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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:16 PM
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Obama says "Blame Me" so OK Barack, I blame you
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/19/aig.fallout/index.html

Thank you for offering to take the blame. I'm willing to forgive if you'll now do something to stop these mega failure morons on wall street and show that you're in charge and they are not. But frankly, they've been more effective getting what they want than you've been at getting what I want.

So what ever you do - just do it. Don't talk about it. Don't assure me that Geithner has your confidence. Walk over to the capitol building and put yourself in charge and get these financial bastards under control - no matter how much it hurts them.



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:19 PM
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1. I'm sorry, but is Barack Obama your new pet?
Silly me.....I though we had elected a President, not purchased a slave.

The President works for us to fulfill our agenda,
not to tap dance when you give him his cue. :eyes:
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:22 PM
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4. like i keep saying even though he is keeping campaighn promises
left and right, some people will never be satisfied especially PUMAs
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:40 PM
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32. Pols don't get rewards, or a pass, for keeping campaign promises - they're supposed to do that
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:26 PM
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6. you're the one who seemingly has nothing else to do but post on DU either sniping at anyone
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 01:27 PM by KittyWampus
who dares critique Obama or trying your best to pretend everything is just peachy and he's infallible.

It really seems you are projecting as far as who has Obama "as a pet".

I've personally stood up for Obama since Day One and before. But no longer.

Yes, he's been in office long enough to have forced some accountability in the Banking system and to start opening books and rooting out criminals.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:31 PM
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11. Yep...that's me, President Obama's personal protector!
and this is you!
I've personally stood up for Obama since Day One and before. But no longer.

Sorry, but it appears that I have the importance of passing our agenda to assist the American people at heart!

You seem to want to be mad. So go ahead.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:35 PM
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16. being mad is very important
how we feel is key to getting shit done, after all.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:00 PM
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20. passing an agenda and defending Obama are not one in the same
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:28 PM
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7. I'm shocked to learn that Barack does not need to tap dance at my command ...
... and yet that changes nothing about what I posted.

Got any other useless observations?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:33 PM
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15. Useless is relative.
I figured since you were giving out orders,
I'd have some fun with them....after all,
might as well get some enjoyment while the country falls apart!



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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:33 PM
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Word.
Well said.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:33 PM
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13. Word.
Well said.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:57 PM
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18. ....
:applause:
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:04 PM
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22. You Know It Is Good For Even Us Staunch Obama Supporters To Show Our......
anger both to the President himself and Congress. It actually gives the President more reason to demand change - because he can channel our anger into change - and use us to help him leverage over the Repugs and Congress in general. This is why he is using his position to do the town hall meetings, Ed Schultz and Jay Leno. He's able to reach the people directly - and use their comments and feelings to force, embarrass and strongarm the change we need to right this country.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:16 PM
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24. since he's taken blame, which is what real leaders do when minions
fuck it, it is in his best interests to cauterize this thing. I want him to succeed and that means shutting down the fuckers on the right over this as fast as possible.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:24 PM
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26. Right! So why doesn't he just do it -
Can he not make his priorities the government's priorities? His party runs 2 of the 3 branches of government.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:46 PM
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33. I don't know. I just will wish and hope for him. I believe he has weak
links in some places and dems in the congress don't have a lot of spine. Its hard to be the spine for so many people.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 03:12 PM
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34. Go FrenchieCat!
It seems to me that if we gave Obama our vote, we can give him the benefitof a doubt for a while, give him time to work out one of the most horrendous economic messes we have ever experienced in this country.

Barack Obama has said he is willing to take responsibility. He cannot, however, be omniscient in every nook and cranny of malfeasance that went on over the past 8 years. Bits and pieces are now coming out and he is dealing with them as they come. He hasn't gotten the entire picture yet; no one does. But he IS dealing with it and not shirking his duties.

