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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:28 PM
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Why do conservatives love free speech except when it comes to Obama speaking at Notre Dame?
Edited on Sun May-17-09 01:29 PM by Jennicut
When all the idiots they have speak anywhere (like Ann Coulter for instance) they always say that we cannot step on their free speech but for Obama (a Dem President, no less) there is a double standard. Nope. Obama cannot possibly speak being a pro choice President because free speech for a Dem Prez means nothing. Conservatives/Rethugs talk out both sides of their mouths all the time. Its little wonder they have lost so much credibility on every single issue that is important in the US.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:29 PM
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1. They only support free speech when it applies to pageant contestants. NT
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:30 PM
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4. Pageant contestants with fake boobs, of course.
Its so laughable.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:29 PM
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2. For the same reason that all Absolutist are like that; they think they ARE God.

Long Live Moral Relativism!

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:30 PM
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3. They are the most hypocritical group ever. That's why they
appeal to the uneducated, racist, sexist etc.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:31 PM
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5. They don't believe in "free speech," but "controlled speech"
speech that THEY control.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:32 PM
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6. Aren't these the same people who screamed that protesting the President during wartime was treason?
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:33 PM
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7. It's only free speech if people say what you want to hear, if its not what
they want to hear then they need protection from others opinions. Compare DU to freeperville, look at how fast they ban anyone that questions their opinions and then look around DU to see how far folks are allowed to go in voicing their opinions even if they don't like your opinion. Remember its double standard at its best.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:34 PM
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8. Because they don't want
Obama seen as an intelligent, caring, thoughtful president. That would bite into their rabid fundraising goals.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:36 PM
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9. I seem to remember a time not too long ago when a certain
minister, who needs not be named since we all know his name, was being vilified and dragged through the mud here on DU because he was speaking at the inauguration. And the larger number of DU'ers who were angrily adamant against his being allowed to speak because their political viewpoints were 100% the opposite of his. The knife cuts both ways...
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:18 PM
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13. The major difference was no one got a life time ban from DU nor was there any demands
that anyone with an opposite opinion be kept from voicing their opinions. While some folks did and do get carried away with trying to show their opinions as the right ones, some folks get that way with it and it gets a bit heated at times. Hey we all have a bad habit of thinking our opinions mean more then someone elses, but at the end of the day theres very few calls to silence opinions that don't jive with our belief system. 99% of the time it ends with we can agree to disagree.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:37 PM
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10. The same reason they claim to want the Federal Government out of their business
unless its about abortion, gay marriage, and guns. Hypocrites.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:59 PM
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11. Authoritarian conservatives generally oppose human and civil rights
Edited on Sun May-17-09 02:03 PM by Juche
Don't buy all that bullshit about them caring about freedom and independence. Authoritarian conservatives are among the most willing to strip the bill of rights away from people and to take away people's rights to disagree. They only claim to care about 'freedom' when 'freedom' is code for purging the nation from liberals and social deviants and being free of them.

Look at how quick they started screaming about tyranny and calling for military coups, seccession and rebellion after they lost a free, fair democratic election in a constitutional republic. These people don't give a fuck about freedom and never will, they only care about imposing their narrow philosophy.

Progressives are the ones who truly care about freedom. Look at american or world history and you'll see any time the world became more egalitarian and free chances are progressives were fighting for it, and authoritarian conservatives fought to make the world unequal. Who fought for civil rights, or women's rights, or ending child labor, or universal healthcare, gay rights, senior pensions, or direct elections? Who fought to stop these things?

I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but it infuriates me when people repeat those right wing talking points. Conservatives care about conformity and following heirarchies and the status quo, progressives care about freedom and will oppose power structures and the social order to make this world more free.


Not that liberals cannot be anti-freedom. I have seen this firsthand in college when some tried to shout down David Horowitz and other right wing speakers.

however if you look at the modern world and world history it is liberal progressives who fight for freedom and egalitarianism, and authoritarian conservatives who oppose these things.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:02 PM
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12. The same reason they hate "judicial activism" except for
overturning Roe v. Wade... hypocrisy.
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:21 PM
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14. why do they do anything......i have stopped wondering
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