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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:42 AM Original message |
Poll question: Who is a better communicator? Reagan or Obama |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ronnie communicated well but got lost and doddering at the end |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. I was just going to say.. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thsi poll is a Freeper Trap |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It is. |
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Earth Bound Misfit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. LOL n/t |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. looks like a landslide :) |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. I assume you mean Sasha Obama. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. Reagan was a slick, polished, professional orator |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
7. Reagan was an actor. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. it's apples and oranges. reagan had tv... obama has tv, internet.... |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. Obama, without a doubt! |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Exactly. Reagan was the king of the big screen tough guy one-liners |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
10. I hate to say it, but I was the asshole here... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. There are two, so far--and I'm not one of 'em. Even though I see your points. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. You've got to be kidding. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
63. Oh, gee--I take it you have a different opinion, then. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. The difference is that the Media were sucking Reagan's you know what.... |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. They did pretty much gush over him like they did George W Bush |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
151. And they all forgot about this |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
146. No, it's easier to sell a bad idea than a good one |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. IMHO, it's harder to make a bad idea sound good |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. i said it's easier to *sell* a bad idea than a good one |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. But we're talking about communication here. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. Both are/were good talkers. |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
12. Reagan was an actor... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
13. OMG! Two for The Gipper?!? Too funny! n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
14. I think Bill Clinton beats them both. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I agree. And that isn't a slam on Obama |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Too bad Bubba, like Elliott Spitzer can't control his hormones. I don't trust either man albeit |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. nor could Thomas Jefferson, FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK and I'm sure I'm missing a few |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Awe, rationalization of immoral behavior for men who should know better PRESENT DAY. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. so if it happened before the 1990s, it's bad. Before that, not so much? LOL! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. You know my point. Your hero has had several opportunities to "dial it down" - that's his achilles |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. uh, so did all the others. LOL! and your attempt to make it alright for them is hysterical |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. No, I didn't say it was alright for them. However, the times were different. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. The only thing different in Clinton's time was the GOP smear machine.. which YOU... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 04:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Yes, we forced Bill Clinton to have all those extramarital affairs. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 05:07 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. no, you're cheerleading his investigation and applauding FDR'S/JFK's/MLK's cleverness.. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 05:23 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. You just can't recognize that your hero was rash and even after caught before he was elected |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. you just can't resist hypocritical attacks on Bill Clinton |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 06:54 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Hello? Clinton has a "control" problem, it's not the behavior itself but the fact that it's ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Hello? Jefferson/FDR/JFK/RFK/MLK had control problems. The only difference is... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:14 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. You're hopeless. I've explained myself ... but you're not processing two points: COMPULSIVE |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. hah, you just get frustrated when your extreme unreasonable Clinton hatred is exposed |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Yes, your genius prevails. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. and your obsessiveness crashes and burns. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Right. We all are in awe of your humble nature ... just like your hero. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. and we are all perplexed by your irrational Clinton hatred. Just like... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Gawd, you really are driven to "win." Holy shit! Not everyone loved Clinton - deal with it! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Gawd! You really are driven to divert the point of this discussion. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. You employ FOX like tactics and then call me a "right winger." Kudos for spin. n/t. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. How is your line of attack on Clinton different than the radical conservatives' line of attack? |
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demhistorian (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. a very good question indeed. I see no difference. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #94 |
103. she won't answer. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 05:52 AM Response to Reply #103 |
156. I have that one |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Tell ya what? If Bill Clinton does not get into any more "fixes" due to infidelity during HRCs ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. avoiding the question? Why, yes... yes you are. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. No, if such behavior was uncovered by The Press of their day, I believe those men would have changed |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. So you're using rightwing lines of attacks on Clinton, justifying indescretions of past leaders... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. No, as any somewhat thoughtful human being, I'm forming perspectives on Bill Clinton's Character. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. ... and using right wing lines of attack to do it, while rationalizing the same behavior in others. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. again, you're hopeless. Being human and drawing on social norms and mores is right-wing |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. again, you're avoiding the question. How is your line of attack different than the right wing's? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. again, you will not accept that Bill Clinton was a security risk as President. Bush was MUCH WORSE, |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. that's ALSO a right wing line of attack. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Bullshit! It's an assessment that you don't like. Your attack line is right-wing. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Right wing author Buzz Patterson wrote a whole book on your line of reasoning |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #112 |
120. TODAY, you can lose your security clearance IF ADULTERY can be proven. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #120 |
123. which is what Buzz Patterson, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. contend |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #92 |
102. LOL! and you know they would have changed, how? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. she has a crystal ball |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. You're so blinded adoration of *all things Clinton* that you refuse to admit that he has flaws. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Explain how your line of attack is different than the right wing's? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Believe it or not, we are not a totally self-actualized society. Most people can change. |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. What are you, Hillary Clinton's mother? How the hell do you even know whether |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. No, but I do know that I am a human being. I don't admire her for staying with him. |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Again, everyone's marriage is different. You have no idea what a person |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #122 |
