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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:36 PM
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CNN Jeffrey Tubing-Toobin craps all over Obama Inaugural
Somebody made the mistake over there of asking Toobin to bloviate on the inaugural and he pooped all over Barack saying that it contained "nothing original that was comperable to JFK "Ask not.." and some other inane example. Horse pucky Jeffie. Just read it, baby.

Transcript FYI

Last night I watch JFK and Ronald Ray-gun's and the latter was ideological twaddle, believe me. Barack's was sincere and even eleoquent, I would say. He needs to do some reading and watch his CSpan.org before bloviating again. :nopity:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:37 PM
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1. Send him this thread!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:37 PM
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2. My new sig line
They just don't get it.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:38 PM
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3. Toobin is a great journalist when he works for the New Yorker. As a TV pundit... not so much.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:38 PM
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4. I am conflicted. I think it was a good speech, but wasn't comparable to the greats because it had
no memorable lines.

Someone did point out, however, that while it wasn't necessarily a timeless speech, it was probably one of the best speeches anyone could give to fit this exact period in time. That in itself may just make it timeless.
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:44 AM
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9. Someone said the speech was "businesslike"
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 06:47 AM by sfpcjock
which I liked and thought kind of fit well. We need a lot of no-drama businesslike re-regulation and investments from goverment now as the employer of last resort. It's not real glitzy stuff like saying "we will pay any price, defend any ally..." like Kennedy, but Barack said some of that stuff too. It wasn't thin, I really felt it was just right for the times and who he is. That's why I disagree totally with Tubin'. I kind of think he's a jerk now.

Kennedy was too theatrical and went right into a very ill-considered action in Bay of Pigs which led in turn to near nuclear anniliation when Russia sent missiles to Cuba.

Ray-gun got it ALL wrong. Just because the Fed RAISED rates when they should have been smart enough to drop them, the economy looked bad with 21% interest rates when he came in. Then, he DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what he said he would do in not "running up the government's charge accounts by borrowing a lot of money irresponsibly". That was sick. Ray-gun took it the Fed-caused economic problems to mean that government was the problem in everything and that EVERYTHING had to be deregulated. He took a snotty and horrible approach to unions and the air traffic controllers firing. Ray-gun's was the worst inaugural of all time on a par with Buchanon's, I guess, because it was so completely phony, Hollywood and utterly false, yet it "sounded good".
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:38 PM
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5. Stop yer yacking CNN and let us watch the parade !!
Those Nez Perc were cool !!!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:39 PM
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6. The deal with Ronald Reagan's 1981 inaugural speech...
Was that the parts that were good were not original, and the parts that were originally were not good.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:40 PM
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7. I loved Obama's speech but few are as well informed as Toobin
and I don't think anyone wll ever top Kennedy's. But of all the speeches Obama has given, I think this was the best. Very well done.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:48 PM
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8. What struck me about the speech
was how sober and sobering it was and how little triumphalism it had in it.

Obama strikes me as a man who realizes full well the size of the burdens now resting on his shoulders, He seems to me deeply humbled in the face of them.

I like that. If you go back to Kennedy's speech and listen to it in the light of subsequent history, you can see that he both underestimated the size of the challenges facing our country and overestimated the wisdom with which we could confront them.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 07:28 AM
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10. I thought that it was a forceful condemnation of the Bush administration.
Obama reaffirmed what this nation stands for. The rule of law and that no "emergency" could be used as an excuse for not adhering to the principles spelled out in our Constitution. He made it very clear that he was inheriting a nation that has been seriously damaged by the Bush-Cheney mismanagement of our country. Both Bush and Cheney are so damn delusional that they can not accept the fact that they will be judged as one of the most pitiful administrations in the history of the Republic.
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