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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:20 PM
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I still love my President. I fully support him. I have his back.
I will post criticisms and disappointment from time to time (and I have already). But make no mistake....

When confronted, as I was recently, by a Democrat who has become totally convinced by rightwingers on TV and "friends" that Obama is a fuckup, I will totally, 100%, without a doubt, be in my President's corner. As I said to my Democrat friend...you DO realize that Obama has been President for ONLY two weeks, right? Silence from my friend. Hopefully he'd realized how little it had taken to get him to hate the man he'd voted for.

I stand behind Obama all the way. I think he is highly intelligent, a thoughtful man, who genuinely is trying to do the right thing for the country. Words have meaning to him, just as actions do. He's the right person at the right time for the horrible problems facing our country.

He will make mistakes. He IS human. And considering the mess the last administration left us, no one knows how to navigate us back to a good place.

So I'm taking just a minute, this one time, to say that despite my criticisms, I'm totally behind him and support him. I and millions of others have his back. The Republicans need to look elsewhere besides me and millions of others if they think they're going to convince me not to support Obama. Why would I listen to the people who brought us to the awful place we now find ourselvs in, anyway?

Obama has already made things better in postponing the killing of thousands of wolves and the destruction of the area around the Grand Canyon, which was set for drilling. He is forging ahead with his vision of a green America, to help the environment and get us out of the clutches of foreign oil. And this is only by his third week.

I love ya, Obama. Me and millions of others. We will not desert you. Do your job to the best of your ability, comforted by the knowledge that more than half the country is on your side.

That is all.:patriot:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:29 PM
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1. I agree and it is not "hero worship" it is political reality
that we have to learn when to be in "lock step" to a point where something can get done. The Republics sure know how to do it and it gives them power when they are in the effing minority!
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:42 PM
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2. The President can not change the World in just 2 weeks
I take every opportunity to slap down Republican lies. All Democratic supporters need to do the same. The brilliant Political machine of Obama was the Party wanting to win. It must keep its fire and defend itself.

The Recovery and Reinvestment Act just shows how organised Republicans are.

Democratic Congressional members (namely Senate) just cow tow to Repugs and allow them to win the battle of presentation. There is no need to be afraid of them. This should be a lesson to all. (Kerry again comes out of this brilliantly for his defence of the bill on tv).

If we lose the agenda already, EMCA and UHC get added to the list below.


Senate Spending Cuts From House Version

* $300 million to modernize USDA 100% cut
* $100 million research USDA 100% cut
* $750 million NASA 50% cut
* $1.4 billion, Nat Science Foundation, 100% cut
* $427 million, NOAA, 35% cut
* $150 million, VAWA, 50% cut
* $450 million, Police wireless radios, 50% cut
Rural Drug Enforcement, Border gunner program, internet crimes, etc., 50% cut
* $1 billion, Renewable Energy, 40% cut
* $4.5 billion, EISA energy loan guarantees, 50% cut
* $600 million, Utah project, CA Delta project, Uranium decontamination, DoE Off Science, 100% cuts
* Homeland Security, $122, 5 million for icebreakers, $14 million cyber security, 100% cut
* $55 million, Historic Preservation, 100% cut
* $20 million, Interior financial system upgrade, 100% cut
* $150 million, Smithsonian Upgrades, 100% cut
* $140 million, SSA IT upgrade, 100% cut
* $25 billion, state stabilization, 100% cut
* $14 billion, head start, idea, Title I, teaching grants, 50% cut
* $5 billion, Wellness & Prevention, HIV, Diabetes screen, smoking, flu, etc., 90% cut
* $200 million Filipino vets, 100% cut
* $600 million, State Dept, IT upgrades, cyberspace initiative, consular programs, US-Mexico water program, 100% cut
* $5.5 billion, Transportation HUD, 100% cut
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:42 AM
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37. krugman (nobel prize recipient) on what the corpwhores and obama have come up with
What the centrists have wrought

to appease the centrists, a plan that was already too small and too focused on ineffective tax cuts has been made significantly smaller, and even more focused on tax cuts....