126. Yes, but if you choose to be a Public Official, then you must consider that even your personal life |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. yet, this only seems to apply to bill clinton in your view. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Do you honestly believe that Politicians are not being blackmailed over infidelities ... |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #131 |
135. So let me get this straight. if obama were to tomorrow be found to have had an affair |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. of course not. That only applies to Bill Clinton |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. I had no idea a public official having an affair is a national security concern |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #138 |
141. If they can be blackmailed, it's a national security concern. Many of them can. |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #141 |
155. OHNOEZ. |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
96. Seriously?? You're harping on him for having an affair? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. like I keep saying, her hatred of all things Clinton forces her to take right wing positions on him. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Several Affairs. He's compulsive and not trustworthy. :( n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #100 |
106. The Kennedy's and MLK had several affairs. Jefferson fathered a child out of wedlock. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #106 |
117. But it did not COME OUT in the Press of the day. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #117 |
128. no, so again you are approving of the $40 million spent to bring Clinton's out to the press |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. No, he should have resigned before then. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #129 |
132. so if Clinton should have resigned before the press found out, so should have FDR, the Kennedys, etc |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #132 |
134. No, I'm not saying that ... what I am saying is that once the nuts in the right wing produced the |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. so you're advocating letting the "nuts in the right wing" win? |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #134 |
153. Once the "blue dress" evidence |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #100 |
110. Why are you so concerned about their marital fedelity and well-being? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Because if they are unfaithful and married, they can be BLACKMAILED. That is not good if |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. OMG! Look at how many leaders you'd erase from history. Jefferson, FDR, MLK! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Again, you fail to take into account the earlier aspects of our discussion. Did I mention ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. yeah, you think had millions been spend to expose them, they would have "changed their ways." |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #121 |
124. I think if Bill Clinton truly loved his country above himself, he would have resigned when the DNA |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Ha ha ha ha ha |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Very. n/t |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
147. A certain someone here is obviously attracted to Monica,... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. I always thought Clinton sounded like he was addressing the Men's Pancake Prayer Breakfast |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. My mileage varies. I always thought he was having a conversation with me and my family. NT |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
72. You have some interesting points |
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PRETZEL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. Hands down Obama. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
18. *snort* |
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playerhater (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
20. Reagan only spoke to a segment of Americans |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
66. I hate to tell you this, but the Limbaugh crowd feels the same way about Obama. |
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Earth Bound Misfit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
68. Wow, I was gonna welcome this person to DU, but he/she has been served a Concrete Pizza already. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 05:57 AM Response to Reply #68 |
157. Dunno--maybe it was just a sock puppet. nt |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
21. Reagan? Hell, Clinton was better than Reagan!!!! |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. Hands down..Obama |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. Obama isn't a fuckin liar |
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SPedigrees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
26. If you're talking about communication skills |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
27. Raygun was..... |
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SPedigrees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Reagan did exactly as he said. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Raygun was a LIAR!! Period, end of story. If you dont want |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. Unfair matchup, 8 years of Ronnie vs 2 months of Barack |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. I never thought Reagan was a great communicator; he always sounded |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. Reagan's communication skills were a mile wide and an inch deep. |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. I can't recall Reagan frequently giving detailed answers to reporters' questions. |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
36. Reagan's oratory skills sank like a stone after he was shot |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. i'm voting Obama for one reason |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. I was 8 when he got in, and seeing him on TV - even during the 1980 primaries - scared me. |
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a kennedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. I only remember reagan pointing to his ears indicating he couldn't |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
40. That's an easy one. FDR! :) Obama is obviously better than Reagan |
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Pharlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. Ronald Reagan? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. Reagan appealed to primarily base emotion, Obama appeals primarily to reason |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
133. Kinda huge difference |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. Reagan didn't communicate like a President should |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. Haven't heard a peep from that dead motherfucker for years now |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. I was more impressed with Obama on the campaign trail |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. History being 20/20, Reagan doesn't have a chance. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
53. Obama can convey intellectual information |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. Reagan was a script reader |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. Reagan was a holograph brought to you by the corporate media. n/t |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
58. Too early to compare the two. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
60. Obama by far, he is not or ever was an actor... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
61. No contest. Obama, hands down. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. Reagan was a good communitator but not Presidential with his communication |
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Earth Bound Misfit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
67. Can I vote for Mario Cuomo? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
158. Cuomo does the Clintonesque thing, too. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
69. Anyone who thinks Reagan was a great communicator needs to watch this... |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
70. Sure Raygun was good, he was an actor who plagerized |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
74. I'll take Obama's clear intelligent humanity any day |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
79. Reagan needed a teleprompter..n/t |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
139. I'm beginning to realize that Obama is the Democratic version of Reagan. |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
140. Obama: elegance with intelligence. Nuff said! (nt) |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
142. I rate them equally I think |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
143. As of 12:46 14 other obviously rotten brains have voted! |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. 15 @ 2:18 n/t |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
145. Ok I combined the title of this thread and the one above and saw "Who is a better womanizer". |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
150. As an actor, Reagan knew how to pull the message together in order to deliver the payoff |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
154. All this talk about the Great Communicators is mad. Everything depends on the content. |
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