"Speaking softly and carrying a tree trunk" those who misunderstood Obamas' resolve

[Peacetrain]

are in the deep stuff as they used to say. Obama is not carrying a stick, he is swinging a redwood.

President Obama does not need to yell or scream, or shake his fists, to make himself quite understood who is the alpha in the room.

Right siders have come to misunderstand what strength is. Strength is found in getting your people behind you and then going to battle. Strength is finding what your opponent has that can help you,and using it to your advantage.

Good to be us right now, sad to be them.. and that is the truth.

[Flying Dream Blues]

1. Very true! I feel so fortunate for all of us, even "them." nt

[Peacetrain]

2. Thank you, you are right.. it is fortuante for all of us...even them

:hi: ...

[Clio the Leo]

3. Or how about he's Johnny Appleseed ....

... and WE are the trees. ;)

[grantcart]

4. In a speech a couple of weeks ago he repeatedly used the word "persistent"

He uses a 'soft' approach in the same ways that the continual beating of the tides is just water, of course nothing can really stand up to the persistent pummeling of the ocean's waves.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Note that what we've seen is just a *noob*. Think a year or so from now...

When he's got a complete feel for all of the techniques that are in the Presidential toolkit.

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

6. The funny thing about this is that...

He does not even keep this "tactic" a secret. He has said in many of his chats: "if you are really strong, you do not need to keep yelling you are strong" (heavily paraphrased from memory).

[brentspeak]

7. Uh, what?

???

[lunatica]

8. I wouldn't be them for all the teabags in China

As miserable as it was for the last 8 years, I prefer being us during that time.

[asphalt.jungle]

9. that's what Sec Gates said in the snippet of the Fareed interview

that was released by CNN.

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[depakid]

12. Taking out pirates being towed behind a destroyer maybe....

Sooner or later, the conciliatory approach is going to run into trouble, and he'll have to actually go to the mat for something. It'll be interesting to see how he does.

[Peacetrain]

13. Give it up..just give it up already ...cripes

Edit to add at 3:40 PM CST

I have just about had it up to my eyebrows.. if I want to say that I think the President is okay by me in a Democratic activist area, ... well by GOD I am going to say it.. and you can take that calling me out by saying I am an empty knee jerk cheer leader and take it to Skinner if it so assaults your senses.

[paulk]

14. yeah, that's the typical reply I've come to expect here on DU

[Peacetrain]

15. you might want to check on the rest of my post that I added on..

[paulk]

16. just 'cause you want a circle jerk

doesn't mean the rest of us have to join....

[Peacetrain]

17. Well since I lack the equipment for said such exercise..

it is an impossibility. Just unbelievable

[paulk]

18. what's unbelievable?

That you post something on a public discussion board and expect everyone else who is a member to agree with you?

Why don't you address what I originally posted? You know - DEFEND your OP. Isn't that what a discussion board is for?

[Peacetrain]

19. Why don't you start your own thread on what you originally posted

instead of attacking mine. There is nothing to defend. I like the President.. End of story.

If you have something you want to discuss.. again START YOUR OWN THREAD!

[HopeOverFear]

20. you GO girl, tell those haters off...don't let them steal your joy

[Peacetrain]

21. I think my Irish has got the better of me today..

sheesh.. I was just feeling so good this morning.. wanted to share it with my fellow DUers.. arrrggghhhhhhhh :)

[GeorgeGist]

54. If only I could read ...

the words on the splitting-rails of your peacetrain, I might undertand what fuels you. Hope or Fear?

[Peacetrain]

55. You are the second person in two days to ask me that

:hi:, haven't a clue what is on those rails. A fellow DU'er found the gif for me, and I love it. But I have tried looking at it with a magnifying glass and still can't make out what is on the rails. Hope it is something positive!!

As I told someone else, if you can figure it out, let me know, I am as curious as anyone.

[Peacetrain]

56. HopeOverFear... I love that name.. Just the attitude we all need.

Welcome to the DU. Naw, no worries, Onward and Upward as they say. Nothing can tie you up in knots quicker, than fear. good moniker!