Now the centrists have shaved off $86 billion in spending - much of it among the most effective and most needed parts of the plan. In particular, aid to state governments, which are in desperate straits, is both fast - because it prevents spending cuts rather than having to start up new projects - and effective, because it would in fact be spent; plus state and local governments are cutting back on essentials, so the social value of this spending would be high. But in the name of mighty centrism, $40 billion of that aid has been cut out.

My first cut says that the changes to the Senate bill will ensure that we have at least 600,000 fewer Americans employed over the next two years.

The real question now is whether Obama will be able to come back for more once it's clear that the plan is way inadequate. My guess is no. This is really, really bad.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 01:53 PM
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44. Despite all of this you still have some Democrats
saying there is too much "pork". Yeah the added defence expenditure for a start. That in no way should have ever been added redistributing help to working families to defence contractors.

Democratic Senators need to get on their hoibby horse. It is the Democratic Party in charge now. Act like it.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:11 PM
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3. BTW, speaking of "political reality," keep in mind that the same sort of
criminal swine who would threaten our closest ally (Britain) with withdrawing itelligence support and thus leaving them open to terrorist atatcks would not hesitate to threaten progressive lawmakers and presidents, and those with families are especially vulnerable.

The "aristocracy" who actually run this country (and the world) will tolerate some change, just enough to keep the goose that laid the golden egg on life-support, since their greed and excess has nearly killed the poor thing. But I am willing to be that anyone who doesn't at least bow to their pressure to some degree probably hears some very scary threats.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:20 PM
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4. I am glad to see your post. I am ignoring the "bitch" posts for one
reason: This is not the final bill. We know for sure what is in the House bill but until the Senate votes we do not know. Further even then we do not know what the final bill is because the House and Senate will go into conference to make the two bills into one final version. I am of the opinion that in these meetings the pugs will be able to go along with the Democratic bill without risking the anger of their constituents. I will only bitch when I see this final bill. As to the tax cuts - some of them were put in there by the Democrats to be able to get money (people spending) back into the economy as fast as possible. These include food stamp increases (many of us out here are experiencing real hunger), EIC which will put money in the hands of the working poor as soon as April and the extra SSI check will do the same thing. When people are talking about half being tax cuts they need to not count these.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:28 PM
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5. You are correct.
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:27 AM
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20. Blindly Loving Obama Is Much Like The Syncophatic Republicans That Worship Bush
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:06 AM
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25. It is not blind. And, pardon me, but.... Obama is NOT Bush.
If he changes, I reserve the right to change my mind. But that would be him changing on ME, not the reverse.

The Repub dogs are out all over the media, attacking this and that about Obama. It's not just about the bill, or just about the cabinet appointments. It's about chipping away at his popularity and support among the citizens. THAT'S what the dogs are doing.

I'm just sayin'....look elsewhere for another dog. I may criticize, I may express disappointment (and I certainly have), but I will not join the dogs' side. I'm still on Obama's side. The dogs will be waggin' to deaf ears.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:58 AM
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34. What?
I don't get it when I hear this.

I didn't vote for Bush either time, but I never wished for his failure. What caused me to speak out against him (after he stole the election) was the illegal war.

To blindly follow him after that was a crime against the constitution, in my mind.

Just what has President Obama done that places him in the same category as a criminal who violated our constitution repeatedly?

I hardly think the two can be conflated.

To suggest that having faith in someone two or three weeks into their position is the same as blindly following a criminal is outrageous.

I hope you were being sarcastic and I missed it:-)

I, for one, recall being new at several jobs and it isn't easy. If my employer had judged me unworthy of the job because I had a few missteps, I would be out of every job I ever had. That said, I don't see mistakes on the President's part yet. I see that he came forward to take responsibility for something (Daschle vetting) that didn't come close to the tax evasion/fraud of Palin, which no one ever apologized to us for. I see that the msm allowed "tax fraud" to become the meme, when that is inaccurate in its implied malice of forethought.

