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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:41 PM
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Obama team sees U.S. rebound this year, hurdles loom

Obama team sees U.S. rebound this year, hurdles loom

By John O'Callaghan John O'callaghan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Obama administration is "incredibly confident" the U.S. economy will rebound within a year, a top adviser said on Sunday, before a critical week in efforts to flesh out and sell the president's recovery agenda.

"We will be seeing signs the economy is turning around," Christina Romer, head of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, told the "Fox News Sunday" program.

On CNN's "State of the Union" show, Romer said she had "every expectation, as do private forecasters, that we will bottom out this year and actually be growing again by the end of the year."

President Barack Obama's steps to reverse a deep recession and restructure the ailing U.S. financial system have global implications as he prepares to meet leaders of major developed and developing nations at a Group of 20 summit in early April.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:45 PM
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1. And if there is no rebound somebody will have egg on their face
and lots of Republicans eager to throw more eggs. With predictions like this it it good to be conservative.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:47 PM
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2. "And if there is no rebound"
egg on someone's face is last thing anyone will be worried about.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:51 PM
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7. If there is no rebound this year--because that is wildly optimistic
and gives people unrealistic expectations. That would have dire consequences for the midterm elections in 2010, so that is something concrete to worry about.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:05 PM
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8. At a time when people are being wildly negative, such optimism may be warranted. For example
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 04:05 PM by ProSense
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:19 PM
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9. Predicting a rebound this year is politically stupid.
Hoping that one might be possible seems a wiser road to take.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:27 PM
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10. Why? Do you have proof the economy will not be on the rebound a year from now? n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 04:28 PM by ProSense
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:32 PM
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11. OK. I give up. There is no longer any reason to continue this difference of opinion.
I don't have proof that I will not win the lottery a year from now, but I strongly suspect I will not. Sorry I won't be reading anymore of your posts.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:38 PM
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12. I don't believe Romer's statement was based on wishful thinking. n/t
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:53 PM
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3. I think so
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 02:58 PM by FreakinDJ


FTSE 100 +25.92 +0.68% 3,842.85
XETRA-DAX +25.28 +0.63% 4,068.74
CAC 40 +14.15 +0.51% 2,791.14
HANG SENG -297.41 -2.26% 12,833.51
NIKKEI 225 0.00% 7,945.96

U.S. Dollar vs Euro -0.0053 -0.39% 1.3616
U.S. Dollar vs Yen +1.2600 +1.31% 0.0104
U.S. Dollar vs UK £ -0.01 -0.46% 1.44
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:53 PM
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4. I agree that it is a very good possibility, as long as our foreign policies are totally clean up!
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 02:54 PM by FrenchieCat
It may sound strange to some, but our domestic economic policies have everything to do with how we are perceived globally at this point, because to a great degree, they literally do "own" us.

So we can argue Krugman vs. Geithner adnauseum, but the bottomline is that our issues are quite serious!



The banking crisis as a foreign policy issue

If we let A.I.G. fail, said Seamus P. McMahon, a banking expert at Booz & Company, other institutions, including pension funds and American and European banks “will face their own capital and liquidity crisis, and we could have a domino effect.” A bailout of A.I.G. is really a bailout of its trading partners — which essentially constitutes the entire Western banking system.

No one wants to say it, but essentially the Fed has been bailing out European banks.

The inflation-adjusted cost of the Marshall plan has been estimated at about $115 billion in current dollars. If we end up spending $250 billion on AIG, how much of that sum will go to European financial institutions and might it someday exceed the scope of the Marshall plan? (I do not, by the way, think that central banks ought to treat foreign creditors differently.)

One attempt to formulate a bailout plan for eastern Europe just failed. This is round one in a series of longer negotiations. As the European financial crisis worsens, and Germany asks itself whether it will bail out Ireland and Hungary and maybe others, it will become increasingly clear that major foreign policy crises are afoot.

The best actual marker of the progress of the financial crisis is not stock or real estate prices, but rather how well international cooperation holds up.
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/03/the-banking-crisis-as-a-foreign-policy-issue.html





The fact that the counterparties are overseas means that out of the three options: bailout, bankruptcy, or nationalization — none are satisfactory.

A bailout means that the government makes good on the value of the securities, including the derivatives which are tied to the collapse of the U.S. economy. That means the worse things get, the more money flows out of the country. Not politically acceptable.

Letting insolvent banks go bankrupt is the option being pushed by some politicians, including John McCain. In some ways it would be the cleanest solution, allowing the bankruptcy courts and the FDIC to do the tough job of allocating the losses from the toxic securities.

The problem, though, is that they tried the bankruptcy option with Lehman, and they nearly broke the global financial system in the process. The Lehman bankruptcy backfired, creating new panic around the world. This reflects how much money many foreign investors had put into the U.S., and how many worried about losing it when Lehman went under.

Nationalization creates a political problem. Once the government buys a company, it is financially and morally resonsible for its debts. It puts the U.S. government in the position of either using taxpayer money to bailout foreign investors, or telling foreign investors, no, the richest country in the world is not going to pay its debts.

What’s the solution?
Conclusion: Sometime later this year we will have a massive global conference aimed at simultaneously resolving the banking crises in the major developed countries. The goal will be a political negotiation of the value of the toxic assets, and a clearing of the books.

If the conference succeeds, then it will be possible to fix the financial system relatively easily. But if it fails, then things get dicey.

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/economicsunbound/archives/2009/03/a_simple_guide.html?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_news+++analysis


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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:18 PM
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5. Agreed it will rebound this year - but not for those reasons
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 03:19 PM by FreakinDJ
While they are valid concerns the overwhelming reason and the REAL Work which needs to be done in Washington is to RE-Regulate the markets and actively persue and punish fraud.

Until that is accomplished - a true return of the markets won't happen

About the best bounce we've had all year was the day Madoff was sentenced
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:24 PM
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6. Really important about inter-relationship, partnerships, consequence of not paying off foreign debt.
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 03:27 PM by MarjorieG
We torpedoed the world's financial markets, and need to act responsibly where there are no great answers. Just some that may prove better.
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