"No attacks since 9-11" ARRRGGGHH! Will it ever DIE?!?!?!

[mw]

It's back again. Because we tortured, we "prevented another attack for 7 years".

IT'S A NON-ACCOMPLISHMENT, for God's sake!

EVERY President can say this. Clinton prevented "another attack" on the US after the first WTC attack--also "7 years".

Why don't liberals PUT A NAIL in this "no second attack" nonsense by Bush/Republicans??

(BTW: Clinton and all other presidents before him kept America SAFER than Bush....WITHOUT torture.)

[ShortnFiery]

1. Tell them that you can't prove a negative ... + ask why Bush/Cheney ignored the PDB 6 Aug 01

entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US?"

[LSparkle]

12. Ed Schultz did a good segment on this a few days ago ...

He went after Darth Cheney saying, "Hey, Dick -- you were
IN those intelligence meetings, you got those daily briefs,
like the one on August 6. You had people like Richard
Clarke wanting to meet on the terrorist threat, but YOU
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!" They shouldn't be able to get away
with "it was so early in our tenure so we can't be blamed"
bullshit -- they had briefings from the Clinton people and
ongoing intelligence for 9 MONTHS and yet couldn't scramble
jets to intercept 4 HIJACKED AIRLINERS? This should be
NAILED TO THEM at every opportunity.

[NJmaverick]

2. Are they also giving Obama credit for his first 3 months?

[RT Atlanta]

3. what about the anthrax attacks?

Those attacks always get flushed down the toilet

[Dragonfli]

6. Those have been concluded to have been against Democrats so no murkins were threatened

only soulless commie fascists. Prolly some hero trying to save the nation from satan.

[DesertFlower]

4. republicans are soooo desperate.

hannity is still ranting about rev. wright and bill ayers.

[BattyDem]

5. "No attacks since 9-11" ... so what? 9-11 wasn't enough?

They act like it's a huge accomplishment - "we've kept you safe since 9-11" - but they completely ignore the fact that 9-11 happened on their watch and they DIDN'T keep us safe! "We allowed the worst terrorist attack on American soil ever, but we kept you safe after that." Thanks ... I'm sure the families of the 3000 victims are very impressed! :eyes:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

33. EXACTLY!!!!

I'd K & R your response if I could but I've been feeling the same exact way for the longest of time and I am simply baffled as to why NOBODY AFAIK out on the airwaves or in Congress has ever mentioned this. I would think that this would STFU anybody repeating this completely idiotic meme that COMPLETELY ignores the following facts:

1.) 9/11 DID happen
2.) +/-3,000 people died directly or indirectly as a result of the attacks
3.) George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were President and Vice-President, respectively, of our country at that time.
4.) The Bush (mis-)administration received briefings from outgoing Clinton officials about terrorism, particularly in regards to Al-Queda.
5.) Intelligence agencies, Richard Clarke, George Tenet, et. al were reporting increased concerns about Al-Queda attacking inside the US and prepared and submitted a PDB entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US" detailing concerns about Al Queda targeting/hijacking airlines.
6.) There were apparently no reported and/or documented efforts by the Bush (mis-)administration to respond to the PDB other than (as reported by Ron Suskind) assuring the CIA that they "covered their asses".
7.) Bush sat in the classroom for 7 minutes doing..........???????? before leaving to address the unfolding situation on 9/11/01.

Of course, I'm afraid that repeating the aforementioned meme is actually SUPPOSED to make the rest of us completely forget/ignore the above facts.

[MurrayDelph]

36. The Titanic only sunk once

Custer only fought at Little Big Horn once
The Exxon Valdez only went aground the one time

The point being, if you screw up bad-enough the first time, you don't get credit for not screwing up again!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

37. Right

And, as others have pointed out, we DID, in fact, have another attack following 9/11, specifically the Anthrax attacks- that appear to have been aimed at (Democratic) politicians among others- which claimed about a dozen (?) lives. I know that Bushco, after seven years, claimed to have found the guy responsible but there apparently were still a lot of doubts and unanswered questions about their findings.
And, although not technically an "attack" against us "on our soil", Bush sent 4,000+ of our troops/military personnel to their deaths in Iraq for.......................????? We still don't know for sure and may never, unfortunately, but it couldn't have been for anything good or worthwhile for anybody, most of all the Iraqis.
What about Katrina? It was an environmental disaster that claimed a lot of lives, some of whom could have been saved even though he nor anybody else certainly could not have prevented it. He could have, of course, done more to prepare/respond to it and his (mis-)administration's mismanagement of FEMA certainly contributed to at least some of the deaths.
Geez, that was kind of a "pattern" during his (mis-)administration, wasn't it? So, going to the tally board, we lost at least 7,000+ people during his (mis-) administration due to Bush's lack of concern/inattention to possible terrorist threats to our country, sheer recklessness in invading/occupying another country, and a disastrous lack of preparedness/responsiveness to natural disasters.