Expecting perfection in anyone is a mistake, of course. But having faith and blindly following are not the same thing, unless one chooses to throw all nuance out along with the English language.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:17 PM
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38. Who's blind? And, quit it with the rwinger
talking points. Fucking strawman.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:30 PM
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6. It's about patriotism. It's about flag. it's about country. It's about the leader.
Young children singing God Bless America in Boy Scout uniforms.

Mom and Apple Pie.

Quaint county fairs.

President Obama.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 09:47 AM
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23. Please, please tell me this is sarcasm. This is like a car commercial. The problem is it's NOT about
"patriotism" (which I don't believe in as a concept anyway), or "flag", or "country", or (ESPECIALLY or) "the leader", or "Young children singing God Bless America in Boy Scout uniforms" or "Mom and Apple Pie" or "quaint county fairs". Those are all just empty symbols.

It should be about jobs, healthcare, peace WITH justice, elimination of poverty, jobs, healthcare, a decent standard of living for all, jobs, healthcare, decent schools, living wage, jobs, and healthcare.

That other stuff is the worst kind of empty bullshit. (The Boy Scouts bar atheists and gay people, too, by the way).
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:17 AM
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27. I think he was being sarcastic. My support of O is not just a patriotic thing...
it's a response to the Repub dogs being out all over media trying to chip away at Obama's popularity from every angle. This bill, that bill, this cabinet appointment, that cabinet appointment, his clothes, whatever.

My response? Silly rabbits will have to look elsewhere for pound puppies to follow them into the abyss. I fully support Obama, even though I criticize, question, and have been spittin' mad a couple of times.

Like with a family member. You may rail at him, yell at him, be disappointed in him. But that doesn't mean you join the guys who are REALLY against him and want him to fail. You love your family member, and you want it all to turn out all right. So you support him, while trying to get him to do the right things along the way. Sort of like that.

That is all. (BTW, I am patriotic, too. As a woman, I've seen that there are few countries in the world that would, and did, offer me the opportunities that America did. Nothin' wrong with loving your country, or your family, or your home town. But for the record, I've never cared for applie pie, and I know little about the Boy Scouts.)
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:36 AM
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30. The analogy doesn't stick for one second,

"Mom and Apple Pie"- " President Obama" ?

hardly---

try

Toot and Spam sushi- President Obama.

We are moving in a new direction.


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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:44 AM
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33. Aren't we going to have pie?
I was promised pie and punch.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:07 AM
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35. I forgot!
Sorry-

Pie it is!

What's his favorite pie?
I don't think it's apple.

Hmm---
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:05 PM
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7. Ditto.
Recommended.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:19 PM
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8. K&R
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StopTheNeoCons Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:20 PM
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9. 100% loyalty and support to President Obama here
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:11 PM
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10. What a nice post. I like this.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:14 PM
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11. Welcome to a not so exclusive club.
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:05 PM
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12. What a great post in a sea of negativity
I am glad that you have his back. That puts you right up there with the Secret Service.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:34 PM
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13. Everything you said . . .
I too love our President.

:patriot:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:56 PM
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14. Me too
I love him him :loveya: I'll never desert him.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:25 PM
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15. WE got his back here in Ohio too! I love Obama! I'm worried for him, though
Not only is he up against the repukes but Wall Street and Corporate America who do not want change. Screw them! Obama, you keep taking them behind the woodshed.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:32 PM
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16. I don't love political figures. And I don't support them as a default position.
It all depends on what they DO.

Obama has an incredibly tough four years ahead of him. It won't be easy, or perfect. But so far, he has done pretty good.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:41 AM
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32. He's done plenty, but you know that. That's why you supported him already in November.
(Assuming you voted for him.)

I still love Jimmy Carter as a person, but I wouldn't vote for him as a political leader. I love Obama for the person he is, his character, his intentions (as I have surmised from his words and actions over the last several years) and his intellect.

So far he has done three very good things: signed the fair pay act, saved thousands of wolves from being killed (for the time being), and saved the area around the Grand Canyon from "drill, Baby" activities.

So far he has done several not so good things, IMO: Too many Clintonites in the cabinet, too many tax evaders in his appointments, too conciliatory to the Republics in a futile effort to humanize the dogs and bring them on board.

