Why does Gallup have Obama's approval falling while it has almost every other indicator up?

[jenmito]

He's down to 60% (and up to 31% disapproval) while consumer confidence, mood, spending, etc. are up: http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx I bet it has something to do with the "liberal" media constantly talking about his "teleprompter as a crutch" BS, his "over-exposure," "punch-drunk laughter," etc. How else can you explain his numbers going down after all his appearances in which he did well?

[BlooInBloo]

1. www.fivethirtyeight.com .

EDIT: Typo in URL.

[jenmito]

5. I can't tell what you want me to look at on the site.

Is there a poll I don't see?

[LynnTheDem]

2. I agree; definitely the "LIBERAL MEDIA" constantly crucifying him over such serious

never-before-seen/done things such as using a *gasp* TELEPROMPTER!!1!

[jenmito]

6. It's maddening how they can do that yet still be accused of worshipping him.

:eyes:

[LynnTheDem]

15. "We know where they are"... "There is no doubt" ..."liberal media"...

There is no liberal media, and the FACTS bear this out as FACT.


But the rightwingnuttery will spew the "liberal media" mantra 24/7 until kingdom come. It's what they do.


"The Big Lie"; repeat often.

[jenmito]

18. Exactly...

what I don't get is how so many people believe the media IS liberal.

[LynnTheDem]

29. The majority of Fox "News" viewers still think we found wmd in Iraq.

The majority of Fox "News" viewers still think Iraq was involved in the 911 attacks.

Hmmm...seems to be a pattern emerging.

[firedupdem]

3. This has been the focus since his presidency began. I'm not

surprised at all. However, I just watched the video of the interview with CBS, and I'm still 100% in this presidents corner.

[jenmito]

8. Yeah...

but I would've hoped that his many appearances, going OVER the heads of the media, would increase his approval ratings. I bet more people are just listening to the "liberal" media's summaries of his appearances rather than watching him themselves.

[firedupdem]

10. I think thats what is happening. If they listen for themselves they

will see the guy is trying to do the right thing and isn't wavering from his campaign promises.

[jenmito]

12. I think so, too...

I hope people start WATCHING him for themselves.

[billyoc]

4. Almost all Presidents have this post-honeymoon dip in approval ratings.

I wouldn't worry about it. :hi:

[jenmito]

9. Thanks for that...

I just hope Obama's line will go up again. :)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

7. Probably normal variance. Those polls are even less precise than election polling

The choice between Obama and McCain is stark and polarizing but tracking polls bounced around plenty... often in counter-intuitive ways.

The choice between approve and disapprove is a lot slipperier than a choice between two candidates.

[jenmito]

11. Well, I've been watching Gallup's daily tracking poll every day

since his "media blitz" and he got no bounce like he did before. I'm afraid the media narrative is getting to people.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

13. Publicity probably does have diminishing returns

I don't think high-exposure is a negative (Clinton was always everywhere and it worked okay) but it does dilute the power of each individual statement or appearance.

[jenmito]

16. Well, now he's going overseas...

I hope people here see him in a different (new) light and approve of how he deals with other countries.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Well, put it this way......

I'm sure this upcoming cover at the supermarkets won't help pass his budget!




our media is nothing but a piece of shit!

Thank God he is going out of the country for nearly a week.
This may help shut this media up about the trivial bullshit
that they fabricate on a daily basis.

[jenmito]

17. Yeah, I saw that...

as will millions and millions of other Americans. I just wrote the same thing about him going overseas. The media is a JOKE! :mad:

[Barack_America]

19. Eh, still looks like a straight line to me.

I'm not going to get too worried about the difference between 60% and 62% in a daily tracking poll.

[OHdem10]

20. Gallop is weighted( more GOP to DEM participants. Could this

have some effect.

[jenmito]

22. It depends if he changes the number of Rs vs. Ds from day to day.

And who knows-he very well might.

