfortunately, the bank seems to have missed the module on

"IMMEDIATELY calling the cops when a customer says someone will die if they don't get money"

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[LiberalFighter]

2. Where did he get $85,000? And why is he in Utah?

[HopeOverFear]

3. and why hasn't CNN put his photo on television?

[Adelante]

4. Another right wing terrorist - Note the "We"

Timothy McVeigh was originally from New York. It's my home state, but we've grown some beauts.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

5. What a fucking loser at life this guy is. n/t

[zbdent]

6. freeptardia furiously scrubbing it's subscriber database ...

[rocktivity]

7. ...(H)e...tried to withdraw $12,000, but lacked proper identification.

"Not to be disrespectful, but if I don't get this money, someone is going to die," Murray said, according to the criminal complaint.

A bank manager was summoned and Murray was allowed to withdraw the money without proper identification.

That "someone" Murrary referred to could have been a bank employee! Why, pray tell, didn't they call the cops right then and there? That's a threat if ever I heard one! And they gave him the money anyway!!!

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[bdamomma]

9. without proper identification and they give him the effing money????

they better find this guy, and why is that person at the bank not fired???? a substantial threat was made they better find this sickie.

[rocktivity]

10. But wait--there's more

After getting his money without proper ID, saying someone would die if he didn't, and THEN threatening the President, they let him leave, come into the bank another day, and call the cops only after he leaves!!! If ever there was a bank that DESERVED to be run on, this one is it!

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[bdamomma]

8. what effing sick people, damn we don't have to worry

about outside terrorists we have our own on our soil.

[KingFlorez]

11. What's his Freeper name?

[rocktivity]

13. Sounds like an episode of Reno 911

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[rvablue]

15. Why didn't the bank turn this guy in the first time he said something threatening?

From the way I'm reading the article, after the first time he showed up and made bizarre statements, he still made two return visits afterwards.

And the second withdrawal, given without proper ID, almost seems like the manager caved to his threats and at that point the police should have been alerted. The guy threatens to kill someone if he doesn't get money and no one calls the FBI??

And lastly, if you withdraw more than $10,000 the bank is required to file a special form with the IRS.....doesn't say anything about that in this article, but it doesn't mean he didn't do it.

[Occam Bandage]

16. Hold on. So he said, "if I don't get this money, someone is going to die,"

so they waived their rules and gave him $12,000 in small bills. Then he babbled about "knowing things that are going to happen," and "the eagle that flies between the sun and the moon," and claimed he was going to kill the President. Then they let him come back the next day, and gave him the rest of his money.

Then they called the cops.

That's some real fine banking there, Lou.

[rocktivity]

17. See post 13.

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[bdamomma]

18. whose to say that this guy driving this car will not get another car

Randi wants truckers to be on the look out for ERL 1445. The financial mess was not on Obama's watch.

[ericgtr]

19. Regardless don't dare take away his right to carry a gun in a bank

That would be a real tragedy.

[butterfly77]

20. I knew they would be coming..

out of the woodworks as a little time went by and they began seeing the results of the bush adm and they still can't see it. Where was this bastard for the 3,4,5,months that bush and cheney were just sitting there letting wallstreet and the rest of the crooks steal this country blind.

Oh,no they are not going to blame this mess on Obama, every chance I get I make sure everyone knows how we got into this situation. A lot of people who are blowing their tops are people who have never known what it is to struggle or have a hard time finding a job. Welcome to the club..What is that saying about when they came after the Jews,blacks or whoever and they didn't say anything now they will open their damn mouths and now they want to kill the person who is tryin to fix up their mess.

[sarah553807]

21. I'm sorry

But who the hell is running this shithole of a bank?