Our side needs a Drudge

[rumguy]

The left blogosphere doesn't have the direct connection to the mainstream media that Drudge has.

If we had that - we could move stories so much quicker.

[billbuckhead]

1. The mainstream media won't let us have a version of Drudge

We need to creat our own media.

[cheshire]

2. What is it that sludge has the Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Al Franken don't

[jpgray]

3. We need a lying rumor-monger with a plugin to the corrupt media?

I'm seeing this theme of borrwing from the Republican playbook a lot recently, and forgive me if I'm not too keen on pilfering the right wing's tactics--the reason so many of them are effective is because they have zero scruples and are the darlings of the elite. If we have to become them to beat them, what have we gained?

[rumguy]

4. It doesn't have to be lies

Just a well-traficked site that injects talking points directly into the media.

[blondeatlast]

6. We've got plenty to choose from, but no one who has access. nt

[Donny247]

5. Agreed 100%

Drudge is successful because he has sources inside various news outlets and is able to run with semi-factual gossip. Often, Drudge will beat the mainstream media to a major story. He's clearly Conservative, but he pretends to be objective (like Fox), and this makes him dangerous.

It is absurd that the Left hasn't come up with something similar, as the overhead for such a site isn't that high relative to its effectiveness as a media tool. Buzzflash tries to be somewhat Drudgelike, but it's too blatantly partisan. You need SUBTLETY. I really hope someone gets on top of this.

[blondeatlast]

8. And the big guys are so afraid of being scooped they no longer

check the facts.

Sheesh; this is what? The FIFTH time DU has scooped them?

[TheWebHead]

7. our side needs a Drudge

our side needs a Fox News
our side needs a Rush Limbaugh
our side needs a block of states as loyal to Dems as the South is to Repubs

[jpgray]

9. Why don't we just become exactly like the Republicans

That would save us the trouble. In all seriousness, I'd say our side needs original ideas that build on our own values and strength--your idea assumes the patronage of the elite and the acceptance of corporate America. Our power comes from the less fortunate, and we should focus our organizational efforts around them.

[ruggerson]

10. Yep. Been saying this for months. This is CRUCIAL.

[Demi_Babe]

11. here ya go

www.rawstory.com

[Maddy McCall]

12. Isn't that the website that claimed credit for the story that Walt Starr..

uncovered?

That was despicable enough for me not to click on the link in your post.

[Demi_Babe]

13. they ran the story

but are not taking claim to it...they mentioned Walt in the story and gave a link to here...that's how I found this place!

[Demi_Babe]

14. here is the quote from that article Rawstory ran

Walt Starr, who did the original research, speculates that Bush was wearing the ribbon because many members of his unit (who had been in the unit since 1966) would have been wearing the ribbon, and he probably thought he was supposed to be wearing it.

[mr_du04]

15. Maybe Skinner and Walt Star

should team up and do their own drudge type webpage.

[necso]

17. Or maybe we

could all use this site for that purpose (and more), if we didn't keep attacking each other and our candidate... and if we got rid of all the trolls.

(I am making no inference here, if I suspected you, it would be clear.)

[mr_du04]

19. you have a point about using DU but,

the fact is like it or not (and I hate it) drudgie reaches a hell of a lot more folks then we do. I sure as hell do my part though to get the word out on DU. But, untill we have a real media we will not get the exposure that sludge does.

[necso]

20. Nor would any other progressive site!

And I am glad that you did not take this personally, as, after reading some of your posts, you seem alright!

[mr_du04]

21. You are allright as well

:) No need for me to take it personally you made a good point nothing wrong with that.

[necso]

22. And, again, I didn't mean to imply anything.

But some folks here are quick to misinterpret... and we do have a problem with trolls, some of them rather clever ones that I have had a hard time getting tombstoned.

[mr_du04]

23. I didn't think you implied anything

so maybe I am a bit dense ;) . you spoke your mind and that is what DU is about so no harm was done but, I do appreciate you being so nice.

[necso]

24. I really didn't think that you would misinterpret.

After all I did check out some of your posts.

But sometimes, perhaps, I also address other readers (all two of them!). And I am, to some extent, trying to be careful.

Generally, I am pleased with many of the new posters, and more than once I have rushed to the defense of newbies.

But I am also quick (these days) to try to tombstone members, when their treachery is clear.

;) Best!

[mr_du04]

25. Thanks n/t

[AmerDem]

16. Why the fuck is Sludge's name used so much around here?

Listen, this guy is literally fed lies and half truths from the white house. They know he is lower then a snakes belly and will print literally anything! Why the fuck would anyone want us to strive to be more like these vile corrupt fascist criminals? Enough with Sludge links, quotes all of it!:wtf:

[henslee]

18. No. Keep it grass roots. Much more alluring and "real". Lots of little

units running on love and small donations is better than anything that resembles BIG MEDIA.

Look at how cool indie music scene was before it got co-opted by the mainstream music biz and their (gag) street marketing teams. They were able to "fake" indie stuff to unknowing kids and it all went downhill from there. Indie used to be weird dudes/gals at college radio stations getting excited about random stuff....then it was coopted by corporate greed machine and became watered down trite and cliche.

[Darby]

26. www.atrios.blogspot.com, www.talkingpointsmemo.com

www.dailykos.com

Howard Kurtz (Washington Post reporter) cites from Josh Marshall's Talking Points Memo frequently