I don't really believe this, but it HAS crossed my mind.

[Syrinx]

First, I was overjoyed that Obama was elected. I actually cried a little on election night.

But, just, what if, it was all orchestrated by the same people that orchestrate everything else?

What if the assholes that run the country (ie. the Bush family; read Russ Baker's new book) decided that it was a bad year for the GOP brand, and they decided it would be a good time to recruit black voters into their bloc?

What if Obama is the guy that they've recruited and groomed over the years? And they managed to make him seem, through the election process, to be associated with dangerous radical elements, like Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers? And yet he won the election anyway?

That would obviously disprove all the conspiracy talk about stolen elections. A black man is elected president? The people are really speaking up! Rah rah!

I disagree with that hypothesis, but it explains the general attitude toward the president-elect here on Democratic Underground.

It is a new phenomenon. It is a phenomenon I'm uncomfortable with.

I support President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama.

He is going to bring greatness back to this country, in my estimation. Or, at least, he will try.

None of us will like everything that he does, nor every official he appoints, nor every ultimately meaningless gesture he makes.

Obama will reach across the aisles in order to do his job. And we should give him the elbow room to do so.

Let the man do his job. Let's not cripple the man in the name of petty identify politics.

Let the man to rise to the occasion, to lead us out of the greatest economic crisis that we have ever faced as a nation, that any of us can remember.

Plus, I would favor going after, judicially, every goddamn member of the Bush family for what they have done to this country.

[Heidi]

1. They, who can't find their asses with both hands and a flashlight,

could not coordinate the sort of conspiracy you've suggested. I do think there are maybe people who _could_ do that, but the GOP as it exists today is not among them. Just my opinion.

:hi: Syrinx!

[Syrinx]

5. hi Heidi!

You know I'm still jealous. :)

[Heidi]

7. Jealous of our beautiful, tropical weather?

You can cut that out now. :rofl:

Here's a photo of the field across the road from us yesterday. :scared:

[JimGinPA]

2. Pineapple Express?

This OP kind of reminds me of the kind of "what ifs" I used to hear from people I used to smoke pot with.

[Syrinx]

3. I never smoked pot.

But I did kilograms of acid.

[Heidi]

4. What do the people you now smoke pot with say?

:rofl:

Kidding, kidding. :hi: Jim!

[JimGinPA]

6. Shit, The Last Guy I Smoked Pot With...

Was a Repub, and that was before the 2004 election. He was my kid's guitar teacher. You'd think with kids in high school I'd be able to get my hands on some now, but no, they have to hang out with the "jocks".


:banghead:

[Heidi]

8. You maybe need a vacation

in a country with progressive pot laws. Just sayin'. ;)

[JimGinPA]

10. Thread Hijack - I Went To College In Ann Arbor Shortly After They "Decriminalized" Possession...

If I was out of dope, and none of my friends or neighbors had anything, all I had to do was go down to the bus stop, sit on the bench and wait for somebody to pass a joint around.


:hi:

[Heidi]

11. When I was in college in Oklahoma,

all ya had to do was go to a frat party. That's a high price to pay for free weed, though. :rofl:

[Zynx]

9. I would first have to believe all of the conspiracy crap about 9/11 and the '04 election

to believe this. The fact of the matter is that both of those events more or less are what they first appear to be. The 2004 election was not theft, though the Republicans did and always do engage in voter suppression. The polling reflected exactly what happened just as it did this year. You only come to the conclusion of election fraud if you begin with the assumption of fraud and you look for evidence that only supports that conclusion. The truth is that pre-election polling very accurately reflected the 2004 vote just as it did in 2008.

These grand conspirators, if they really do exist, are terrible at management. If they are terrible at management, despite near apparent omnipotence, that makes no sense. I frankly think these conspiracy theories are attempts to make sense out of random human activity.

[crikkett]

12. "explaining the general attitude towards the president-elect here on DU"

My theory, not necc. a conspiracy theory: DU's been in opposition for 8 years, it's a hard habit to break.

Furthermore we've been in opposition during an informational revolution... the Internet and this board in particular is an excellent medium for closely watching and analyzing govt (to the extent that it's allowed - hi mods!)

So DU's a petri dish for bitching, evidenced by the number of positive vs. negative news stories that get voted up on the Greatest Page.

:tinfoilhat:

[pnorman]

13. By temperament, I've been a "third party" contrarian all my adult life.

My Political Compass Test results were as follows:
"Economic Left/Right: -7.50, Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.92

That makes me a "Left-Libertarian"; essentially an anarchist. Were I obsessed with intellectual consistency/conformity, I'd be totally indifferent to which candidate should get elected. But I'm NOT. Although I "felt good" in the elector victories of FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton, until now the CLOSEST to being a heart-felt supporter of a "mainstream" Democratic candidate was for Dennis Kucinich. But color me naive or addled with age, but I have NEVER been as inspired by anyone else as I've been by Barack Obama! And that was a late attachment, beginning (by degrees) about last April or May.

I believe that he knows what is wrong with this Nation, and is determined to mend it. I also believe that he has a very clear idea of all the third Rails in our political system, and will avoid them at all costs. If he's rendered politically impotent, all the best intentions in the world would mean absolutely NOTHING! And as we all know, some of the most powerful forces in this country are prepared to do just that --- just as soon as it becomes politically practical. When his approval rating drops below about 70%, the knives will be unsheathed. GUARANTEED!

Accordingly, I'm prepared to cut him as much slack as possible in all his actions, statements and appointment until clearly shown otherwise. Risky? Do I stand a good chance of becoming what I've despised call my life -- a blind follower of a phony messiah? I'll take that chance, and I urge all others here to consider doing the same.

pnorman

[Solomon]

14. Nah. The attitude that you see here regarding Obama is because

he is black. I know, I know, people here think they are prgressive, but it's the same kind of shit that black quarterbacks and black managers everywhere have had to go through: constant second guessing about their decisions and actions.

Flame away!

[dionysus]

15. huffing glue is bad, hmmkay?

:)