Bill is on CNN right now saying that he isn't happy about

[ddeclue]

giving up international donations to the Clinton Foundation...

"I operate globally.. I get donations globally"...

I detect some chaffing over having to give this money up...

[FormerDittoHead]

1. To hear people talk, you'd think Bill Clinton was putting the money in his pocket

http://www.clintonfoundation.org/what-we-do/

[ClarkUSA]

6. Hate to break it to you, but he has.... "Clinton in Donor Scandal"

One synopsis of his "sordid" moneygrubbing: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/richard_delevan/blog/2008/01/31/clinton_in_donor_scandal_nyt

Original New York Times' "After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton" story link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html

[blm]

32. Well, there is that matter of 20 million he banked personally from Dubai royals...

the same Dubai royals protected along with Poppy Bush, Saudi royals, AQ Khan, Jackson Stephens and Marc Rich when Bill deep-sixed BCCI's serious matters throughout the 90s.

You didn't think they paid him ALL that 20 million just for his help in lobbying for Bush to give them the Ports Deal, did you?

[Clintonista2]

33. IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!11!!!!!11111

[blm]

41. ...The former president, 61, received $1 million from Yucaipa in 2003, $4 million in 2004 and $5 mil

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aGWqtiFnR4Mc&refer=home

>>>>
The former president, 61, received $1 million from Yucaipa in 2003, $4 million in 2004 and $5 million in 2005. In 2006, he received a guaranteed payment of $2.5 million plus a $156,611 share of the profits. The campaign said he earned $2.75 million from partnership income in 2007.

Amounts `Odd'

``The flat amounts received from Yucaipa are odd,'' said Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of taxation at the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, who agreed that it signaled Bill Clinton was performing a service. ``That's quite unusual.''
>>>>

The ADDITIONAL 20 million payout should show up in next year's tax returns...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120097424021905843.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news

[Moochy]

49. Your attempt at humor

failed to kick up the required dust. please try again.

[FormerDittoHead]

38. You forgot about Troopergate.

Don'tcha hate it that nothing sticks to these guys, almost like they're not breaking the law in the first place, eh?

But we know better, and so does Obama, as after campaigning with both of them and appointing Hillary SoS (or are those just rumors SHE started?) Obama's got them just where he wants them, ready to close in! Book 'em Danno! Or is that Ken Starr I hear?

[LostinVA]

63. TROOPERGATE???

[blm]

64. Troopergate was RW bullshit that kept them from noticing how GHWBush and his cronies were

leading this nation into fascism through their illegal operations in IranContra, Iraqgate, and BCCI - the RW had no moral concern over that as they kept inventing stupid scandals like Troopergate to divert public attention from the REALLY CORRUPT crimes of BushInc that Bill, also, was uninterested in revealing.

Ever hear the RW crapthrowers mention how upset they were that a GHWBush probably FORCED Gov Clinton to look the other way as he directed CIA operatives to run all that cheap IranContra cocaine out of Mena Airport? Nope - they focus on Clinton while pretending BushInc had nothing to do with it.

My anger with Clinton is ALL about their role in the protection of the Bushes and the fascist agenda that has been force-fed this nation.

[FormerDittoHead]

66. Then you must really be pissed at Obama...

Unless you think we're going to see a bunch of indictments coming in late January against former administration officials... I don't see it happening. That's Obama for you, protecting the Bushes and their fascist agenda!

My bottom line is simply this:

All of these simple sounding things aren't that simple, and the fact is that the Clintons have TONS of powerful enemies who would LOVE to find something on them that would... STICK, but they... DON'T.

Moreover, and to really burst your bubble, not only have they NOT been convicted of doing anything wrong outside of playing with the definition of "sex", but Obama actively campaigned with both Clintons since then and has since appointed Hillary has his SoS, with Bill in close tow.

So where does that leave all of these old (and I consider January to be old) allegations at this time?

Old, unproven, allegations. Like Troopergate.

[blm]

70. And Ronnie is a saint and GHWBush is a noble public servant. Because people like you say so.

And those people ARE like you whether you realize it or not.

You prefer that EVERY citizen look the other way? Do you want NO citizen to care about the accuracy of the nation's historic record?

The money from Dubai is a FACT. Dubai money staked a giant share of BCCI. BCCI matters were deep-sixed throughout the 90s and you won't even find one mention of BCCI in Bill's entire book though he was handed the report when he took office and that report included names like Bin Laden, Marc Rich, Jackson Stephens, AQ Khan - you'd think he would have shown some concern, eh?

Troopergate? Yeah....and BushInc's legal fixers went to Rose Law Firm for 2 years because of a little land deal called Whitewater, NOT to scrub the numerous files of Rose's largest client (GHWBush's longtime friend and BCCI figure) Jackson Stephens.....right?

[FormerDittoHead]

74. Second stage - put words in their mouths. n/t

[blm]

81. I just went straight to the bottom line -

.

