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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:44 PM
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What President Barack Obama Won't Do....
He won't react or do things the way that most in the press or on blogs expect.

So speculations about what "Might" happen "IF" are for naught.

In truth, none of us truly know what he will do for sure or what will happen due
to his actions and words.

I will guarantee that the Obama Administration have thought about what they are doing and saying,
and have taken into consideration the possibility of various reactions, including those of a biased press corp.

.....and I guarantee that those attempting to foretell the future will be proven wrong,
just about everytime, except for when they are extremely lucky.

and you know what?
I'm loving it.

The last President was so predictable, if not disappointing everytime,
that this is like an ocean's cool mint breath over a simmering odious garbage dump.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:45 PM
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1. He's never going to give us up.
He's never going to let us down.
He's never going to run around and hurt us.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:47 PM
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2. Did you just Rick Roll us?
:kick:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:47 PM
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3. You know the rules, and so do I.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:49 PM
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5. President Barack Obama is remaking the Rules......
That's the beauty of a President who is neither prepackaged nor Rick rollable! :rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:47 PM
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4. Hey, that sounds familiar.....
Unlike how President Obama works.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:52 PM
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6. I'm liking this, too - enjoying it
And what cracked me up was Boehner acting like some little kid "tattling" on the Dems - "Daddy, daddy! Those kids don't play fair!" It cracked me up.

Watching the president going into the meetings, I imagine him using the same tried and true techniques he used in community groups. People are people and we're all vulnerable in the hands of a skillful negotiator.

The Repubs may get some of what they want, but in the end Obama is the president and his Party is in the majority. One last hope I have is that the Repubs have to bring in the cots and thermos bottles if they dare utter a peep about filibustering.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:55 PM
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7. I hope you're right, FC. I fear that he'll be steamrolled over by the Republicans
and allow himself to be bullied. I see a lot of appeasement and capitulation right now and not enough leadership.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:58 PM
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8. Well whatever you are saying now, just make sure to also post when you are proven incorrect.
I believe that this President requires that we start thinking in a new way,
not the regular old CW, which is what you are using.

I'm sure you probably insisted that he needed to hit John McCain harder during the GE as well, hey?
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:00 PM
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10. No. I want to be incorrect. I want to be proven totally wrong, but it doesn't seem that way right
now. He doesn't need to give any further concessions to the Republicans. The Dems have already provided enough. Still not enough spending for the infrastructure; more money for tax cuts that we cannot afford to appease the Republicans. That's enough.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:04 PM
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12. You say....."but it doesn't seem that way right now...."
It usually doesn't "Seem" that way until it does.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:07 PM
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14. Again, I hope I'm totally wrong. I'm rooting for President Obama and that he knows
exactly what he's doing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:08 PM
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17. Good!
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:00 PM
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9. Obama will call their bluff. They aren't used to that.
He's already done it as a Senator.

He had a bill that was threatened with defeat by some GOP members. He put it on the Senate floor for a vote, daring them to vote against it. The blustery rhetoric from the right stopped when it came time to put their vote where their mouths were. They voted for it, even though they disparaged it all the way.

Hmm... just like a few of Obama's cabinet appointments right?
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:04 PM
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13. LS 71, please cite some examples of Obama's "appeasement and capitulation" cause
I'm not seeing that.

Where has he appeased and capitulated? Or is that just a different way of saying you haven't agreed with some of his decisions. I think he is doing a good job of standing firm.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:10 PM
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19. There are several instances come to mind...
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 02:24 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
1. Scaled back funding for infrastructure financing to help create jobs because Republicans didn't want that.
2. Increased money for tax cuts that, in my opinion, we cannot afford, but because Republicans wanted them.

I believe that last night's Rachel Maddow's show outlined these capitulations to the Republicans from Obama and the Democrats. I'm not saying don't compromise; I'm hoping that the Dems will stand firm and not capitulate to the Republicans on every issue. Apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way; there has been plenty of discussion on these issues.

ETA: Add to that...

3. No funding for family planning.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:32 PM
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21. When was 1 & 2 done?
I recall the original package, and it is Obama, not badgered by the GOP that increased business tax cuts into the package.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28509803/?__source=aol%7Cheadline%7Cquote%7Ctext%7C&par=aol

Those were then taken out: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/12/AR2009011203298.html

Meaning the package went back to being what it was prior to the cuts being added and then taken out.

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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:49 PM
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25. Here's an example of what I'm talking about...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/27/obama-doesnt-defend-house_n_161356.html

Ryan Grim
Obama Doesn't Defend House Dems
January 27, 2009 02:51 PM

Republicans complained loudly to President Obama during a closed-door meeting Tuesday that House Democrats had shut them out of the process of writing the stimulus bill, said Republican members in the meeting.

The room burst into applause at the mention of congressional Democrats' alleged lack of bipartisan outreach. Obama did not come to their defense - a silence that many took to mean he acknowledged that lack of comity.

"I think the House Democrats have failed at bipartisanship, and I think he acknowledged that by what he didn't say as opposed to what he did," said Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.).

"He didn't say anything, but we got the message," said Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.).

Obama debated House Republicans on differences in political philosophy for more than half an hour. If the purpose was to pick up votes for the House stimulus package in the short term, the visit to the Capitol was largely a failure, several Republicans said.

Obama did tell Republicans, said Bachus, that he would "consider more tax cuts," but defended the amount of cuts in the current bill. He also made the case for the heavy spending, using historical examples going back to the Great Depression to argue that government spending was necessary to turn the economy around.

"That's going to be a gulf," said Bachus of the divide over taxes and spending, "but it starts with communication and the visit today was a very big first step."

Indeed, both interlocutors are taking a longer view. Obama hopes to keep the GOP from outright revolt and House Republicans hope to make congressional Democrats appear partisan and out of step with a more conciliatory president.

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More at link...
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:02 PM
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11. Your post is filled with lulz!
'none of us truly know what he will do for sure'

'I will guarantee'

'and I guarantee'

'those attempting to foretell the future will be proven wrong'

:rofl:

LOL Maybe someone who's had a little less caffeine?

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:07 PM
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15. Please go on......
lulz: Often used to denote humor at another person's expense. Can be used as a noun — e.g. "for the lulz" ("for laughs"/"for the hell of it"). According to a New York Times article about Internet trolling, "lulz means the joy of disrupting another's emotional equilibrium."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL

I've had one cup thus far.....
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:08 PM
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16. The Republicans are like (beetles when you turn them onto their backs)
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 02:09 PM by Rosa Luxemburg
they lie there and their legs are waving in the air. Obama won't entirely squish them but he will just keep flipping them over again onto their backs. No one can predict what he will do next.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:09 PM
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18. I Love the visual on that!
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:23 PM
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20. Frenchie Cat: the last ten minutes or so of Amy's show yesterday
was an interview with a friend and colleague of Obama's mom. I think you'd enjoy it:

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/26/exclusive_yes_magazines_fran_korten_on

:hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:00 PM
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22. I thank you so much for that! It was utterly fascinating.
It appears that he comes from good stock. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:08 PM
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23. Ann sounds like a super cool lady that I would have loved to know. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:24 PM
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24. She really does. I believe we will get to know her through her son.....
as she certainly left her good mark in many ways on this good earth.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:52 PM
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26. I too find reacting to what he might do exhausting ... and pointless. n/t
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