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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:08 PM
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CNN: WH will NOT investigate NG memos
Isn't that interesting. The WH has no interest in looking into what the GOP claims are forgeries of documents casting aspersions on the commander in chief --- forgeries that would constitute a criminal action by the forger.

Olbermann: "How many rats do you smell?"
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:10 PM
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1. A common sense deduction: They're not investigating them because
they know they're true.

All CNN has to do is show documents from the Pentagon which have the same subscripts that the White House considers authentic. End game.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:37 PM
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10. fine...let's move onto AWOLs' record on healthcare, budgets and
environment...

And..his failure to protect the US on 911 after the 8/6/01 PDB
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:10 PM
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2. they don't have to, the damage is done
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bob reynolds Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:11 PM
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3. everyone else is..
this way they can get the benefit but stay 'above the fray'
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:11 PM
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4. If only they would deny it. Otherwise the WH must be hoping
maybe this will go away if they ignore it? I dont' see that there is any other choice for Rove et al. If it takes them off message they will pay dearly for it.
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:20 PM
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7. This takes us off message too
Which is what they want
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:32 PM
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9. How?
I thnk this goes towards a lack of core integrity.
Its one of many areas where the Chimp has no defense.
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:47 PM
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12. It takes away from Kerry coverage
I agree it shows chimpy's flaws. I think Kerry's biggest weakness though is a lack of message. When coverage of his campaign speeches gets pushed further and further down he loses the opportunity to get the message out. Instead the news is focusing on debunking memos, that IMHO aren't that important. Now people are questioning the core story - Which doesn't rely on any questionable documents. People on the fence though are saying maybe the whole thing is a non issue, and never get to stick around and hear how Kerry will be better.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:52 PM
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13. The news is not our friend - and corporate owned media won't cover
Kerry unless there is no way out of it. They'd run stories on Barney the dog first.
We are going up against corporate owned media that back the Chimp.
This whole thing was not ever really controlled by the DNC.

Just wondering : do you suppose there ARE any undedideds out there ?

I can't see how that can be. Go figure. For me the message is still ABB
any one but bush.
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 03:40 PM
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14. ABB is my message too
The problem is the election will be decided by the people who aren't paying close attention yet. People who get their news in sound bites. Which leaves us with some huge hills to climb.
1. Media doesn't want Kerry -
2. Kerry isn't very good at sound bites
3. Rove et al are extremely good at sound bites
4. When viewing the news through the sound bite angle discrediting the veracity of the memo's is like chopping one leg off a table. Whether or not the memos are real has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not he showed up for duty. But if people think one part is faked and they don't look for the rest they'll assume the whole thing is.
The media will give campaign coverage. 2 minutes to the memos is 2 minutes that isn't going elsewhere. Yes that coverage will be biased, but they still will show clips of Kerry. If he can put together sound bites about how he's different we can win this thing.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 03:48 PM
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15. The press won't give Kerry access.
I don't think we have anything to lose. Reporters have to be pro Rove or they are cut off. I don't think the DNC has anything to do with this.

ABB, bro
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:19 PM
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5. CBS has asked WH to confirm or deny. No response. That is the Story!
That is where the pressure should be.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:19 PM
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6. The Doc's are definitely TRUE!!!!!!!
:bounce: :toast:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:23 PM
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8. It's the old lawyer story
The defense lawyer, knowing that his client is guilty of the crime he's accused of, weaves a story in his closing argument. He posits an alternative theory of the crime, then with the skill of a storyteller, puts together a plausible argument, detailing the real murderer, what he wore, how he looks, and now, as a surprise to all of you here in the courtroom, I point to the door, and tell you that the real murderer will walk through that door in 10 seconds! Everybody looks at the door expectantly, and . . . nothing happens.

The lawyer then says, you see? You all have a reasonable doubt! You can't convict my client. Then one of the jurors pipes up: You know counselor, I was looking at the door for a second, then I looked at your client. He wasn't looking at the door, either. He knew as well as you did that no one was going to walk through that door. We don't need to look any further for the guilty party in this matter.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 02:38 PM
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11. I guess that proves that the information in them is true.
Otherwise, maybe Bush can give us some more documents that prove that he really did fulfill his commitment? Or maybe he can find some folks that served with him, to vouch for him?

Funny after all these years, you would think that at least one person would have made friends with him? Especially, since he was such an outgoing and friendly guy to begin with?




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