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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:54 PM
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Poll: Caroline Kennedy to blame for Clinton replacement process


CNN) — More than three times as many New Yorkers in a new poll blame Caroline Kennedy and her team for the messy process surrounding the search for Hillary Clinton’s Senate replacement than fault the state’s governor, David Paterson — although, on balance, his final selection meets with their approval.

Forty-nine percent of voters surveyed in a Quinnipiac University poll released Monday said Kennedy and her advisers were to blame, to 15 percent who pointed to Paterson. Twelve percent blame both, and 24 percent are undecided.

Overall, the state’s voters approve of Paterson’s selection of Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand, backing the pick 46 to 30 percent, with 24 percent undecided. That margin is higher upstate, where the choice of the Albany-born Gillibrand draws the approval of 55 percent of the region’s voters to 25 percent who disapprove. In New York City, that margin is far smaller: there, the conservative Democrat draws the approval of 41 percent to 34 percent who disapprove. But in the state’s suburbs, her edge falls within the survey’s 3 point margin of error: 35 percent approve, 32 percent do not.

The mother of two draws higher support from men than women in the survey: Women approve of her selection by a 44 to 31 percent margin, while men back her by 19 points, 48 to 29 percent. And the Democrat draws far more support from Republicans than she does from members of her own party — GOP voters approve of her selection by a 56 to 27 percent margin. Among Democrats, Gillibrand is backed by 41 percent to 35 percent who disapprove. Forty-nine percent of independent voters support her, to 21 percent who do not.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/26/poll-caroline-kennedy-to-blame-for-clinton-replacement-process/
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:56 PM
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1. In Other Words, 51% of New Yorkers Blame Someone Other Than Caroline Kennedy
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 02:57 PM by NashVegas
And 49%, after reading 6 weeks of negative coverage about Kennedy, don't.

Funny how people still feel the need to trash her, even though she won't be getting the seat.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:57 PM
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3. 27% blame someone other than her. 24% don't care.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:59 PM
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7. Okay. 51% Don't Think She's Solely Responsible, And/Or Care
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:57 PM
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2. No, she's not. Paterson is responsible. He's captain of the ship. Not CK.
It's everybody's fault but Paterson's:

It's Hillary's fault.
It's Bubba's fault.
It's Caroline K's fault.

No, it's Paterson's fault.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:27 PM
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17. Paterson sent a message to Obama administration. Don't muscle NY.
Kennedy supported Obama in primary. He can appoint her ambassador to somewhere.
As a senator she could not be counted upon to push NY interests over those of Obama administration plus Gillibrand has demonstrated a great work ethic, as Schumer has pointed out. Kennedy is very accomplished but in a different way.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:57 PM
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4. overall, I think Gov. Patterson is more to blame. He could have made a selection weeks ago
he didn't have to wait until Hillary was confirmed. Other governors did so. For instance in CO and DE, the governors announced their selections before Biden and Salazar were sworn in/ confirmed.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:58 PM
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6. That's right. If he wanted CK, he should have picked her. It's that simple.
But he wants to run for election to Gov. in two years and was weighing the costs/benefits of the nomination to himself.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:03 PM
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9. And In So Doing
He may have fucked himself quite badly.

The worst thing he did was try to force her out with that "family problems" announcement. He should have made the necessary phone calls, and gone straight to the press. If she truly couldn't handle being passed over and wanted to make a statement of voluntary withdrawal, he should have given her X hours to do so and if she hadn't made a statement by then, made his choice known. She's a big girl.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM
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12. That's right. He was in the driver's seat all the way. The accidental gov. had an accident.
CK could have brought some unique assets to the seat. He could have appointed a placeholder and let a primary contest play out. There are a lot of interesting folks interested in the job. NYS is bluer than it was 20 years ago. No more Alfonse D'Amato, etc.

He did wrong by both CK and the people of NYS - AND himself.

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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:58 PM
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5. They vote the media's line and poll questioning
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:03 PM
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8. meet Governor ACCIDENT of New York.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:06 PM
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10. Another misleading axe-grinding anti-Caroline Kennedy OP for you... I think that's 45 of them now?
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 03:08 PM by ClarkUSA
I can't wait until you dump on Gillibrand if she dares run against Hillary in 2016... remember, she wants
"to walk in Hillary's footsteps"... Pepto-Bismol, anyone?

:rofl:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM
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13. Another misleading axe-grinding anti-Clinton post from you... I think that's 1,045 of them now?
See? Anybody can play that game.