[CaliLiberal]

21. I don't see why approval ratings are important this soon

just a waste of time

[jenmito]

23. They give the media excuses to talk about how much he's "slipping."

Wait 'til he falls below 60% in this poll. Could be tomorrow and the media will be all over it.

[zalinda]

24. It just may be that people have figured out

that what Obama supporters told them Obama stood for, and what Obama actually stands for are two different things.

zalinda

[jenmito]

25. You think? When you talk about "Obama supporters," it sounds like you're

not including yourself. :eyes: Obama is carrying out his promises. What did Obama say in his interviews/town halls/etc. this week that would make people "figure out" he's not who they thought he was?

[stillcool]

26. I can see why...

you are not a supporter of the President. Obviously someone 'told you'.

[jenmito]

27. Upon a search of your posts, I have figured YOU out-you NEVER supported Obama and

you still don't, meaning you shouldn't be here. As a matter of fact, you didn't seem to see a difference between Obama and MCCAIN!:


"of all replies said anything about Obama's platform. Apparently people either can't or won't state his stand on certain issues, or is it that they are afraid to state them in case he changes his mind. I don't get it, as an Edwards supporter I could quote his stance on issues and explain them easily to anyone. It seems that Obama questioners get sent to Obama's website. Why? They should be talking about his stand on issues like crazy to distance him from McCain, but I don't see any of that. All I see is McCain bashing. Where's the meat? Should we vote for Obama just because the repubs are bad? Because he's a dem? Because he's black?

What is he going to do? I don't see anyone telling the world what he's going to do. How he's going to change things. Yeah, he's not Bush, but neither is McCain. Why should people vote for Obama? It is a valid question and one that I'm sure volunteers are asked all the time. If no one will explain what Obama stands for so the average working class citizen can understand it, why should he vote for Obama? To be honest, I still don't know what he stands for, it keeps changing. All I get by reading DU, is that McCain is bad and Obama is not McCain. Wow, there's a campaign slogan for you.

zalinda"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6602023#6602327

[zalinda]

30. Nope, I didn't like him then and don't much like him now

I had a big problem with his lying to the people of Illinois to get elected to the US Senate. In case you didn't hear about it, he said he would not run for President in his first term. Probably before the last US Senate seat vote was counted, he already had his war chest going and his Presidential campaign team hired. Now, with all the campaign lies that have existed over the centuries, the one lie that can be easily avoided is, "I promise you, I will not run for President in my first term." Hillary told the people of New York the same exact thing, and she kept her promise. Just because of that one thing, she earned more respect from me than Obama.

I didn't like Obama or Hillary, neither of them supports real Democratic values. You know, the ones that spawned civil rights, education rights, peace, unions, medical care for the poor, and the Constitution, among other things. Is Obama better than McCain, slightly. But, the same people Obama has chosen to "fix" this economic mess, would have probably been McCain's picks too. So much for "change".

Let's be real here, most people who voted for Obama, never went to his web site, never read his position papers or even saw one of his speeches, except for burbs on the news. They voted for what Obama supporters said he stood for. Oh yes, I remember it well, Obama is really for single payer but he can't get elected on that so he moved to the right. Oh, Obama is really a liberal/progressive, but he can't have people know it or he won't get elected, so he moved to the right. Obama is for peace, he's the only one who spoke out against the war. Obama was a community organizer so he really knows what it's like to be poor, and will help the working poor. How about, Obama got most of his campaign money from individuals sending in $20 dollar donations. Yes, those things and more were said about Obama during the primaries, and after he was selected. I don't know how many times I heard on the street, that Obama is going to fix this, and Obama is going to fix that. It was Obama supporters that told these poor people that their life was going to get better if only Obama was elected. This wasn't a Presidential election, it was an American Idol or football contest. Or, they jumped on the band wagon to vote for Obama so they could tell their grandchildren that they voted for the first black President. There were reports all over the country that people came in and ONLY voted for Obama. They didn't even bother to vote down ticket. Is that an election to make things better or a popularity contest.

