So about this hero worship thing...

[Danger Mouse]

I agree that there are a handful of people that take their admiration of Obama too far. They get pretty tiresome.
However, there's also a handful of people here that will complain about everything Obama does and never have a positive thing to say.
These people get tiresome as well.
Most of us, I imagine, are in the middle...we generally agree with a lot of Obama's choices, but may express disagreement or disappointment if he does something we don't like.
If somebody tries to criticize Obama, there will inevitably be a handful of people that attack that person with childish, shrill personal attacks.
If somebody tries to praise Obama, there will inevitably be a handful of people that attack that person with condescending, bitter snark.
Again, most of us wind up somewhere in the middle.

That's the nature of DU. All kinds of perspectives, from one extreme to another and everything in between. Is it good? Bad? I don't know. It certainly is interesting! :)

[AtomicKitten]

1. The accusation of worship was always intended to demean the goodwill people feel toward Obama

and almost always comes from those still dining on sour grapes.

[Danger Mouse]

2. Yet there are people who ARE blinded by loyalty to Obama...

and mindlessly attack and demean people with legitimate criticisms.
It cuts both ways.

[AtomicKitten]

3. and there are those that label "blind loyalty" by ignoring the criticism people actually make

because it doesn't fit into their agenda of extremes labeling.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. No, there aren't.

I saw all of the threads deemed "Obama worship" in that locked thread were simply admiring the good job he's doing, not worshipping him.

Who ever you supported in the primaries, or the general, lost.

Get over it.

[Captain Hilts]

7. Wow, didn't take you long to piss on this thread. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Well speak of the devil...

:rofl:

[last_texas_dem]

9. Obama lost?

[stray cat]

5. I think more often they are people labeled that way because they disagree with the severity

of a criticism. The label most often is a disservice to people who have a different opinion. Basically its another way to name call and demean.

[Cha]

10. I don't know of any..and you

better not say, "you". :P

There's so much hate for Obama out there.. that I'm happy the love is there to counteract it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5062106&mesg_id=5062106

I've been offline for a day so I don't know what the inception of all this "hero worship" jive came from..but to me it's the same ol same ol crap that I've seen around here since the primaries(on and off).

Nobody out in the real world who loves Obama and what he's done for our country gets that label put on them.

[Cha]

11. Precisely~ Can't demean

it, though. They can type until they're blue in the face.

[AtomicKitten]

19. their raison d'etre dictates they keep trying n/t

[Enrique]

17. neither of those is true for me

and I don't think it's true for many others, maybe none at all.

[AtomicKitten]

18. except for those that it is true

even those that can't admit it

[Enrique]

21. how do you know that?

how do you know what motivates these people?

[AtomicKitten]

22. I know by the views posted here at DU

that agree much of the barking of "hero worship" is a regurgitation of sour grapes. You're perfectly welcome and entitled to disagree, but do not presume to state unequivocally that "maybe it isn't true for anyone." That statement is a projection of your unwillingness see how others think which is odd because you can read it for yourself here at DU 24/7.

[Enrique]

23. you're wrong about my motivation

and it's pretty annoying.

I don't know about anyone else's motivation, but you could easily be wrong about them too and it's probably annoying to them too.

I asked how you knew and I didn't understand your answer.

[AtomicKitten]

25. I never mentioned YOUR motivation re: accusations of "hero worship."

We are speaking in sweeping generalities here based on data available at this website. This isn't about YOU, but your response seems to indicate you feel you need to explain yourself in some way, apparently by denying anybody thinks that way.

My comment is based on all that I've read here at DU.

The point of disagreement is that I think many comments are generated from sour grapes, you suggest none. Distilled into a nutshell for you. You're welcome.

[Enrique]

26. that's what happens when you speak in such generalities

it IS about me, even if you say it isn't, when you say "the talk about worship was always meant to demean the goodwill for Obama".

I know that's not true about me, and I find it very unlikely that it's true about ANYONE. Tons of goodwill for Obama here, and I'm almost certain that everyone shares in it.

Why so vague, "based on all that I've read...". Make such a strong statement, back it up.

[AtomicKitten]

29. You are welcome to peruse the picture threads that generated the "hero worship" assault here at DU.

A coordinated assault I might add. Yes, many people are thrilled with the new president and his lovely family, and some here at DU just aren't having that.

Those sour grapes comments can be found on the threads ridiculing the notion of "hero worship," and the goodwill "based on what I've read here at DU" can be found clustered on the homage picture threads; look them up yourself.

You need to read more closely; when I used words like "much" and "many," that inherently doesn't mean all. So, relax, big boy.

[Enrique]

30. I have read them and I think you're wrong

I don't think a single person doesn't share in the good feeling about Obama winning. Based on anything in that thread or anywhere else. Of course I could be wrong, how would I know? But how would you know either?

[Life Long Dem]

20. And then there are some who just like the word "worship".

"worship""worship""worship""worship""worship""worship""worship""worship"
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Who should I go worship today? I think I'll go worship VP President Joe Biden! :bounce:

[AtomicKitten]

24. I'm worshipping my cup 'o joe right now.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. I think the hero worship thing is more indicative of what's going on in society -

My friends call me very cynical because I don't do the hero worship thing with anyone. I am one of those that think we all have something to offer, and putting anyone on a pedestal is not right.

But that is not how things tend to be these days, what with Oprah, American Idol, sports - way too many lemmings out there for my liking.

[LWolf]

12. I can see that I haven't missed much the last couple of weeks.

I've been busy, and just haven't had the time and energy to sort through all the propaganda to find serious discussions of issues.

I pop in for awhile this evening, and the board is awash with post "hero thread" discussions. Oh, the drama.

:rofl:

For the record: I don't consider Obama to be a hero. He is a politician, which is counter-heroic from my perspective.

I've never been a fan, never been a supporter, and am often nauseated by the cheerleaders, the fan club, or, perhaps, the hero worship.

But that's ok. I can always find something better to read, and others' opinions are fine with me, as long as they express them with moderation.

As an Obama skeptic, I'm doing what so many demanded, screeched, yelled, and attempted to bully me into doing: withholding judgement until we get to 100 days.

Which means I don't have much to say on DU, since there aren't too many discussions these days that aren't about Obama.

That's okay. I'm catching up on my stack of books to be read, and resting that repetive motion injury in my right wrist.

[EraOfResponsibility]

13. folks on both sides just don't want to get their feelings hurt, that's all

that's the long and short of it.

[Marrah_G]

14. I think your assessment is spot on !

[ClarkUSA]

15. So people who trashed Obama ad nauseum last year or got on board late frown on celebratory OPs now..

What a surprise. Not.

[Starry Messenger]

16. I can't find anything controversial in your thread.

[BlooInBloo]

27. More bullshit false equivalence.

It's nowhere NEAR the same number on both sides. And everybody knows it.

[Tyler Generation]

28. That's just our little friend free speech! nt