Gallup daily: Obama favs jump to 73% -- unfavs down to 17% -- his best numbers so far

[DCBob]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111772/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Favorability.aspx

Amazing numbers but what's with those 17%.

[Freddie Stubbs]

1. Apperently no backlash from the Warren brouhaha

[DCBob]

3. Apparently no backlash from anything.

He is riding a big wave of approval.

[Bjorn Against]

18. Actually there is a huge backlash...

You just don't see it in the approval ratings because most of us who are upset about the decision would still say we are going to support him on many other things. Saying you approve of someone does not mean you approve of every decision they make.

[DCBob]

29. And no president expects everyone to approve of all his decisions.

It's the balancing act of politics. Right now I would say he has very good balance.

[Clio the Leo]

2. Those 17%..........

.... spent most of the day yesterday celebrating the birth of Tripp Palin while dancing to the "Barack the Magic Negro" song.

[DCBob]

4. Ha! No doubt.

I am sure most of those 17 percenters know that stupid song by heart.

[YOY]

5. "The backwash." to quote Colbert.

Obama can never please the backwash. He shouldn't even try.

Disgruntled FReeps, neocon dipshits still in non-acceptance of Reganomic's failure, crotchety old church folks, and other assorted racists.

[DCBob]

7. Agreed. Some will never give in...

ignorant blind bias.

[YOY]

11. Got one at work. He is determined that Obama is already president.

A real economics expert...who has to declare bankrupcy twice and doesn't even understand the foundations of economics when I start refering to simple non-partisan economic terms. No family. Just divorced a woman he knew for weeks before marrying because her adult children were "telling him what to do and getting involved in their decision making."

He is also determined that Reaganomics is Capitalism. I just give him my "Shock jocks are paid millions to tell idiots their opinions."

[kstewart33]

6. The 17% are those who

cannot locate NY or California on a map, and believe that the world is flat, that the Rapture is scheduled for January 20, and that God literally created the earth as we know it in seven days, give or take a day or two.

[DCBob]

8. And as we know some US Americans do not have maps...

and our education such as in South Africa and The Iraq everywhere like such as...

[Peacetrain]

9. What you said.....

to the second power :)

[geek tragedy]

10. That, or they're the Purity Patrol posting CONCERN threads

here at DU.

[Hamlette]

12. The "crazification factor" drops 10 points?

The crazification factor, named for the 27% who voted for Alan Keyes in the Ill Senate race, is going down?

Could be a very good sign for this country. We can deal with 17%, or roughly one in six, much better than more than one is four.

[DCBob]

13. True. I suppose 17% is tolerable and understandable considering..

the nature of this country. I guess we must always expect to have a few wackos in the crowd.

[depakid]

14. The polls aren't measuring anything substantive yet

They're measuring expectations and hope for something substantially different in terms of policy and economic results next year.

It's the Dems ball game now- and they'd better perform up to expectations, or you'll see those numbers drop faster than the stock market last fall....

[DCBob]

28. I think it is measuring Obama's handling of the transition.

That is substantive. BTW, why do you speak of "the Dems" and "they" as if you are not involved?

[depakid]

34. Again- to the extent most anyone's paying attention, Obama hasn't really done anything

other than not be George Bush and not sound like the Republican nutcase Congress, which the vast majority of folks rightly blame for the current dilemmas.

What your poll reveals (to the extent its accurately measuring anything) is the honeymoon phenomenon. Six to eight months down the line, that'll have waned, and you'll get a better idea of how people actually respond to the new administration (and to the Dems in Congress).

So, trying to use these Gallop polls as "proof" about public sentiment regarding Warren- or as to any other criticism about nominees that's come up is spurious. Not only don't the vast majority of people know much about the issues raised (or the policy history of the nominees) -but they're giving Obama and the Congress who can either enable or obstruct his policies the benefit of the doubt.

Given the trepidation thay many have for the future- any other result would be pretty suspect at the moment.

[NJmaverick]

15. Half the 17% are freepers and the other half are liberals, in the DU mold

that think of Obama as a genie, who is suppose to be granting their every wish.

[Bjorn Against]

19. Can you cite a source for your statistic or are you just making it up?

And can you cite a single person who thinks of Obama as a genie that can grant their every wish? Disagreeing on certain actions he takes is not the same as disapproving of him in general, and thinking that he may not be right all the time is not the same as holding some unrealistic expectation that he is a genie that can accomplish every last thing that we wish he could accomplish.

[NJmaverick]

21. You offer up trick questions. You ask me to call out other DUers, knowing full well

that it is clearly against the rules. I would have to say that is a less than honest response.

Still that doesn't mean I have seen a pattern, by many DUers, where all they talk about is what Obama is or isn't doing for themselves. It is a shining example of the me generation.

[Bjorn Against]

23. I never asked you to call out a DUer.

I asked you to cite a single person, nowhere did I specify that they had to be a DUer. That makes your response dishonest, not mine. People have the right to criticize any politician if they don't like certain policies, and it is not always for selfish motivations that they do so despite your broad dismissal of all critics as the "me generation". Many of us standing up to Obama on the Warren decision for example are not gay, we simply recognize that equal rights for all is an important principle and we don't want a bigot to be honored.

[NJmaverick]

26. Well I will give you credit for being a master of semantics

Still

<< I asked you to cite a single person, nowhere did I specify that they had to be a DUer. >>

This one is simply untrue, since I was referring to DUers

<<People have the right to criticize any politician if they don't like certain policies>>


True but that doesn't mean that those exercising that right are correct or reasonable in those criticisms.


