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Edited on Sat Mar-07-09 08:53 PM by Peace Patriot
they try them here--for which there is a lot evidence (for instance, "shock and awe" economics hit Latin America first; those countries were totally trashed; now us)--then you might want to know that secession of the oil provinces, by fascist groups in Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia, was a Bushwhack strategy for regaining global corporate predator control of the oil. The president of Ecuador, Rafael Correa, spoke publicly of this plot and said it was coordinated among the Bushwhacks and fascist groups in all three countries. And they tried it in Bolivia in September. White supremicist groups who wanted to split off Bolivia's eastern provinces (where all the gas and oil are) from the central government of Evo Morales--the first indigenous president of Bolivia (a largely indigenous country)--were funded and organized right out of the U.S. embassy, and by the DEA. They rioted in September of last year, to try to prevent a vote on Bolivia's new Constitution, trashed government and NGO buildings, went around beating up the indigenous, blew up a gas pipeline and machine-gunned some 30 unarmed peasants.
Morales threw the U.S. ambassador and the DEA out of Bolivia, and South America's new Common Market--UNASUR--went into action, gave Morales unanimous backing, and succeeded--where others had failed--to broker a peace with the saner fascist factions, so that Bolivia's vote went forward peacefully. The new Constitution actually grants some autonomy to provences and indigenous tribes who want it, but they can't split Bolivia up, nor deny the national government use of the gas/oil profits.
The Bushwhack coup failed in Bolivia--but there is the possibility that it was only a rehearsal for the bigger prizes of Venezuela's and Ecuador's oil fields. Bolivia is land-locked--not a very viable strategic situation for coupsters--and, right in the middle of things, neighboring Paraguay elected its first leftist president, ever, thus cutting off one possible route for U.S. military support. Venezuela is in a much more vulnerable strategic position. Its chief oil state, Zulia, sits right on the Caribbean--where the Bushwhacks reconstituted the U.S. 4th Fleet last year--and adjacent to Colombia, a Bush Cartel client state ($6 BILLION in U.S.-Bushwhack military aid; rife with rightwing death squads, and high level cocaine trafficking; its next potential 'president' is the Defense Minister, who hates Chavez). Zulia has a fascist governor, and there is evidence of fascist secessionist plotting between the Zulia fascists and Colombia's military.
Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, said that the 4th Fleet also constitutes a threat to Brazil's oil fields, and proposed a "common defense" in the context of UNASUR. (They all know that the 4th Fleet is aimed at Venezuela.)
Ecuador's northern oil region is also vulnerable. The U.S. military base at Manta, Ecuador, on the Pacific, is located here--it is also adjacent to Colombia (to the south of it). And it is also dominated by a fascist cabal. Earlier in 2008, the U.S. (Bushwhacks)/Colombia tried to provoke Ecuador into a hot war, by using ten U.S. "smart bombs" to blow away a leftist guerrilla (FARC) temporary camp just inside Ecuador's border, and raided over the border, killing 25 people in their sleep, on the eve of FARC's release of hostage Ingrid Betancourt (in March). French, Spanish and Swiss envoys were in Ecuador to receive her, under Correa's auspices. Correa rushed military battalions to his border with Colombia, as did Chavez in Venezuela, and the region seemed poised for war. Apparently, Chavez talked Correa out of retaliating--smelling a war trap--for which Lulu de Silva called Chavez "the great peacemaker". But the guantlet was down, and the situation remains volatile. Also, Correa has pledged to throw the U.S. military out of Ecuador, when the base lease is up, this year.
If the Bushwhacks are still seeking control of Venezuela's and Ecuador's oil reserves--a possibility, considering the amount of money they stole from us, and the private armies they created at our expense, and the allies they've bought in Colombia and elsewhere, they could wage a private war, on Exxon Mobil's behalf, and try to draw Obama into it (--a sort of "Bay of Pigs" situation for Obama--a war not of his making, but with the military/CIA pressuring him to support the "freedom fighters" in these secessionist states who will declare their "independence").
One more thing: Venezuela and Ecuador are both strong democracies. For instance, they have elections that are far, far more transparent than our own; they are progressive, inclusive and encourage participation by the vast poor majority; while Colombia is a fascist narco-state, where thousands of union leaders and other dissenters have been murdered by rightwing death squads. Secessionist states, in control of the oil, and in cahoots with Colombia and with our global corporate predators, would be ruinous to these target countries. When the Bushwhacks couldn't provoke Ecuador into a war, they took to calling both President Chavez and President Correa "dictators" and "terrorist-lovers." It is not true, of course, but it sure smells like the kind of psyops that are the preliminary to war. The attacks on Chavez are relentless, and continue to this day, in the corpo/fascist press, with even Obama chiming in on the disinformation campaign, in what is still an unformed U.S. policy of the new White House, I think. (Lula da Silva is meeting with Obama on March 14 to try to inform him about the real situation in South America. I hope Obama listens.)
The reason I have laid all this out, in this thread about possible secessionist movements in U.S. states, in that it seems to be a Bushwhack M.O. The rightwing in both of these target countries has been encouraged by the Bushwhacks to behave like traitors. They don't care if they detabilize their countries and destroy their own democracies--they are seethingly power hungry minorities. Sound familiar?
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