I used to think that dem after a name was a big deal, I don't any more. If you want to look back at my posts, look at what I said about Pelosi and Reid. I celebrated when they were chosen. I advised waiting and that it would take time for them to settle into their jobs and take on the repubs.......well, I'm still waiting, but I'm no longer duped into thinking that it will change. So far the only thing Obama has shown me is that he will do just enough to keep the teeming masses from rising up and no more. So far, it's the people with the most money who has gotten his ear and his attention, they will get the money, they will still be able to outsource jobs and receive government money, war contractors are still being hired, health care is still far away for almost half of Americans and the Bush people are still free to come and go as they please.

Obama had an opportunity like no other President before him. He was overwhelmingly elected to clean up after a President that was a dismal failure. He should have been able to rally all the troops behind him, but he hasn't. He didn't show he was much of a leader before he was elected, and he's not leading now. People are dying, losing their homes and families and he is telling them to wait. Sorry, but we've been hanging on by our fingertips for the last 8 years, hoping that someone would come along and help us. That is not happening with Obama. And for those of your who are cheer-leading him, how many of you are unemployed or are in danger of losing your home. How many of you are trying desperately to keep your pride, and not going to the food bank, because it will brand you as a failure. How many of you have worked your entire life, then to be disregarded as nothing more than soil at the bottom of a millionaire's shoe.

I used to be proud to be a Democrat, but the Democratic party has left me.

zalinda

[creeksneakers2]

32. Nobody, outside of attacking Republicans

ever said Obama was going to be a far lefty. If Obama went radical left he'd be unpopular and wind up abandoned. There is no way in the universe single payer health care is going to pass. We don't even know where the money to pay for the health care the government is already pledged to provide is going to come from.

Only Obama's enemies claim he could have solved all our problems in 60 days.

Obama's economic team is made up of academic and former regulator types. His RW enemies complain because he doesn't have anyone at the top who ran a major corporation. If somebody has never worked in the financial industry, and has no regulatory experience, then how could he be qualified to run the nation's economy?

The Obama supporters here were very well informed. It sounds to me like you missed learning about Obama before he took office.

[zalinda]

33. No, I did learn about Obama

I studied EVERY candidate that was running in the primary. I studied his past, and he never emerged as a leader, in any position that he held. He was likable, but not someone that people looked up to. Even the Illinois house speaker GAVE him bills to put his name on so he could pad his resume to become a US Senator, that doesn't say leader to me. Obama has never impressed me.

And reading these boards and talking to people out on the street, Obama was touted as a lefty. According to some he was much more left than Hillary, because, you know, Hillary was repub lite, and, you know, DLC. There were argument after argument on how Obama really had to be careful to pose himself as a centrist, but after he was elected his true colors were going to come out. People were banned every day in these heated debates or they just left. I'm sure they'll be back someday to say, I told you so.

I knew full well who and what he was, and I didn't like him. I have not been surprised at anything he has done. But there are many people out there who were fooled, by those who wanted them to vote for Obama. Those are the ones who are coming crashing down off their hope high.

And, just for your information, I don't listen to "Obama's enemies", aka the RW. I read. I've read the backgrounds of his economic team, and I still say McCain probably would have hired the same people.

Will life be a little better under Obama? Yeah, but only for those who are able to keep their high paying jobs, never get sick, don't have children in the military and aren't in danger on losing their homes. The rest of us will have to swallow our pride and beg for food.

zalinda

[jenmito]

38. Exactly.

Thank you. :hi:

[jenmito]

37. You MUST be joking!!! YOU supported EDWARDS who's the biggest phony and liar out of EVERYBODY!

Not only did he say he was going to NOT take public financing and then decide TO take it ONLY after he wasn't able to raise as much money as he hoped, he lied about being involved with hedge funds, and CHEATED ON HIS WIFE WHO HAS CANCER! And IF he had won the nomination and then was discovered to have had cheated and had a child with the woman, he would've handed the election to McCain!!!

