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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:39 PM
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In Iowa, I got an automated polling call focused on Nader
It asked 3 questions.

1. Will you Vote? press 1-3 based on how certain you are that you will vote.
2. Who will you vote for? 1. * 2. Kerry 3. Nader
3. What is the chance that you may change your vote to Nader?
1. good chance you may change your vote to Nader
2. something else, less a chance then 1. and
3. slim to no chance you will change your vote to Nader.

My answers were (obviously) 1./2./3.

This is a swing state and I kind of got the impression it may be the Nader (or Bush - what is the difference really) campaign.

I am a registered Dem who voted for Dean in the Caucus (I think they may know that from the caucus information).

I just thought it was interesting but it was automated so I couldn't ask who was conducting the poll.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:46 PM
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1. And I thought * was desperate. Nadar is so wrong. I wrote him yest. I told
him his reasons were a loss and he is only doing this for himself. A bunch of his followers asked too. He is ignoring all.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:49 PM
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2. I did too in Nevada
I got the call on my cell phone. 775 area code
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:49 PM
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3. I got the exact same call in Ohio today.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 09:50 PM by MercutioATC
1-2-3 for me, too.

I was kind of disappointed that I was helping the Nader campaign (even if I WAS telling them things they didn't want to hear).
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:19 AM
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4. Three swing states so far, three Nader calls -- nt
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:31 AM
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5. Me Smells The RNC Boys Are Doing Their Homework
Yep, battlegrounds, and, IIRC, states where Nader is on the ballot.

Smells to this nose like their checking Bunnypant's strength through Nader. Might even be checking to see if kicking up or wratcheting down his campaign could help or not in hurting Kerry in those states.

If they're seeing strong Nader against Kerry, they could pass this info along to a friendly 527 or wink at those Nader donors to kick in a few bucks to get Ralphie's numbers even higher in those area. Inversely, if they see Nader making too much of an impact, they can nudge those same folks into cooling their activities in those area.

Seems like this is "calibration" time. Checking out if Nader is having an effect, and where they can exploit him. Seems just like typical GOOP modus operandi and some of us who verifies how some of us thought the GOOP was assisting and either duping or paying off Nader to play their stalking horse.

One day, the true dirt on this election will come out...people will shake heads and claim they couldn't believe such things are happening. Makes one very sleepless at night.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:35 AM
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6. Did you intend to evoke Nazi Germany
with your last sentence.

Or was it just me who immediately thought of the Germans who were just down the road from the Concentration Camps.

"We had no idea."
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:44 AM
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7. If A Reference Was Made, It Wasn't In That Vein
But in many ways your image works well here well. Some of these people are the "Schultz's" (to use a bad Hogan's Hero) metaphor...where they have their heads buried in the sand or just want to know nothing.

To those people, I have contempt, but also at least their "sublime isolation" is benign as they won't vote or want to participate in the process but always will bitch about it.

The ones that are the most dangerous and hypocritical are the percentage...and your guess of that percentage is as good as mine...of people who know this regime is wrong, know it's not going to improve and will vote to keep it in power anyway. Some do so through the "justification" of the lies of a true third-reich style mind control apparateus while others do it under imense family, job or peer pressure. Madness!
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:52 AM
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8. It's got to be Bush.
Nadir has no money for this, and no interest, either, since polls are used for allocating resources (Nadir has none), and fine tuning strategy (Nadir has one, to sabotage Kerry, and that isn't changing), and message (Nadir has one, that there's no difference between the parties, and that isn't changing, either).

This looks like the Bush campaign is doing cost-benefit work on funding the Nadir campaign. You can bet that if these polls reveal an opportunity for Nadir to steal a state from Kerry, the Republican money men will offer him a deal: "Hey Ralphie, here's a couple of hundred thousand to campaign in Pennsylvania for the next month." And Nadir would take it with a smile on his hangdog face.

It's amusing that Nadir and some of the geniuses who post here claim there's no difference between the two parties, yet the
Republicans are willing to spend a lot of money to keep Nadir afloat. Obviously, someone thinks there's a huge fucking difference between Kerry and Bush, Democrat and Republican.

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lefty75 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 05:30 AM
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9. I also doubt it's Nader
No money to do that.

Anyways, even Noam Chomsky says there's a difference between the parties (he suggests it's small, but significant nonetheless). Nader won't win, why vote for him? Get Bush out, don't be selfish and elitist.
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