My point was: The Republics have sent the dogs out in a concerted effort to chip away at O's popularity and support. That is the goal. It's not just a bill or a cabinet appointment. I'm just sayin'....I'm onto them, and they need to look elsewhere for O supporters to lure to not being in O's corner. I'm in his corner for four years. (Of course, if Obama fooled me, or if he changes, then he would have left ME, not the reverse.)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:34 PM
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17. Are you sure the ihateobama forum is the place for this?
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:10 AM
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18. Hero Worship And Blind Patriotism Is Not What Democracy Is About
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:11 AM
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26. I agree. That's why I have none of that in my post. But the Repub dogs are waggin' to deaf ears...
if they think I'm so stupid as to join their chorus against the person I just voted for, and who is a far better, and smarter, person than the person the dogs had in power for eight years.

I criticize, I express disappointment. But I'm still in the O's corner. That's called support. Not hero worship.

His character is good, his intellect superior to anything we've had recently, his intentions are noble (for the most part). He's made some screwups. And I certainly disagree strongly and have been spittin' mad at some of the cabinet appointments. Still, the Repubs are wastin' their time if they think they're gonna convince me not to continue to support him.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:24 AM
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19. President Obama has shown his integrity we couldn't of asked for better. The only let >
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 05:26 AM by cooolandrew
down is the congress who's time will come(ath the ballot box) oh yes it will except for the ones who clearly love their country.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 08:20 AM
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21. Great op.
He is going to need all the support he can get dealing with the mess left by *Bush. The task ahead is monumental.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 08:52 AM
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22. he's doing what he can, but obviously decision making for this country lies elsewhere
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:02 AM
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24. Well said, thank you!
It is going to take a long time to undo the damage the last 8 years have done. I see a man trying very hard to do the right things, and also being the person he said he would be. I am proud to call him my President, and am excited to see what he will accomplish during his Presidency.

No one is perfect, and I don't expect perfection, but I do like seeing him undoing the things Bush has done, little by little...that gives me hope!
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:29 AM
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28. I am totally with my President. I couldn't say that for eight years.
I trust his judgment and those who are assisting him. He is a good man............
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:32 AM
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36. Does that include Henry Kissinger?
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:33 AM
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29. He is a good man
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 10:36 AM by sallyseven
He will be a great president. Write your congressman and Senators and tell them to do the right thing. The hell with the repuks. Any democrat who votes with the Collins gang is suspect. Look at holy Joe what a POS.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:39 AM
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31. Can we not use the word "Love"?
It fits and all, but... I'm married; he's married... it'd be awkward. I don't think I could take Michelle in a fight.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:36 PM
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41. He's the best president I've seen, except for FDR
I was a little kid when FDR was president, but people loved him and my parents hung on every word, just like we do with President Obama. He put so much effort into everything he does. He gets 15 "A"s for effort.

If there is anything to criticize, it's the Dem party that isn't always as supportive as they could be.

There are too many politicians with private agendas who put their own interests ahead of the country's.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:27 PM
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39. I stand behind Obama 100%.
:bounce:
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:32 PM
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40. Absolutely! He's done much more than I expected already
and lots of stuff I don't like, but the scale tips *way* positive.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:46 PM
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42. I am not easily fooled, especially by Republican shills.
I fully support President Obama.

PS, maybe we should call them the "Republic" party. After all, it seems sophomoric humor is all the GOP understands.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 01:28 PM
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43. I don't "love" him.
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 01:28 PM by LWolf
I never have. I've always seen him for what he is: a center-right politician.

While you've "got his back," I'll be over here on the left, a thorn in his side putting up obstacles as long whenever he leans to the right, panders to the right, and is complicit with the corporate right.

I will stand with him when he's right, which he has been a few times. I will encourage him when he stands up to corporate, military, and theocratic interests. And I will oppose him when he is wrong, and when he panders to the above interests.

Because it's not about Obama, or the Democratic Party, or the American Empire.

It's about the planet, her people, and the issues that will help her evolve into a healthier, more just, and more peaceful earth.
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