I need help!

[chester2003]

A guy at work says Kerry didn't complete his military service. Says he got out early and didn't do any reserve duty! I looked at all the docs on Kerry's web site and it seems he joined the Navy Reserve for a 5 or 6 year commitment. After two years went to Vietnam and then went back to the States as an aide to an Admiral. Then got out early to run for office. That is where I need help. Kerry had a commitment with the Naval Reserve, but there are no docs to show his reserve duty! How do I put this guy in his place? What are the facts? Thanks..

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Did Bush volunteer for Vietnam?

Doh! :beer:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. It's the duty of the guy at work to prove it to you

Tell him to pny up the facts and prove it.

[chester2003]

6. Thats the point

Kerry's own web site doesn't show what he did when he came home! So what is the truth?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. No it's not the point..ask that guy to demonstrate where he gets

his facts. It isn't our job to disprove every fucking crackpot unless they make their case...have him do like 60 Minutes and put the evidence out for all to see.

[newsguyatl]

3. heh heh

;-)


:hi:

[LisaL]

4. Ask the guy

if he can prove to you where Bush was at the time.

[Eric J in MN]

5. Kerry served in the US Navy for 3 1/2 years. Where is the proof

he needed to do reserve duty?

[chester2003]

10. Yes

Kerry signed on for 5 or 6 years of reserve duty. But after he came home he didn't do any reserve duty according to his web site. What is the real story?

[athena]

8. Kerry's full service timeline:

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/service_timeline.html

I believe that you're allowed to go back home after getting a certain number of wounds.

[chester2003]

11. I know but..

He still had 2+ years left on his reserve commitment. Where is the proof he did it? This is the point of my question and i need an answer to prove this guy wrong.

[athena]

16. No he didn't.

Can you read?

February 1966 - March 1967: Kerry enlists in Navy and participates in training
June 1967 - July 1968: Kerry serves on USS Gridley
July 1968 - November 1968: more training to be commander of swift boat
November 1968 - April 1969: Kerry serves in Vietnam
April 1969 - March 1970: Kerry serves at Military Sea Transportation Service, U.S. Atlantic Fleet in Brooklyn, NY
January 3, 1970: Kerry requests discharge
March 1, 1970: Kerry’s date of separation from Active Duty
April 29, 1970: Kerry listed as Registrant who has completed service

You seem to me to be a troll. First you claim some nonsense about Kerry's service and then keep asking "what's the truth", "what's the story", as if Kerry had anything to hide.

[athena]

18. Furthermore,

From "Kerry's Military Records Show a Highly Praised Officer", ASSOCIATED PRESS
http://www.inreview.com/archive/topic/19605.html

In April 1969, Kerry was sent stateside to the Military Sea Transportation Service, U.S. Atlantic Fleet, in Brooklyn, N.Y. On Nov. 21, 1969, Kerry requested that he be released from his commitment to serve actively until August 1970 so that he could run for Congress.

He was promoted to full lieutenant on Jan. 1, 1970, and soon after was discharged from active duty and became a reservist.

Your nonsense about how he had to serve several more years is utter bullshit. His commitment was only until August, and he left in March, "as Registrant who has completed service"

Go troll elsewhere.

[seabeyond]

9. kerry appears to be a rule follower, bush not

i dont have the answer for you, but i can guarentee you whatever he did was legit. good luck finding the answer

what i would suggest if someone said this to me, look em in the eye and tell him, he served and he did it with honor. he saved lives, that was his job of commander of his swift boat. he was willing to take that heavy responsiblity. i dont have the answer, but doesnt much matter to me. you want me to go thru and tell you all the reason, be more than happy too

[bigtree]

12. Kerry Military Records Online

WASHINGTON, April 21 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Kerry Campaign announced today that online at http://www.johnkerry.com are the official Naval records and the after-action combat reports that are part of the public record at the Naval Historical Center, Operational Archives Branch in Washington, DC.



What follows is a summary list of the pages on the website and a summary of the after-action combat reports.

The direct address for the official Naval records is:

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html

The direct address for the after-action combat reports is:

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/combat_reports.html

-- John Kerry's Official Naval Records

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

19. paging chester2003 please come to the white courtesy keyboard

[kentuck]

13. You are on reserve but you don't have to do reserve duty.....

If you have served active duty for 4 years -- or even if you got the early out after coming back from Nam... Just as I served 3 years in the Army and I was still on reserve for 3 years but I was not required to go to any "reserve training"...

[RetroLounge]

14. "I need help!"

That about sums it up...

RL

[shraby]

15. My son was in the Army in the 1980s and

when he was released he was still technically in the reserves for a period of years. Didn't need to do any training, but was just supposed to be available in case he got called. I think that's standard. That gives the army a pool of trained people in case of emergency.

[kentuck]

17. When you are a chicken shit like Bush and go into the reserves....

to keep from going on active duty or going to war, then you are required to attend your reserve meetings.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

20. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

:boring:

[benddem]

21. after all that time on active duty

he just needed to complete his status in the inactive reserves. His discharge is dated 1978.

[kentuck]

22. Sounds like somebody doesn't know how the military works??

You don't have to go to reserve training when you have done your active duty time....Tell your friend to study up a little more and come back and tell us if he's making any progress??