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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:48 PM
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VilSuck?? Seriously??
Former DLC chair VilSuck??

Monsanto shill VilSuck??

"Guy who fucked up the Iowa 2004 caucus and ensured the re-theft of Chimp Bush by knocking out the best candidate" VilSuck??

Fan of GMO corn and ridiculously inefficient process for biofuels VilSuck??
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:52 PM
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1. Yep, Monsanto and Big Ag will get a seat at the table
While small farmers and the public could well be left to twist in the wind.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:52 PM
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2. Why do you hate America? Why? n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:54 PM
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3. and now the circle is complete. Progressive won the election, but the DLC has become the master...
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:35 AM
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19. A progressive MARKETING CAMPAIGN won the election -nt
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:54 PM
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4. And weren't we supposed to accept the right-wing foreign policy/economic appointments
and settle for those in "domestic" posts to see the true progressive side of Obama?

Doesn't look like that is happening either.

I would love to be pleasantly surprised by at least one of the cabinet/higher level appointments, but the parade of center-right or worse names continues.

I guess I will just have to wait until 2012 (or 2016) to be able to see and support any progress now that "my" party is in charge.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:57 PM
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5. call Obama here's the number
202 540 3000.

When I called 2 weeks ago, they said they had received "thousands of phone calls"

I am so angry. This isn't change.
First Iran Contra Gates
then Union Murdering Banana company Holder (not to mention he wants long prison terms for pot smokers) and now
GMO loving Vilsack.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:07 PM
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6. BNL, who was the guy that dropped out over his support of Bush torture?
I've already forgotten. :blush:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:13 PM
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13. I know exactly who you are talking about
but his name escapes me also. Did the woman withdraw as well? I seem to think she made it through.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:09 PM
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7. Vilsack is the biggest disappointment of the bunch.
The other choices aren't so surprising. This one is a shock.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:15 PM
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8. He knocked out Kerry in 04?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:20 PM
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10. No, I said the BEST candidate. The guy who would have done to Chimp what Obama did to McCain
You know..... the guy who the DLC hates more than anybody else on the planet?

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:48 PM
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15. No, not ringing a bell. Your picture of Dean doesn't help...
Just distracts me from thinking of who you could mean... Gephardt? I hardly took him seriously.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:50 PM
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16. FUCK Gephardt.
He sabotaged Dean even more than VilSuck did, while simultaneously giving Chimpy a hand job in the White House rose garden.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:59 PM
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17. Well, he's not my type, so I wouldn't do that.
Surely you aren't implying that Dean, who couldn't finish better than third in the state he devoted most of his attention to IN HIS OWN PARTY could have beaten Bush? Hell, he incited a riot even around here when he claimed he wanted to be the candidate of pickup truck drivers with Confederate Flags on their bumpers. That dude was a land mine who enjoyed stepping on himself.

I don't know much about Vilsack. I doubt he can do much harm as Ag Sec. Obama's choices have been all over the map, though, which doesn't surprise me, but doesn't make me smile, either.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:20 PM
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9. WHY is anyone surprised by any of PE Obama's appointments???
He didn't hide any of his views from ANY voter. The only appointment that's REALLY odd to me is Daschle. Very WTF?
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:22 PM
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11. Hey now, the friendly corporate giants care about our children.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:23 PM
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12. You called me an "AgriCorp lobbyist" just now.
So you'll have to pardon me if you calling Vilsack a "Monsanto shill" doesn't carry much weight.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:19 PM
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14. Just his working for Monsanto alone would make him persona non grata in my administration
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:33 AM
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18. such a contrast to his energy secretary choice :(
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:36 AM
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20. ANOTHER h o r r i b l e choice. How many ways can he disappoint me? -nt
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