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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:19 PM
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Kos: "Mark Halperin is still a moron" and "Listen to John Kerry"
Steve Benen on Mark Halperin:

HALPERIN BLAMES OBAMA.... President Obama went to great lengths to reach out to House Republicans, trying to get them to support an economic stimulus in the midst of an economic crisis. The president not only offered them more tax cuts than seemed necessary, he also acted swiftly to remove spending provisions -- family planning, National Mall renovations -- that they mocked.

The entire Republican caucus, we now know, balked anyway. Time's Mark Halperin, naturally, is blaming Obama. From this morning's appearance on MSNBC:

"This is a really bad sign for Barack Obama to try to change Washington.... He needs bipartisan solutions. They went for it and they came up with zero....(This) does not bode well for a future that is supposed to be post-partisan. <...>

"(Obama) could have gone for centrist compromises. You can say to your own party, 'Sorry, some of you liberals aren't going to like it, but I am going to change this legislation radically to get a big centrist majority rather than an all-Democratic vote.' He chose not to do that, that's the exact path that George Bush took for most of his presidency with disastrous consequences for bipartisanship and solving big problems."


It's hard to overstate how foolish this analysis is.

Halperin believes, for reasons that are unclear, that the paramount goal was to win the support of lawmakers who were wrong and who were advocating bad ideas. It's not about what works, or what would actually improve the economy in the midst of a serious recession. What really matters is "bipartisan solutions." Why? Because Mark Halperin says so. Merit be damned -- if Democrats liked the legislation and Republicans didn't, it's necessarily flawed.

In our reality, Obama did make "centrist compromises," and liberals in the Democratic Party didn't like it. Obama did the opposite of Bush's style of governing -- he engaged the congressional minority, listened to their ideas, and weakened his own bill to garner a larger majority. House Republicans insisted on a worse bill, Democrats wouldn't give them one, so the GOP voted against it. Halperin inexplicably believes that's Obama's fault.

I'm trying to wrap my head around Halperin's logic here. By his reasoning, the only appropriate thing for Obama to do was let Republicans -- who failed at governing, and who've been rejected by voters -- shape the bill, addressing the crisis they helped create. If the far-right House GOP caucus was unsatisfied, it was Obama's responsibility to make them happy. Why? Because Mark Halperin says so.

This is absurd.


Kos:

Mark Halperin is still a moron.

I know this is a difficult concept for the Broder-wannabee-"bipartisan" fetishists, but there are good ideas, and bad ideas. And it's clear that the GOP was full of nothing but bad ideas, since they're the ones that brought us to where we are today.

So if you've got two parties that fundamentally disagree on how to solve our nation's problems (including one that created said problems), it's not better to take the good ideas, take the bad ideas, and somehow "meet in the center". That doesn't make the "good" ideas any better. In fact, it makes them worse. It's simple logic anywhere but inside the Broder/Halperin world.

<...>

Update: Listen to John Kerry:

Sen. John Kerry says Democrats should ignore Republicans’ demands about the stimulus plan if they’re going to vote against it anyway.

Reacting to Wednesday night’s vote in the House -- where not a single GOP member supported the stimulus package -- Kerry told Politico that “if Republicans aren’t prepared to vote for it, I don’t think we should be giving up things, where I think the money can be spent more effectively.”

If they’re not going to vote for it, let’s go with a plan that we think is going to work.

The Massachusetts Democrat and 2004 president candidate suggested tossing some of the tax provisions in the stimulus that the GOP requested. “Those aren’t job creators immediately, and even in the longer term they’re not necessarily. We’ve seen that policy for the last eight years,” he said.




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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:23 PM
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1. thanks
I didn't know much about Halperin and now I'm glad that I didn't.

Go Kerry!
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:33 PM
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2. Halperin...still a massive tool and ding dong after all these years.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:15 PM
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10. Yup. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:34 PM
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3. He is
He basically said this morning on The Schmoe that Rush Limbaugh represents a problem for Obama because he's standing in the way of bipartisanship. John Heilemann of New York magazine corrected him and said, no, if the Republicans are going to follow Rush Limbaugh off a cliff, it's a problem for them. Halperin's not used to being corrected by one of his "inferiors" and it stung. Good.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:40 PM
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9. I sure like the sound of him being stung.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:52 PM
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4. Re: Kerry. Ricky Nelson said it best in 1972
From "Garden Party"

"But it's all right now, I've learned my lesson well.
"You see, you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself"

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:06 PM
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6. How sweet
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 07:10 PM by Cha
it is.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:59 PM
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5. "bipartisan" fetishists -yep, there are a lot of those around
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 07:04 PM by depakid
right here on DU.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:18 PM
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7. k and r
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:19 PM
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8. k&r
great stuff today
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