And Obama is keeping his promises that he campaigned on. He was always for the war in Afghanistan, never for mandatory universal healthcare, and everything else you claim he lied about.

You don't belong here. Alerted.

[jenmito]

28. I'm starting to think the reason his approval is going slightly down is because of Dems.

like the ones on this board.

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[Clio the Leo]

34. 1. It's the weekend and 2. Afghanistan

He ALWAYS either stays even or goes down over the weekend, it's ALWAYS been that way, even during the campaign. My theory is that good Democrat Obama supporters have more active social lives than those against him do and are therefore harder to talk get ahold of. :)

And we have to expect that his Afghanistan announcement caused him to drop some points with his base .... as was evidenced here.

But he has hovered around the 62-65% mark for pretty much all of his presidency. I'd hardly call it "falling."

[jenmito]

39. Well...

he has been going down or staying even ever since the day after the Jay Leno appearance. He went up the day or two after, but then kept going down after every new appearance/press conference/etc. I think it's because of the media's reporting about BS like his "need for the teleprompter" and his "punch drunk laughter" etc. I hope his ratings DO improve during this week.

[Clio the Leo]

41. Oh, wait until our fearless leader takes Europe...

.... he'll go back up some more I promise ya.

I love you Jen but quit stressing so much over the polls! lol

Until the GOP can come up with something better than....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCW76B6krlw

Or....
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/966893.html

Then it wont matter if Barack is in the low 40s. :)

[jenmito]

44. Thanks, Clio...

for telling me to chill out, for slapping me back into reality. :) You're right. :hi:

[ArchieStone1]

40. That wasn't the case last weekend

65% in the poll conducted Thursday 19 to Saturday 21st, compared to 64%, 62% and 62% in the three previous polls: http://pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm#Gallup

So the answer may lie somewhere else other than weekend trends.

[Clio the Leo]

42. That was because of Leno.....

.... trust me, every other time he goes down or stays flat.

Part of me thinks they timed Leno on a Thursday for that very reason .... the other part of me says he was so busy reading economic briefings he didn't have time to care.

[ArchieStone1]

35. It's not the end of the world

This isn't even an all-time low for Obama. He was at 59% in gallup one day. He is doing great and Bush wished he could have been that high.

[AlinPA]

36. The media controls everything in politics.

[Jennicut]

43. Per Gallup, liberals and moderates are actually bringing his budget #'s down slightly

he new Gallup Poll results come from a one-night poll conducted March 25, 2009 -- the same day Obama met with Democrats in Congress to shore up support for his $3.55 trillion budget for fiscal 2010 and for his 10-year plan, and the day after his nationally televised press conference, which focused to a large degree on his budget plan. Republicans and some Democrats in Congress are seeking to reduce the overall size of the budget request, voicing concerns about the growing national deficit and debt that future generations will have to repay.

The emerging debate in Washington, however, doesn't appear to be significantly affecting Americans' views on the issue. Examining views by party and ideology, more than 6 in 10 Republicans remain negative about the budget while more than 6 in 10 Democrats remain positive about it. Interestingly, only the views of moderates and liberals have shifted to a noteworthy degree -- with both groups becoming somewhat less positive over the past month.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/117139/Amid-Budget-Battle-Americans-Views-Hold-Steady.aspx

I really don't get the slight shift in #'s....his budget should be well liked by at least liberals.

[jenmito]

45. Wow...

thanks for the numbers. I was afraid of that. And that fear just came from the posts I saw HERE. I hope/bet his numbers will improve while overseas.

[Jennicut]

46. People are easily manipulated. His budget is a liberal one.

Some people cut off their nose to spite their face.

[jenmito]

47. Yup...

that's sadly obvious. Especially here on the DU.