:shrug:

Ciao, caro......

:*




:rofl:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:19 PM
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16. oops! You didn't consider ClarkUSA's feelings before you made your OP.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:47 PM
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21. Oh, Clark is OK.
He's just a curmudgeon and can't get off the "I hate the Clintons" groove. I'm sure that otherwise, to quote his favorite candidate, he's "likeable enough".......

:eyes:


:D
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:53 PM
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30. It's so weird, because Gen. Clark is tight with the Clintons.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:41 PM
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35. Yeah, but he doesn't
C'est la vie............

:shrug:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:54 PM
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22. Wrong again. How many anti-Clinton OPs have I ever made since 2003? Answer: Not many at all.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 04:09 PM by ClarkUSA
You, on the other hand, have made a minor DU career of anti-Caroline OPs. It's the only consolation you have for Hillary
losing to the man Caroline endorsed in such a timely manner, isn't it?


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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:58 PM
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25. I personally got nothing against Caroline.
I just didn't think that she deserved a senate seat just for being a Kennedy and having endorsed Obama. She's never ran for elected office in her life and by her own choice. There are far more qualified candidates for the job. If she wants to be senator that bad, then she can run in 2010 and let the people in NY decide who they want to be their senator.

:shrug:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:08 PM
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26. And there's a bridge in Brooklyn you want to sell me, too, right?
:eyes:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:34 PM
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34. O ye of little faith......................
:eyes:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:04 PM
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31. U-G-L-Y you ain't got no alibi, you ugly!
And all that other cheerleader stuff.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:13 PM
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15. I think this post makes the people of NYS look stupid. Not Caroline K. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM
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Are you the Governor's Chief of Staff?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:13 PM
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14. Nope,
but thanks for asking twice.

;)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM
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11. Are you the Governor's Chief of Staff?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:31 PM
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18. I think the media is 90% responsible.
The Gov was correct to not announce until Hillary was confirmed, and CKS had every right to explore the option. The media tried to push Paterson, and create some Caroline vs Cuomo DRAMA in the process.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:34 PM
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19. Conflict sells, they're always making up blood feuds. nt
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:36 PM
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20. You're right. Just look at CHuck Todd saying in Morning Joe that Gillibrand
will cost NY a lot of $$$$ and not explaining himself why....
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:00 PM
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23. Yup. Paterson talked about his process in the presser announcing the pick.
Sounded like he did a good job of soliciting opinions of those in NY politics that could help inform his decision, while looking at the policy positions of those under consideration.

Gillibrand mentioned that she and two or three of her house colleagues were all wishing each other luck just prior to the selection. It appeared to me that they knew who was under consideration.

The media did what the media does. I'm always surprised to see so much credence given here to what they run with.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:00 PM
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24. Gee - who would ORDER a poll on THAT? Fascist poll firm Quinnipiac was directed by SOMEONE
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 04:00 PM by blm
for the ongoing smear campaign.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:10 PM
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33. Hiring a Bush loyalist to sabotage Kennedy apparently wasn't enough.
And the nasty smear campaign continues with this bullshit polling.

Gov. Paterson's decision to go nuclear on Caroline Kennedy was a hatchet job run by a pricey out-of-state consultant who specializes in political scandals, disgruntled administration sources said. Judy Smith, a Washington-based PR guru and former Bush White House deputy press secretary, orchestrated the ill-conceived character attack on Kennedy, sources said Sunday.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/26/2009-01-26_hired_pr_gun_doomed_caroline_insiders_sa.html
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:12 PM
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27. Bullshit
She was torpedoed by the Clintons because she endorsed Obama and not Billary. I'm sure Bill called up the Gov. and made the deal, put in somebody other then Caroline, and at that a former Clinton staffer, and he'll get their support when it's time to run.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:52 PM
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29. Bullshit back at you.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:32 PM
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28. At least in my neck of the woods...
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 05:39 PM by cherish44
a great many of people who vote Republican do so because of ONE issue...guns. That's all they care about. Guns are more important to them than their jobs, the economy, schools, taxes....ANYTHING. I don't know many left leaning types who cite guns as what they care about above all other issues. I think she'll vote with the good guys on what matters most. I know NY is a very liberal state but I think she'll perform in a way that makes both sides pretty happy. (fingers crossed) I kind of think Gillibrand is who Hillary wanted all along...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:09 PM
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32. Useless. Poll conducted before the news that Paterson hired a Bushie to smear Kennedy
More here.

Patterson is despicable.





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