<< it is not always for selfish motivations that they do so despite your broad dismissal of all critics as the "me generation". >>

Exceptions do not dispute that majority are selfish and classic examples of the me generations.

<<Many of us standing up to Obama on the Warren decision for example are not gay, we simply recognize that equal rights for all is an important principle >>

This statement creates the impression that those not criticizing Obama don't consider equal rights for all and important principle. You couldn't be further afield of the truth on that one.

<<we don't want a bigot to be honored.>>

Now to the heart of the matter and where the rules of intellectual honesty are grossly violated. First off the idea that Warren is a bigot because his religious beliefs oppose gay marriage, is simply wrong. Our nation badly needs to move past this dishonest practice of slapping labels on anyone and anything. It serves to stifle honest and constructive debate.

Then there is your claim to honor. Many of the more reasoned DUers understand that this is a gesture for unity. We also understand that if you want to exaggerate this gesture into some sort of grand honor, it would be for his work with the poor, Aids and Global warming, not for his opposition to gay marriage.


It's been some time that I had to break down a post, sentence by sentence, but it was the only way to properly address the many views and opinions, I don't agree with.

[Bjorn Against]

27. Well I will break down your post sentence by sentence as well...

"This one is simply untrue, since I was referring to DUers"

No you were not referring to DUers, your post said you were referring to liberals in the mold of DUers. Unless you are suggesting that a few hundred DUers represent more than 8% of the total US population in which case I would encourage you to work on those math skills.

"True but that doesn't mean that those exercising that right are correct or reasonable in those criticisms."

It is not up to you to decide what a correct or reasonable criticism is.


"Exceptions do not dispute that majority are selfish and classic examples of the me generations."

The most frequent criticisms of Obama from the left have related to his stance on broad social issues such as the Iraq War, Afghanistan, and gay marriage. Those are not selfish issues, they are issues of enormous social consequence. On edit: I should also mention his cabinet choices have been grounds for criticism, but again that relates to bigger issues.

"This statement creates the impression that those not criticizing Obama don't consider equal rights for all and important principle. You couldn't be further afield of the truth on that one."

I never suggested such a thing, most people don't even know who Warren is and it would be ridiculous to say that no one who doesn't know who Warren is or doesn't speak about him opposes equal rights. You are reading things into my statement that are quite simply not there.

"Now to the heart of the matter and where the rules of intellectual honesty are grossly violated."

Nothing I said is intellectually dishonest. You on the other hand gave numbers which you have been unable to back up, and you made a claim that people believe Obama is a genie yet you have been unable to cite even one single person who made that claim. That is intellectual dishonesty.

"First off the idea that Warren is a bigot because his religious beliefs oppose gay marriage, is simply wrong. Our nation badly needs to move past this dishonest practice of slapping labels on anyone and anything. It serves to stifle honest and constructive debate."

No one claimed that Warren is a bigot "because of his religious beliefs", he is a bigot because he compared gays to pedophiles. We can not allow people to use religion as a shield for such hate filled statements.

"Then there is your claim to honor. Many of the more reasoned DUers understand that this is a gesture for unity. We also understand that he is you want to exaggerate this gesture into some sort of grand honor, it would be for his work with the poor, Aids and Global warming, not for his opposition to gay marriage."

It is an honor to be given a speaking role at the inauguration. Period. There are many people who have done work with the poor, as well as on AIDS and global warming, and not too many of them will ever be given a speaking role at any inauguration. If this choice was meant to be a gesture of unity then it failed miserably because it certainly has not united anyone.

[treestar]

25. Good point

I always thought when Bush's numbers went down, a lot of it was, as I knew from talking to right wingers, it was right wingers who thought he was not conservative enough.

When they voted for McCrook - how else did he get 46% - it proved to be so, IMHO. Once they got Phailin, who they thought was conservative enough.

[RichGirl]

31. I agree with you on the composition of these people...

the extreme left and the extreme right. What they have in common is this...they have such a narrow view of how things should be and believe they are 100% right and anyone who disagrees is wrong. They will criticize anything and everything that Obama does that isn't EXACTLY what they want.

On the left, they started complaining with Obama's first pick...Rahm Emmanuel. They acted as if he had picked Rumsfeld...and then every former Clinton pick, on and on and on..........

On the good side, these people complain so much and often on trivial things or their own projections. It gets to just sound like a drone and people stop listening.

[NJmaverick]

33. Very true and very well said

It's been my observation that the more extreme one's views, the less open minded and tolerant one becomes.

[Colobo]

16. People are behind Obama because they know he has what it takes

to help us move forward.

[bdamomma]

20. we have to help him move forward.

but the only way we can "move forward" is to hold the present regime accountable for their crimes.

[nradisic]

17. Welcome to the Southern minority party...

Congratulations to the GOP. You reap what you sowed...

[Wednesdays]

22. What, there are still 17% holding out?

Why can't Obama close the deal?

:rofl:

[Arkana]

24. I guess he's doing something right--he managed to convince a

sizable chunk of McCain supporters, anyway.

[Politicub]

30. I'm glad people are optimistic about Obama

That will be very helpful as he introduces new policies and his admin works to stimulate the economy.

[Doctor_J]

32. I guess that means that 17% of the US population is gay and/or

devoted to hate radio

:shrug: