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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:35 PM
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Freeper Meltdown after Jindal's Unmitigated Disaster
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 01:39 PM by SuperTrouper
To: libertarian9
I have to agree. The setting was horrific; too busy. The suit was ill-fitting and the bold stripped tie was annoying (and I don't know anything about fashion).
I would add that someone needs to teach the GOP about youtube and other networking sites. From what I can tell, there's still no "official" GOP rebuttal video posted.


4 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:13:54 AM by Big_Monkey
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The first 10 minutes was a disaster. Oh wait, the speech was only 10 mins long? Well, I was hoping he would do well but did not impress.

We need four things four years from now. Personality, Can give a speech, conservative, and can raise $500 million.

I think the only person who can do all four is Palin. I did not connect with Jindal at all tonight and I don’t know if anyone else can raise %500 million.



5 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:14:42 AM by WatchYourself
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Must have been McCain’s people!



6 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:44 AM by WatchYourself
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I agree. That was an awful speech. It was totally disconnected from Obama's speech!

8 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:18:17 AM by TeacupQueen
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“Are you #$%#$#s propping up some other candidate or just dumber than dirt?”

If by candidate you mean someone to pit against 0bama,then, yes, I’m propping up most other potential candidates.

Jindal might govern well in his state but he will NEVER beat 0bama, never in a million years.



9 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:19:01 AM by Boucheau
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Jindal’s speech was a stinker. To begin with, I’m sick of hearing republicans going on and on about how the election of 0bama was so so historic. Jindal’s delivery was poor, and his attempts at personalizing stories kind of fell flat. I’ve heard him speak before, he’s a smart guy, but he’s very dull. If he were to get the nomination in 2012 he’d draw McCain size crowds, maybe a bit bigger. Bored, unenthusiastic crowds don’t volunteer, don’t donate, and sometimes don’t even vote. Last I heard he’s only rejected $98 million of the stimulus for Louisiana, which is just over ten percent. Palin has rejected about 50 percent of the $1 billion offered her state. All she’s taking are for construction projects.



12 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:24:32 AM by euram
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Why not blame Jindal?



14 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:25:36 AM by wardaddy (I feel like a Boer but this time white northern liberals are playing the English)
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I have no idea what Jindal was rambling on about.

That was bad.



15 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:27:02 AM by Rodney Dangerfield (Barack Obama - aka "President Milli Vanilli")
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I didn’t watch it but the GOP needs to quit being so damn apologetic period. They need to learn how to deliver and keep talking points going beyond a news cycle. They need to choose talking points that resonate with the common man. No one believes that we can spend ourselves out of this mess. Keep it simple. The people don’t need to be reminded of how strong they are, they just need to be reminded of how corrupt and worthless our government is. The problem is far too many Republicans have a fondness for Washington which is not by chance one of the only cities not being hit by the current recession.

What has the government done to deserve our trust or our money? They have wasted our money and have betrayed our trust.



16 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28:41 AM by Maelstorm (While private sector workers lose jobs, union civil servants get a raise. Only in America.)
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Did anyone else notice tonight that Jindal referred to Obama in his speech ‘completing a redemptive journey’: with Jindal legitimizing Obama why does he need the MSM?

In addition it is also a prime example of ‘white guilt’ that the GOP must overcome if they are to win 2010 and 2012.



18 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:34:21 AM by techno
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Kinda sucks because Obama is considered such a great politician because he can read from a teleprompter.
Jindal would crush him in most other forums. I remember listening to Jindal give a pre-hurricane briefing and instead of saying "please evacuate, and here is my emergency management team," he briefed the whole thing. Quite impressive.

As far as tonight goes, it sounded too much like a speech and not enough like Jindal. Americans shouldn't care where a Republican comes from, they will figure that out on their own. He should have stuck to his main message; believe in the United State, not the United States Government. I have been going nuts waiting for somebody in the GOP to say this for months now. That is the message.


20 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:44:28 AM by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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I've read about Jindal for months now, but this is the first speech I've seen him make.
An unmitigated disaster.

People who say "What about the substance, he had that" can pat themselves on the back for being about substance if they want, that's not the issue. If no one listens to you, it doesn't matter what you say.

The country likes Obama's style. Like it or not, Jindal looked like the same old thing, someone not prepared for the spotlight who thinks he can overcome inexperience by being fake-friendly. He came off like a hopped-up Mr. Rogers, and as sincere as a used car salesman during a Going Out of Business sale.

One can claim none of this matters, but it does, big time. I don't think Sarah Palin will be the nominee in 2012, but seeing this video showed you how a genuine communicator does it--and it ain't like Jindal. Palin is comfortable in front of the camera and talking to the televiion audience. Whatever the issues are that will keep her from being the next nominee, that ain't one of them.

If we learned anything about the media from the last 9 years it's that if you aren't a good communicator, you've lost the message war, and if you've lost the message war, you've lost, period.

Jindal is off my list for potential 2012 nominee. Which leaves...no one.


23 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:49:35 AM by Darkwolf377 (I miss W)
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I heard Jindal on the radio earlier today. Sounded squishy.

A Republican should have gone on tonight and said:

Why have you spent over a million dollars keeping your birth certificate locked up?

Are you a natural-born citizen? Are you even a citizen?

Since your grandfather, father, mother, and mentor, and all your associates since childhood have been Communists—Why aren’t you a Communist? Or are you?

Why have you seized control of the census?

Why have you given ACORN $4 billion? Isn’t there enough thuggery and vote fraud to satisfy you?

Of course the “stimulus bill” had no earmarks—It was 100% PORK from beginning to end. Earmarks are pork! If a bill is 100& pork, there’s no need for earmarks.

Why is the money supply shooting up like a moon rocket?

And why have you spent over a million dollars keeping your birth certificate locked up? (I know—I want to see this question repeated.)



27 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:04:48 AM by Arthur McGowan
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"Jindal is off my list for potential 2012 nominee. Which leaves...no one."
I was equally disappointed. I agree, Palin is comfortably better than Jindal in front of the camera. Unfortunately, I don't believe Palin has a prayer in a national election; too much damage already done.

What about Sanford? I saw him on Fox News Sunday this past week and thought he held his own nicely. Which, I thought was difficult when competing with three other guests. Of course, he does have the "just another white guy from the South" persona that brings it's own set of problems.


31 posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:24:30 AM by Big_Monkey
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People keep expecting the GOP to exhibit a small level of competency.
It is an insane expectation.

DC politicians bring in a fresh face and then apparently don't adequately prepare or support him, not a surprise.

I would rather get my gall bladder removed than watch a political speech from either party, but from what I am reading here people were disappointed that Jindal wasn't as smooth as Hussein Baraka.

At some point more free people will realize that this won't be solved at the ballot box or by professional politicians, but by outraged patriots taking to the streets and demanding that the socialists take their hands out of our grand kids pockets.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:37 PM
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1. I have to say that I thought he was forgettable, but not disastrous
I found it weird that I was finding assessments of his performance (by conservatives, no less) to be much harsher than I would have claimed.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:37 PM
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2. Limpballs has been trying to defend him against his callers all day.
They are none too pleased. And, poor limpballs is stuck with him!
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:42 PM
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6. Rush is such a fucking hypocrite...
He loved Sarah for her personality, and now he's saying the conservatives shouldn't want someone with good style to go against Obama, that it should be about their "principles" more than anything else. What a crock of crap. Bottom line is Jindal was worse than me in my high school speech class around a decade ago. The President should be able to effectively communicate his ideas and connect with the public.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:39 PM
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3. They've got all their bases covered - Palin is the savior and Obama is a muslim communist
I can't help but love watching them squirm about, like a slug whose had slat dumped upon it.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:42 PM
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7. Let them run Palin.
Heck, she may even lose Tennessee for them as a result of her stupidity.

(We can hope).
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:52 PM
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12. That would be great if they did
I'm not sure about Tennessee though - I've been proven to be an idiot each time I think that Tennessee is turning the corner and starting to see daylight. But we'll keep working our hardest to make it happen.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:38 PM
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28. When they start patching that cornfield they call I-40 with Federal dollars
and are employing construction workers, engineers and skilled tradesman with that money, you make sure to tell your fellow Volunteer Stater's just where that money came from.

They'll get the message when the dollars get down to their level.

They might think differently about what party actually gives a crap about the working man, and what party just passed the largest tax cut they'll ever see.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:43 PM
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30. Eww!
To think that SHE would be the first woman presidental candidate on a major ticket ..... :puke:
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:40 PM
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4. LOL, Jindal has WHITE GUILT now!
And if you try to point out that an Indian-American can't have white guilt, you're being POLITICALLY CORRECT!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:59 PM
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19. I noticed that, too
WTF?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:41 PM
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5. "the GOP needs to quit being so damn apologetic period."
Well...I don't seem to remember them being "apologetic" at all. They seem to keep beating the same fucking dead horse and not admitting they fucked up.

Oh wait. FReepers. Fantasy world of all their own.

"Patriots"...in their own little world.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:43 PM
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8. lol
"Jindal is off my list for potential 2012 nominee. Which leaves...no one"
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:43 PM
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9. The birth certificate thing? Still? Really?
Wow.

Crazy-ass motherfuckers over there.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:47 PM
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20. The birth certificate, the communism thing, and ACORN.
That's just one big steaming cup of stupid.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:44 PM
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10. Oh well. Another rethug political flop. Looks like it is back to the rethug talent..........
cesspool.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:47 PM
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11. Oh my goodness!
This doesn't bode well for Jindal. For a while, I thought I was reading comments from DU until I got to the guy who said the government had spent a million bucks hiding Obama's birth certificate and all his family were Commies anyway. These folks are loons, but even loons can sense when something is realllly bad.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:58 PM
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13. They are deluded about Palin's talent in front of the
camera. She was only able to connect with rabid right wing crowds. Her performances during TV interviews and the VP debate were pathetic and the public knew it.

And, gee, I had no idea that President Obama's family, friends and associates were all Commies.
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:26 PM
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16. She can only connect with rabid right wing STUPID people
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 02:28 PM by DeschutesRiver
Not even the smarter Repubs I know thought much of Palin. One entire family (big family, wealthy, connected, life long repubs with pictures of their patriarch shaking hands with Bush prominently displayed in living room) switched and voted Democrat - because of the stupidity of Sarah Palin. The older generation in that family were smart people (the kids are dumb but do as told since they live off the family trusts).

Jindal also tried to tailor his speech for stupid slow people. His version wasn't delivered in a hot jacket like Palin was; he went for simple words, delivered in a sing-songy Sesame Street voice, trotted out folksy phrases, not to mention that ridiculously corny entry (that was uber wierd - thought I had the reality channel on by mistake). Agree with everyone on the net who described him as Mr. Rodgers/the Sham-wow guy/Billy Mays or just a used car salesman dumbing it down for the gullible.

Either the Repubs get rid of the bottom sucking stupid scum as their main base, or they will never hold high office again. While this has revealed to me that there are more stupid people out there than I thought possible, it also showed me that the "not dumb" are in the majority now and in control.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:53 PM
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18. Very true. Which makes her candidacy even less viable. eom
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:42 PM
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35. I hope so! n/t
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AyanEva Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:00 PM
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14. I admire you for being strong enough to go over there and bring back a report..
I think my head would just implode if I tried it.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:10 PM
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15. Choosing between Palin and Jindal is like choosing nails in your eyes or down your throat
I'm glad they are puzzled. Jindal and Palin will be on the 2012 ticket and perhaps we can finally get rid of this FILTHY party.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:44 PM
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17. ACORN got $4 billion? Are they hiring?
Do I have to show my Communist Party membership card to get in?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:48 PM
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21. Does the GOP plan on actually coming forward with ideas, or just lies?
Lies don't seem to be working so well for them right now, maybe they should change gears.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:49 PM
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22. They can't, they are trapped in their lies, they have nothing to offer to the nation. nt
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:59 PM
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23. These are very enjoyable
Did you notice this little gem:

"by Darkwolf377 (I miss W)"

DELICIOUS!!!
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:00 PM
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24. LOL...Palin = FAIL X 2
:rofl:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:00 PM
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25. Delete
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 04:00 PM by Bobbie Jo
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:15 PM
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26. Whatever these people are smoking, I want some
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 04:16 PM by TrogL
Why have you spent over a million dollars keeping your birth certificate locked up? :wtf:

Are you a natural-born citizen? Are you even a citizen? :shrug:

Since your grandfather, father, mother, and mentor, and all your associates since childhood have been Communists—Why aren’t you a Communist? Or are you?

Where'd this come from?

Why have you seized control of the census? :wtf:

Why have you given ACORN $4 billion? Isn’t there enough thuggery and vote fraud to satisfy you?

Last I checked, ACORN was pretty much broke.

Of course the “stimulus bill” had no earmarks—It was 100% PORK from beginning to end. Earmarks are pork! If a bill is 100& pork, there’s no need for earmarks.

If your definition of "PORK" is money spent on infrastructure, the more the merrier. At least it's better than Palin's bridge to nowhere.

Why is the money supply shooting up like a moon rocket?

Because there's no demand for loans at exorbitant interest rates.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:20 PM
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27. To be accurate
the Republican definition of "pork" is anything not a tax cut
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:42 PM
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29. Poor things .
and some asshole is still talking about the damn birth certificate?

Pretty bad when they so called great hope make Palin look good.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:44 PM
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31. The best line: "...who thinks he can overcome inexperience by being fake-friendly..."
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 04:45 PM by The Night Owl
Some random Freeper wrote...

The country likes Obama's style. Like it or not, Jindal looked like the same old thing, someone not prepared for the spotlight who thinks he can overcome inexperience by being fake-friendly. He came off like a hopped-up Mr. Rogers, and as sincere as a used car salesman during a Going Out of Business sale.


Indeed.

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nakanishi oshi Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:58 PM
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32. There goes his "promising" career
You know you are toast when your base disapproves of your first speech.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 05:00 PM
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34. But...but.. he was their rising star... LMAO!!
:rofl:
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:58 PM
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33. I couldnt get past..."the suit was ill-fitting"...OMGarsh...these people... n/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:45 PM
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36. Well that's one thing that they are right about. Sadly for Jindal, I do think that
he's one of these people with a goofy body type that clothes just don't look good on, I suspect a 5 thousand dollar suit might not look much better on him.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:53 PM
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37. This bastard is CRAZY
To: libertarian9
People keep expecting the GOP to exhibit a small level of competency.
It is an insane expectation.

DC politicians bring in a fresh face and then apparently don't adequately prepare or support him, not a surprise.

I would rather get my gall bladder removed than watch a political speech from either party, but from what I am reading here people were disappointed that Jindal wasn't as smooth as Hussein Baraka.

At some point more free people will realize that this won't be solved at the ballot box or by professional politicians, but by outraged patriots taking to the streets and demanding that the socialists take their hands out of our grand kids pockets.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:41 PM
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38. Hussein is an Arabic name meaning "good."
Baraka, I believe, is a Swahili name meaning "blessing." Is referring to our president as Hussein Baraka supposed to be an insult?

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