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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:46 PM Original message |
How misleading was Obama's speech on US education? Just read this new WAPO analysis |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. the WAPO critical of President Barack Obama? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. WaPo shills for the r/w, but you're getting adept at finding |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Consider the OP's chosen headline |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Would you like to know the headline chosen by the Huffington Post? |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. The Washington Post printed an article today saying the Red Cross found torture in black sites |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. And I'm sure they were this consistently critical of Bush's "No Child Left Behind" |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Could any of these facts cited in the article be correct? |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Well, more independent and progressive sites have fact-checked the speech |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fact checking the fact checker. |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. Politic0 and the Wapo are out for scalps |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Not Politico. It's Politifact |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Screw politifact, I said politic0 and wapo. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What does Politico have to do with the speech? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. politico is also a r/w 'cesspool'... |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Yeah but who is defending Politico? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. What difference does it make what you said |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Louis-Emmanuel, you must not criticize the "new democrat" leader or the true believers will get you |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Quoting unnamed Politico "sources" & still refighting the primary wars, msongs? Tsk, tsk. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. who quoted Politico sources? |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Thanks for the tip nt |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nothing our beloved leader says could ever possibly be incorrect. Come on guys, |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Oh, the Messiah argument. Original. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I don't like the "Valerie Strauss is wrong because she works for WAPO...argument |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. who cares whether you like an argument or not? |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. do you agree with me though? is that kind of logic valid? |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. Is 9th place acceptable because they were 15th the year before? |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Nobody is arguing it's acceptable |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. The WP article you link does not claim Obama's facts are wrong, with one exception. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. That's why I said "misleading" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Splitting hairs with yet another anti-Obama education speech OP? Gee, welcome to DU. Really. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Which is in itself misleading, since she doesn't claim that. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Obama is using the TIMSS and nothing but the TIMSS |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. You are deliberately avoiding my point |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. And the study you used as an alternative has only been conducted 3 times |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Again, not close to my point. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Interesting that the White House did not use your interesting defense |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is why I don't let WAPO do my factchecking |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. That's because the OP article |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Good point |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Here are some useful links |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. The OP isn't factchecking. Period. n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
34. This is a paper whose own editorial board contradicts facts presented by their own reporters! |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. It's not at all surprising that you twist the article to make it as anti-Obama as possible. |
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Louis-Emmanuel (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. In which way do you think the article supported Obama's claims? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Your agenda has been crystal clear from day one. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
40. Some hack writes a hit piece about Obama and nit picks his comments. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
41. You don't stop trying do you? n/t |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
44. Wapo, owned by General Electric who own CNN and 26 more |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-16-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. charter schools are small and successful |
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