Some of the raging pomposity on this board often stuns me...
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:19 PM
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2. Yep, talk is cheap! I want to see some action on
regulation and criminal charges for stealing taxpayer dollars.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:21 PM
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3. blame Bush:




but, really, blame no one

b/c if anyone has bothered to read the newspapers for the past year, they'd know that it's
impossible NOT To bail out AIG and the retention bonuses, as ghastly as they are, were part of
the legal payment contract....

and once we start breaking legal contracts, we lose the rule of law

we become russia, where there is still no honoring of legal contracts
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:31 PM
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10. Barack has specifically requested the blame - and he was right to do so.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:22 PM
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5. So.. you support the plan to tax the bonuses to get the money back?
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:33 PM
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14. I would like to see them do SOMETHING rather than just rubber stamp ...
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 01:33 PM by GOTV
every request from wall street.

I would like them to do SOMETHING that wall street would rather them not do.

I'll let them decide what it is.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:30 PM
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8. Nah... they already know this back fired on them.
"But frankly, they've been more effective getting what they want than you've been at getting what I want."

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:31 PM
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9. first of all, i'd like to point our that this is an article from the CNN website
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 01:31 PM by noiretextatique
so those who are attacking the OP are off-base.
second, the most rational person quoted in the article said this:

"But watching some of the president's chief economic advisers publicly throw up their hands in helplessness, suggesting the government could feed the monster but couldn't control it, was a reminder of what happens when presidential surrogates speak without proper media training, a unified message and a clear sense of why getting their message right on this really matters," Westen wrote in a commentary for CNN.com

this seems to me an accurate assessment of the situation.
i support taxing the bonuses.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:33 PM
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12. Taking responsibility is a good start.
Not sure you'll get everything "you" want, but I think he's on the right track. Consider 8 years of never taking responsibility for anything as an alternative.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:42 PM
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17. Except for every week we hear that people are still losing their homes and retirements ...
... while on wall street it's just another day.

multi million dollar bonuses
multi million dollar get aways
multi million dollar office remodeling

If they caused it, why do they not suffer at least as much as their victims?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:27 PM
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27. They should suffer - what you speak of is called "populism"
Of course they should suffer too - do you believe Obama thinks that they should be coddled? Do you not think that taking responsibility is a good start? Do you think that Obama can change the world instantaneously?
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:33 PM
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30. I don't think Obama thinks they should be coddled - I'm not so sure about Geithner and Dodd though
And Obama's problem is that he is apparently not making it clear to all involved what the priorities should be. The financial failures appear to be getting more protection from government than their victims.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:00 PM
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19. Our president
This again shows how much different He Is from Bush.With Bush It was always everyone else's fault.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:14 PM
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23. I agree. But I fear he's starting to appear impotent.
Not because he is unable to turn around a global economy by sheer force of will but because the people who helped cause this problem appear to be tricking this administration and the Dems in congress into rewarding them for the damage they caused.

They create the legislation. The wall street failure department follows the legislation which protects their ability to reward themselves. And the the administration is all "What just happ... Hey! You guys weren't supposed to do that! Oh, it's in the legislation? But still! It's not fair! Ooooo I'm getting so mad!"

The administration is left sputtering and blaming each other. And you know next week they'll be another pile of cash some wall street failure will carve out of the TARP funds for themselves and point to the government regulation which told them they could do it. And once again they'll be dragged in front of congress to be berated and then when the cameras go off they'll go write another personal windfall for some wall street morons to be discovered next month.

I think Barack could stop this. He's got to stop trusting that everyone wants the same thing as he does.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:23 PM
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25. You mean "Important". "Impotent" is whining about a president who...
...more than any in the last 50 or so years has been more consistent with what he promised to try to do and what he's actually done than any other.

:hi:
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:28 PM
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28. I don't think he promised to help wall street failures personally profit ....
.... from the financial meltdown. So he should feel safe to at least attempt to prevent that without fearing he'll break a campaign promise.

But it may mean not trusting Geithner and congress not to continue supporting the looting of the treasury by their friends.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:28 PM
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29. Thanks for the correction
The O/P took a negativity pill this morning and wants to share the "feeling" with the rest of us :D
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:38 PM
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31. Damn right I'm negative about our looters being rewarded
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 02:01 PM
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21. Obama: Please shift recovery policy from Wall Street to MAIN STREET
Where it always should have been focused.

It's time for trickle UP Economics. Benefits on Main Street will trickle up to Wall Street.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 05:19 PM
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35. Damn straight, no more pretty words. No offense to the verbally gifted. nt
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