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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:04 PM
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DNC ad "Fortunate Son" posted
Edited on Tue Sep-14-04 12:15 PM by Cocoa
it's a masterpiece.

http://www.democrats.org/fortunateson/index.html


edit to add lyrics, even more brutally relevant now:

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",
oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no senator's son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no,

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman come to the door,
Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no millionaire's son.
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no.

Yeh, some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
ooh, they send you down to war, Lord,
And when you ask them, how much should we give,
oh, they only answer, more, more, more, yoh,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no military son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no no no,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate son, no no no,

- John C, Fogerty
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:07 PM
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1. how come
how come 1/2 of american can't look at this jerk's face and see
what a simpering arrogant asshole he is??
I just don't get it.
Is this a face you can trust??
trust to get us into trouble!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:12 PM
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3. maybe the people have teenage sons
they associate Bush's childish insouciance with their beloved sons. :shrug:

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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:34 PM
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11. teenaged sons
people with teenaged sons even more than others should be able to see through that bs....
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:11 PM
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2. That was actually pretty good
I didn't know what to expect, but it was very well done.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:13 PM
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4. outstanding
.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:14 PM
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5. Great ad
I see that it made Drudge. LOL. My response to the repukes, "Sorry, little repukes, but the truth hurts. Put some ice on it, m'kay?"

:bounce:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:16 PM
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6. Great ad, Good shot of the smirker in chief at the end,lol
Time to pull out the all the stops.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:18 PM
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7. Very, very good!!
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:26 PM
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8. No, its not
Let's be honest; at 2 minutes-30 seconds, this video is never going on TV; the hope is that the media or political junkies will talk it up. That said, it was a waste of time and money to prepare and film this.

Issues of historic character are useful when someone runs for office for the first time; absent a record of public accomplishments, we have to look to past behavior to make a judgement about future behavior. However, once someone is in office, especially that of the Presidency, the focus of voters is on what's been accomplished, or not accomplished during the past term. Historical character only becomes applicable if newly-discovered criminal actions (including lying under oath are identified. Simply saying "he lied to you then" is useless, unless you lay out a pattern of continued lying when in office. Saying "he lied before becoming President, he lied while President, he'll lie to you again" would be effective; this video doesn't offer that message.

Those voters who are still undecided are presumably unhappy about life today (or they'd be supporting the President in larger numbers) but not so riled up that political issues like this one are important. What IS important to them are security, the fate of their friends and relatives in the military, their jobs, medical costs and financial future. These are the issues which, I would argue, the Kerry campaign has not clearly stated policies which are understandable to the voters as being different from and better than those of Bush-Cheney. Staff time spent on this video was staff time spent NOT putting together ads on these issues. With 6 months to go, and Kerry behind in the polls (by how much isn't the issue), his team can't afford to get distracted.

"The Economy, Stupid"
"Change vs. more of the Same"
"Don't forget Health Care"

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:47 PM
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13. Agreed.
Time needs to be spent hammering this idiot on his mistakes and negligence over the last 3 years -- not for his idiocy over all of the last 35.

Whether or not we should have gone into Iraq, it is clear that this moron and his henchman screwed it up horribly. Discarded post-war planning by the State Department, opted for insufficient forces in order to prove a bullshit military theory of the Secretary of Defense (at the needless expense of American and Iraqi lives), and remain "steadfast" in their incompetence.

Every minute spent talking about Bush's lack of service in the Guard is time lost that could have been spent talking about his miserable failures as President.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:55 PM
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17. they have to do both
which they're doing.

Attacking his record in office, and also attacking the biggest hole in any president's background, which has been covered up in every previous campaign.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:26 PM
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9. who's the ad for though?
It was way too long for TV and honestly if it's just going to stay on the Internet I don't think it will accomplish much...because we already know it. This type of ad has to appeal to the TV audience and break them out of their complacency. At the current length and pace it doesn't do that.

Not saying I don't like it...I do. But I think it needs to get a lot more pop in 20 seconds than it had in the minute or whatever that it had. Maybe instead of the ponderous voice over it should just play the song and flash up the words over the screen like a TBTM flash...Symbolman should have a full time job doing these for the DNC. At this point I just want to see fast, pointed, and clear ads that nail the point home in short enough bursts that they can be absorbed between Monday Night Football plays...because SADLY that's the attention span of the average voter these days.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 01:13 PM
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22. Agree...was exactly my thought as well
Who is the audience for this?

Certainly not undecideds at that length.

Don't get me wrong, *I* LOVED it.

But I'm a COMMITTED Kerry voter.

I hope they re-edit a 30 second version to air on television
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 01:07 PM
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20. John Kerry is NOT going to be giving a concession speech.
From the communications I have had with the DNC, they DO NOT think all voters are morons. The comeback is occurring as we speak.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:38 PM
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12. They should POUND the airwaves with it!
IT ROCKS!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:48 PM
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14. I wish this could be aired on the networks like the Moveon Hitler ad was
or the swiftboat liars ads were, but it will be ignored. UNLESS, someone sends it to Keith Olbermann! :evilgrin:

Excellent ad, BTW!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:51 PM
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15. I, for one...
.....appreciate very much the dig that the title and the theme sends to Karl Rove. "Fortunate Son" was, of course, the book authored by James Hatfield, who was "suicided" after being used by Rove to innoculate Bush against cocaine charges.

I think it's a poke in Rove's eye, and a challenge.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:53 PM
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16. this ad is powerful
It will remain in the minds of people, I am sure.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:57 PM
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18. Anyone see this CNN article about the "Fortunate Son"?
Bush's Harvard Professor speaks out now, stating that he recalls a conversation with Bush in which Bush admitted that he was a "Fortunate Son" and was given preferential treatment to get into the National Guard. Incredibly, Bush was nonetheless a strong supporter of the Vietnam war, according to the Professor.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/bush.professor/
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 01:01 PM
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19. this is quite good
factual and hard hitting.
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