[paulk]

23. no, that's not the way it works

You posted your opinion on a public discussion board -

You think that the President has shown great resolve, that he's carrying around a stick the "size of a redwood". I disagree and provided examples of where I disagree.

Your job, as the OP, is to defend your argument.

Otherwise your post just looks like "empty knee jerk cheerleading" to me. That's my opinion - feel free to discuss why you feel it isn't.



You haven't been here very long, I guess you don't know the way these things work.

[HopeOverFear]

24. It works however the hell she SAYS it works

she has the right to say what she feels.

[paulk]

25. and I have the right to disagree

she seems to be having a hard time with that....

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[Peacetrain]

27. ~rofl~..you are making an assumption

that your opinion means anything to me.

[paulk]

32. it's clear from your posts in this thread

that any opinion that differs from yours doesn't mean anything to you.

I don't think that's anything to be proud of...

[HopeOverFear]

35. The same can be said of you. You're the kind of person who searches

for positive threads and injects them with your dissenting opinions on purpose, not for the genuine purpose of debate, but to start shit. You're not fooling me.

[paulk]

40. you've been here just over a month

do you really think you're qualified to judge my seven years here?

[HopeOverFear]

50. Yes, yes I am qualified. What can I say? I'm a quick learner.

and you're easy to figure out.

[paulk]

53. you don't know me

I don't understand, really, why you would jump into this conversation and attack someone you don't know

why would you do that?

[Hekate]

31. So your post is the one that got Deleted by the Mods? What's to respond to?

:shrug:

[paulk]

33. I don't believe my post violated the rules of this site

and I have informed the owner of my feelings on this.

[Wednesdays]

38. Huh? Who's the owner of your feelings?

:hide:

[paulk]

39. the owner of the website

[Wednesdays]

43. And the the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.

;)

[Lerkfish]

37. Um... the primaries are over.

but I remember which side you were on. Some just can't let it go, I guess.

[paulk]

41. a shallow argument

the last resort of someone with nothing to add.

[Lerkfish]

45. LOL!

well, it wasn't an argument so much as an apt observation.

[paulk]

44. I just want to correct you in that I did not call you an

"empty kneejerk cheerleader". I called your POST "empty knee jerk cheerleading".

Attacking another person's post did not used to be a rules violation.

[Lerkfish]

46. clever as a garden slug

oh yes, you skated just by the rules, then, didn't you? how cheeky.

[vaberella]

49. +1. n/t

[vaberella]

48. +1. n/t

[RoadRage]

22. Oh.

I thought this was a thread about Obama's tree trunk. I was hoping for pictures. Moving on...

:blush:

[HopeOverFear]

26. LOL

[JimWis]

28. I agree with you Peacetrain. I like the way you put it.

[old mark]

30. There are still some very RWers who insist Obama is not smart,

cannot be smart because he is black.
They will not accept any evidence to the contrary at least not yet.

He just kind of ignores them, goes ahead and does a great job.
I am very proud of him, and happy I voted for him.

mark

[happydreams]

34. "Getting your people behind you"??.........

Or getting behind the people? The pressure must be maintained to see to it that Obama delivers. He and all the politicians must be reminded regularly and forcefully that WE THE PEOPLE demand that meaningful change happens. Obama must find a way to make that happen. The true test will be to end our entanglements in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Lerkfish]

36. I agree with you, but what specifically is this about? haven't been watching TV today

[Peacetrain]

42. Actually Lerk, it started on CNN yesterday and then ended up

in a couple of threads here yesterday, about Obama not being confrontational enough, or strong enough. For some people, strength is yelling and screaming, and for others it is just getting it done. :)

[Lerkfish]

47. ah thanks. I didn't know if it was to something I"d missed

but please, carry on. Don't let the PUMAs that remain here make it uncomfortable for you to support the president.

[vaberella]

51. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

Great post.
:applause:

[applegrove]

52. I was just thinking today how great Obama's heading to the centre has been

for his presidency. When it first seemed to be his policy I was unsure of why he would be extending a hand across the isle. But with the GOP now down in popularity to a probably all time low I see Obama was right. He certainly his brilliant. And he's a good guy. So he will leave America much better off than Bush left it. That matters.