So, yay!!! No more terrorist attacks "on American soil!" Ummm......sure....whatever. :eyes:

[Trajan]

7. I like to point out ...

There was a HUGE attack on 9-11 that Bush/Cheney failed to prevent ...

It is THEIR badge of dishonor .... THEIR shame ....

There is no evidence whatsoever that these violent interrogations did anything to prevent events that might have been prevented with other, less vicious tactics ....

it is just more rhetorical bullshit that somehow lingers in the body politic ....

The fact of 9-11 is enough to condemn the presidency of George W. Bush and his sidekick, Dick ...

[lunatica]

8. Say, "Yeah and the worst attack to ever happen to us was under Bush too"

[Politicalboi]

15. Their response is

Clinton gutted the military, and Clinton also missed getting Osama bin Laden. I'm waiting for a real investigation of 9/11 so they can all eat crow because Bush/Cheney did 9/11. If the detainees ever get to testify about their guilt on 9/11 the evidence won't be there that the detainees had any part in it. We need real evidence like phone records, eyewitnesses, real video of that day including another angle of the Pentagon. The detainees should get the same kind of trial we would get and want. They should have defense attorneys that can look at ALL of the evidence.

[NYC_SKP]

9. No attacks since Jan 20, 2009.

I feel your frustration.

[dbonds]

10. Do they not remember the anthrax attacks?

[life_long_dem]

11. * and crashcart didn't keep people safe from the Beltway sniper:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

The Beltway sniper attacks took place during three weeks in October 2002 in Washington, D.C. (the target), Maryland, and Virginia. Eleven people were killed and three others critically injured in various locations throughout the Washington Metropolitan Area and along Interstate 95 in Virginia. It was widely speculated that a single sniper was using the Capital Beltway for travel, possibly in a white van or truck. It was later learned that the rampage was perpetrated by one man, John Allen Muhammad and one minor Lee Boyd Malvo, driving a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice sedan, and had apparently begun the month before with murders and robbery in Louisiana and Alabama, which had resulted in three deaths.<1>

[chaplainM]

13. No Nazi invasions of France since May, 1940. n/t

[salguine]

14. Because one of the classic Republican tactics

is to simply keep repeating the your point over and over and over, as loudly and repetitively as you can, no matter how absurd insane or ridiculous it is.

And why do they keep using this tactic? Because it usually works.

[Hansel]

34. And why do they keep using this tactic?

Because no one counters it. Democratic pundits and leaders have sat silent time after time while Republicans spout this absurd statement. Not one has ever pointed out, as the OP has, that Clinton also kept the country safe for 7 years, put the bad guys in prison and actually foiled verifiable subsequent plots. All while the Republicans made his life hell on earth. And then Bush ignored all warnings and allowed the worst attack on the U.S. mainland in modern history.

The Democrats need to learn how to counter Republican talking points immediately and every single time they are uttered. They also need to pick up on the talking point for the day and start slamming the "media" for using or repeating them. They are fairly easy to pick up on after the 1st hour or so of daily cable programming.

[lxlxlxl]

16. Madrid, London, Mumbai, Islamabad, Bagdhad, Morocco...

Its not only a non-accomplishment, but if Cheney and Bush had stopped another attack here, but provoked attacks in the REST OF THE WORLD as a result...then can they really defend their 'success'?

[BR_Parkway]

17. There have been plenty of terror attacks since 9-11

Ask the family of any LGBT who's been killed or attacked by groups of people simply because of their orientation

Ask the Jewish students who've had their buildings defaced with slurs and propoganda

Ask the African American and Latino families who've talked down to, spit upon, incarcerated, deported or attacked - simply because of the color of their skin.

All of these groups of people have witnessed or been involved with 'terror' attacks weekly, every week since 9-11 - just as they were before.

Terrorism is, most simply, policy intended to intimidate or cause terror.<1> It is more commonly understood as an act which (1) is intended to create fear (terror), (2) is perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a materialistic goal or a lone attack), and (3) deliberately targets (or disregards the safety of) non-combatants.

Terrorism has been practiced by a broad array of political organizations for furthering their objectives. It has been practiced by both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic groups, religious groups, revolutionaries, and ruling governments.<7>

All too often, we forget and allow the GOP and their lapdogs in the media to frame "terrorists" as those scary brown people from somewhere else. But today, just like yesterday and the day before that - there are plenty of attacks in this country designed to put terror into the hearts of other members of their community. And that is the fight we constantly have to fight until the battles are done.

[moondust]

18. Ask them to prove

that anything Bush/Cheney did over the past 8 years had anything to do with it.

It is the terrorists who decide when and where they are going to make a move. To wit, between the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and 9/11/01 a period of, let's see, EIGHT years elapsed. Should we thank Bush/Cheney for that, too?

[WinkyDink]

19. Why did Bush SIT STOCK STILL after hearing, "America is under attack"??? ASK THAT.

[JuniperLea]

20. It was none of his doing...

Bush broke the world... financially, academically, militarily, and diplomatically.

That we weren't attacked during his watch FOR A SECOND TIME is nothing short of a miracle... and W doesn't do miracles... and this has nothing to do with anything he did or didn't do.

[cwcwmack]

21. well...

it's not that simple.

Because WHEN the next attack happens... and that could be soon or in the distant future and WHOEVER the POTUS is, he/she will be HAMMERED HARD.

We all appreciate the fact that we weren't attacked after 9-11... if Gore were teh POTUS we'd be praising him for his "keeping us safe" for 7 years...

Problem is, to achieve this end, the means were...

well you all know.

[AtomicKitten]

22. That's because there was no accountability for 9/11.

The Bush Admin epic incompetence was simply accepted and the wingnuts pretend his term started 9/12/01.

[greyl]

29. "the wingnuts pretend his term started 9/12/01" - Yep. nt

[AllentownJake]

23. There were plenty of attacks on American Citizens since 9-11

For one, last time I checked the 5000 Americans who died in Iraq were American citizens (mostly some non-citizens do serve).

I believe this economic attack we are under by the wealthy has actually cost more lives, caused more hardship, and caused more misery on my fellow countrymen than Osama could ever dream of :shrug:

[Raine]

24. Too bad they didn't listen to Clinton Admin's warning then they could

claim that there wasn't one from 1-20-01 would've been a perfect record but for that pesky 9-11. :eyes:

[rustydog]

25. DC Sniper was not a terrorist attack?

So now the GOP; Gonads On Pussies (of course totally useless) can claim what is or is not a terrorist attack?

[rustydog]

26. One-more-time! The DC Sniper doesn't count ?

Oct 21, 2008 ... D.C. Sniper: 23 Days of Fear (AKA 'Sniper: 23 Days of Fear in Washington D.C.')

Any torture apologist who says we succeeded in stopping attacks snce 9-11 are apologetic GOP liars. STFU!

[Skip Intro]

27. It's also a fucking lie. Several people died from the anthrax attacks. After 9*11. bush never found

those perps either.

[saltpoint]

28. Over the exact time period there have also been no Yeti sightings in

Cadiz, Indiana.

A coincidence? I think not.

[rpannier]

30. I just tell them the following

1. After the World Trade Center Bombings the only attacks on US Soil were by white-male, right-wingers protesting against the US becoming a Socialist nation.

2. We sent hundreds of thousands of US men and women over to Iraq for them to shoot at. Why would they bother to fly over here, when they can car-pool from the Afghan-Pakistan borders over to Iraq and shoot Americans there.
It's not like these guys are concerned about 'frequent-flyer miles'

[rasputin1952]

31. Since WWII, the Japanese have not attacked Pearl Harbor...

The Germans have not invaded Poland, the Italians have left Ethiopia alone...and amzingly, since the Great Wall of China was put up, the Mongols have left China alone!

Next we shall hear that since the Lunar Landings, aliens have been kept at bay by our technological advantage...:D

[SKKY]

32. No terrorist attacks on US soil, that's true. But the last time I checked, Spain, England...

...Turkey, Indonesia, Morocco, and Israel are our allies. Do they not count? That seems like a very, very short-sighted assessment of the success of our terrorism policy.

[lame54]

35. They haven't needed a 2nd attack...

We've been crumbling since the first one