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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:44 PM
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A "Great Nation" : Andrew Sullivan nails Peggy Noonan's rank hypocrisy.
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 08:46 PM by jefferson_dem
Peggy Noonan And A "Great Nation"

"The Democrats had long labeled the impeachment debate a distraction from the urgent business of a great nation. But the Republicans argued that the pursuit of justice is the business of a great nation. In winning this point, they caught the falling flag, producing a triumph for the rule of law, a reassertion of the belief that no man is above it, and a rebuke for an arrogance that had grown imperial," - Peggy Noonan, December 21. 1998.

"It’s hard for me to look at a great nation issuing these documents and sending them out to the world and thinking, ‘Oh, much good will come of that.’ Sometimes in life you want to keep walking… Some of life has to be mysterious." - Peggy Noonan, April 19, 2009.

Remember also that the issue with Clinton was perjury in a civil suit. That required impeachment. But war crimes?

Faster, Peggy, faster.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/then-and-now-1.html


By the way, Andrew Sullivan has been great on the torture stuff, as he's been on just about everything for the past year. His blogger creds are rivaled only by Josh Marshall, in my opinion.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:46 PM
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1. He's very strong on some stuff, very weak on other stuff. He's still a must-read, however.
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 08:47 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: And the torture stuff is an example of stuff that he's very strong on.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:37 AM
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9. *nods*
Sullivan pisses me off sometimes. However, he isn't intellectually dishonest, and I figure if we went out for beers, I probably wouldn't want to deck him by the time the night was over. Which, if you know me, is not insigificant.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:48 PM
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2. the NeoCons are not known for the integrity of their belief
Hypocrisy is just another way to make a partisan political point
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:52 PM
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3. I look forward to reading anything Andrew Sullivan
has a take on and it wasn't always that way..I hated him during the bush-Gore campaign.

Now for "A Great Nation"..throw those words back in peggy's face and any other republicon who tries to get in our way.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:25 PM
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4. The right wing followers are not supposed to notice these things.
And I guess the don't because they would then have to change...and we can't have that now can we.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 12:28 AM
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5. "Change" is the slippery slope to evolution.
God Forbids.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:23 AM
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6. Unless Obama Starts Leading, We Remain Once-Great n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:16 AM
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7. Like, where have you been?
n/t
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:34 AM
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8. Like, right here watching...
...as CIA torturers are being http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j4Ejd9oAFE1osxxYu3b7f9cI_7eQD97KRMP00">immunized prior to any investigation, bushcheney secrecy claims are being advanced in courts, and "Former Enemy Combatant" t-shirts are being passed out instead of substantively DOING some damn thing.

Just like I've been here watching http://talkingimpeachment.com/blog/Hall-of-Shame-Inductee----Barak-Obama.html">his years of impeachophobia.

Where I've been is outside the euphemedia/beltway bubble.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:55 AM
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10. "Some of life has to be mysterious."
Sexy perfume has to be mysterious. Secret Santas should be mysterious.

Peggy has stopped making sense.
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