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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:23 AM
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Geez Souter, could you wait until MN was decided before making that announcement
Now the republicans will insist on taking this to your court just to ensure we don't have the 60 dems needed to possible break the filibuster
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:24 AM
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1. i don't see how his announcement would make any difference
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:25 AM
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2. The Supreme Court won't hear it.
They will uphold whatever the MN SC decides, not even hearing it.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:26 AM
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3. I think you're right.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:28 AM
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5. That sounds a lot like what I thought in late 2000.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:12 AM
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23. The makeup of the court will change- real motivation for the republican SCOTUS
Edited on Fri May-01-09 11:22 AM by AlinPA
to take the case. They are probably being pushed hard by the R leaders to take it and rule for Coleman. They need the 41 votes badly.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:15 PM
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25. They won't uphold-they just won't take the case.
That will leave the ruling in place but the term "uphold" indicates that the SC takes the case and reaffirms the lower court's ruling. That ain't gonna happen.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:27 AM
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4. Souter is staying on till his replacement is appointed
Edited on Fri May-01-09 07:28 AM by Teaser
and besides, the supreme court won't hear it.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:34 AM
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7. Anyone who believes that is a fool!
Sorry but when you have judges like Alito, Scalia and Thomas on the bench and you have that idiot's nutjob he appointed as the head justice - John Roberts......I will believe the SCOTUS is not getting involved AFTER Franken has been seated.

You don't think the RNC goons right now are working one if not all 4 of those nutjobs on the court?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 09:01 AM
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15. we'll see.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:29 AM
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6. He's retiring this summer. We can hope Franken is
in by June if the SC and Pawlenty do the right thing. Even many rethugs are acknowledging Franken won.

Too bad this is no longer about representation of the people in MN. I'd be pissed if I lived there; I wonder when the rethugs will realize they're not doing anything to inspire confidence in their party by their pigheadedness and stonewalling.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:48 AM
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13. Here's the sticking point:
Assuming that that asshat Pawlenty will do the right thing.

He wouldn't know what 'the right thing' is if it bit him in the butt.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 09:11 AM
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16. Maybe, but he also has political ambitions. At some point,
especially after hearing other rethugs weigh in, he could admit reality. The people of MN want this settled. I don't think it'd be in his best interests to prolong this. (And yes, I realize doing the right thing hasn't stopped him from doing the wrong thing so far)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5568235&mesg_id=5568235

GOP Leaders Publicly Divided Over Whether To Concede Franken Victory

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:19 PM
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27. We know if it were a Dem in coleman's
place he or she would have conceded by now for the betterment of Minnesota and their country.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:35 AM
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8. I think he already waited 8 years for someone decent to take office - he waited long enough
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:53 AM
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10. I think so too. He might still be hanging on if McCain had won.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:17 AM
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11. Most SC Justices will wait until they are at least 65 before retiring.
Otherwise, they won't receive the retirement benefits.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:35 AM
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9. Coleman will never see Certiorari granted by the SCOTUS. n/t
Edited on Fri May-01-09 07:36 AM by WeDidIt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:25 AM
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12. So you're saying you trust Alito, Scalia, THomas and Roberts
I wouldn't - not as far as I could pick up those assholes and throw them
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:56 AM
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14. Nope, no way they grant certiorari
It's a state matter and will remain with the state. It'll go to conference and never be taken up.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 09:12 AM
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17. Then you trust them - shame on you
Bush V. Gore was a state issue too you know
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 10:09 AM
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19. Completely different circumstances
No way do they even hear the case.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 10:33 AM
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21. I would much rather be wrong and have you say "I told you so"
but until that moment happens I won't believe a thing. The SCOTUS is still a safe place for republicans. You just need one to put it on the agenda and there are too many that still do the bidding of the Bush Regime and Karl Rove.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 10:57 AM
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22. Only Alito could grant certiorari by himself
If Coleman appeals, ii goes to Alito who will have one of three choices. He either accepts, declines, or takes it to conference. I would suggest he would decline. He's not going to appear partisan.

IT would enxt go to any Justice of Coleman's choice should he choose to continue (and I suspect he would unlest the MN SC compels Pawlenty to issue the certificate after their ruling).

Historically, the second justice NEVER accepts and ALWAYS refers it to conference where at least four justices must agree to hear it.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:20 AM
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24. If Coleman loses in the MN SC, with the seat so crucial to the R's now, I don't
see any way that Coleman won't go to the SCOTUS. Further, given the importance to the SC of that seat (their makeup could be affected) no way they will pass up the chance to seat someone of their party.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 09:21 AM
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18. No Way Should There Be Confirmation Hearings Until We Have Full Representation In The Senate
No effin' way, period.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 10:12 AM
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20. Souter waited as long as he could. It was becoming obvious. He didn't hire interns.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:16 PM
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26. I'll be eternally grateful he waited out Bush.
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