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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 02:59 PM
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Scalia Refers Another Obama Citizenship Case To Conference 12/12/08
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 03:00 PM by IWantAnyDem
Another case goes to conference on Friday:

No. 08A469
Title: Cort Wrotnowski, Applicant
v.
Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut Secretary of State

Docketed:
Lower Ct: Supreme Court of Connecticut
Case Nos.: (SC 18264)

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nov 25 2008 Application (08A469) for stay and/or injunction, submitted to Justice Ginsburg.
Nov 26 2008 Application (08A469) denied by Justice Ginsburg.
Nov 29 2008 Application (08A469) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.
Dec 8 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 12, 2008.
Dec 8 2008 Application (08A469) referred to the Court by Justice Scalia.


Link To Supreme Court Docket

Another case to be denied without comment.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:01 PM
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1. Uhhhh...... 12/12 ????
Oh Geezus they wouldn't possibly be that obvious about it, would they?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:03 PM
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2. I must be really slow.... 12/12?
The significance would be.....? :shrug:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:06 PM
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4. Bush v. Gore was decided 12/12/2000 n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:09 PM
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6. Ahh, a date etched in infamy, but obviously not yet on my brain...!
thanks.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:03 PM
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3. They should just rule on the thing. To put an end to this nonsense
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:07 PM
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I was thinking this might be the best thing to do
I know some will always believe this but it won't continue to tie up the courts.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:07 PM
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5. They first must have a case presented they CAN rule on
Nobody has standing and, in fact, nobody but the Congress has standing or jurisdiction.

so all they can do is deny these things.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:12 PM
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7. They didn't have the jurisdiction to appoint Chimpy as pResident either
but they did it anyway. It's probably nothing, but just seeing the name Scalia and the date December 12 together makes one a little paranoid. :scared:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:19 PM
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8. No, they didn't appoint Chimpy at all
They ruled on an election case is all. One case from one state in which electors were not chosen yet.

Electors have been chosen for all 50 states in the 2008 election. From here, only the Congress has standing and jurisdiction.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:11 PM
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9. Scalia needs to be impeached.
Seriously. That guy has stepped over the line more times than most--fishing with Uncle Dick (appearance of impropriety), relying on completely worthless Deputy Attorney General opinions, failing to disqualify himself when his impartiality was in question, and so on.

I think President Obama should ask for his resignation first, then threaten to submit three new names to Congress for inclusion on the Court, bringing the total to twelve, then knock it back down to eleven by impeaching Scalia. I don't give a damn if it looks bad--this nation is skee-rewed thanks largely to that one fat-arsed fascist, and we have a lot of work to do.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:06 PM
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11. Scalia did what any Justice would do
This is a request for an emergency stay. If Scalia saw any merit to it, he'd grant the emergency stay.

Instead, he referred to conference where it will be denied without comment, edning any chance of resubmission.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:20 PM
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15. Okay... but he still needs to be impeached.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:22 PM
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:25 PM
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10. again, this is standard procedure.
This case was presented to Ginsburg first, because it arose out of the circuit to which she is assigned. After she rejected it, the petitioner had the option of going to any other justice and trying again. If that justice rejected it, the petitioner could go to another justice and so on. In order to cut off these serial petitioners, it is standard practice that when a second justice is presented with a petition that has been previously denied, that justice does not grant or deny it; rather, that justice submits it to the full court so it can dispose of it once and for all.

Just as with Thomas, I can't wait for the day scalia is off the court. But he hasn't done anything wrong or suspicious here. In fact, he voted not to accept the Donofrio petition (as did Thomas and all of the other Justices) and there is no reason to think the result will be different this time (particularly since if he was so inclined, scalia could've just granted the petition unilaterally).
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:07 PM
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12. I agree
This was a request for an emergency stay against the electoral college. If Scalia had seen any merit in the request, he would have granted it.

Instead, he sent it to conference where it will be denied, just like Donforio v. Wells.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:16 PM
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13. Good more false hope for the freeptards.
We can have another day of amusement on Thursday.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:38 PM
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14. I figure this will go all the way through next Monday
They will release the list of cases they take on Friday and the false hope will continue until Monday when the electoral college votes and the case is officially denied.
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