[ronnykmarshall]

72. FORMER Rush Fan my ass.

[FormerDittoHead]

75. Here's my ass. Kiss it, and welcome to my ignore bin.

I've posted way too many messages here for someone to give me that reply. Bye.

[ronnykmarshall]

98. Bye ...

Miss you already!!

[Tom Rinaldo]

43. I read lots of sniping here about Bill's personal take from his activities

but very very comment little about all of the difference that the tens of billions he has helped raise to fight AIDS etc. is doing. There is something very odd about our sense of balence regarding this. With the exception of Jimmy Carter, all recent ex U.S. Presidents have made a fortune off of foreign speaking gigs and the like. But with the exception of Jimmy Carter AND Bill Clinton, all recent ex U.S. Presidents have played minor roles at best in personally confronting the hardships facing most of the world's disadvantaged peoples.

I have always viewed Bill Clinton as a mixed bag sort of guy, but the operative work in "mixed bag" is "mix". Typically at a Democratic oriented web site Democrats point to the good that prominent Democrats accomplish - not to the total exclusion of problems they might also have but at least to counter balence all of the negatives that Republican dominated web sites like to focus on. But when it comes to the Clintons, many on DU throw that perspective out of the window and instead add voice to a freeper like chorous.

We should not allow the Clinton Global Initiative to be reduced to a source of political embarassment. Much more so, it should be a source of great pride among Democrats of all stripes. It is producing positive results for hundreds of millions of people who desperately need it.

[blm]

53. The decisions Bill made that protected Poppy Bush and his cronies ended up costing an AWFUL LOT and

many more hundreds of billions, probably trillions before it's all over. And that is just US treasure. What about the millions of lives around the world?

Any good done by Clinton has always been a bubble easily popped by the aggressive fascism he has long protected.

[Tom Rinaldo]

65. From a clear leftist perspective

90% of the U.S. government is completely corrupted by special interests defending an entrenched ruling class and all the priorities, ideology, and structures that continue it. And by that I mean 90% of those who occupy seats in Congress also. I do not hold that these folks are all evil, most are just coopted into a belief system and set of assumptions that justifies never ending special privledges. Bill Clinton is far from being a leftist by any standard. Same holds true for most everyone else in government also. Complicity in the type of evils you cite is very very wide spread. I just get put off by what I think is a tendency a lot of us have to focus our disgust onto a Clinton to the exclusion of the system that molds a Bill Clinton to be that way, without also condemning at least 90 of our current 100 U.S. Senators for holding similar world view, even if circumstances haven't enabled all of them to play their world view out on a stage as large as an ex President gets to play on.

[blm]

68. My loathing has been for the system that Bill used his obvious TALENT to protect.

It is never about just Bill Clinton for me - it is always about the fascist system that has too much sway over him and much of our nation.

There have been a few who gave up much to expose that system - and Bill sided with the Bushes and the system. He HAD serious talent to tap into....and the good guys COULD have been helped greatly by that effort.

He CHOSE the team he wanted to play for, and they are the enemy of any responsible citizen.

[karynnj]

60. Nice post - and I do think he gets plenty of credit for the CGI

There were even articles, like the NY magazine one a year or two ago, that referred to Bill Clinton as working to be the defacto "President of the World." His AIDS initiative deserved and has received substantial praise. (In fact the prominence of Clinton has at times given him coverage well before the CGI has done anything substantial on things - for example, there were many prominent articles in the NYT and elsewhere on his "work" on green building - when there was a meeting on it and a year later when people pledged money to work on it, even though a year beyond that nothing had yet been done. There was more coverage of that in 2008 than there was of THK's over a decade of commitment and contrtibution to green buildings.)

The only aspect that has been a political problem was that he fought, while HRC ran, to keep the names of people making multi-million dollar donations - including foreign nationals secret. The biggest reason for campaign finance reform was to prevent people from buying access - or even thinking they can buy access. This is why is was right for Obama on the disclosures and the conditions he did - and the Clintons accepted them.

I hope Bill Clinton is not backing away from the commitment he made - and there is nothing to suggest he is.

[Whisp]

79. and... i don't really think any silver tongued orator speech giver

is worth an average million bucks a month.

ha!
sounds pretty suspicious to me, speechifying and getting ridiculous compensation sounds suspect, there isn't a price you can put on it, like software, so you can launder mounds and mounds of money.

[Sebastian Doyle]

89. Well if he has 20 million, why can't he pay off Hillary's debt?

It's 9 million or so, isn't it? I don't see how a guy who was born and raised in Hope Arkansas couldn't get by with "only" 11 million dollars.

[Genevieve]

100. The Clintons have over ONE HUNDRED MILLION Dollars,

not just 20 million dollars.

[blm]

119. Yes...that 20 million payoff from Yucaipa won't even show up on tax returns until 2009.

That was his payOUT as he was preparing for Hillary's presidential run.

[Renew Deal]

40. The video is below. Bill didn't say anything wrong.

The OP is exagerating.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7947912&mesg_id=7948197

[monmouth]

2. I wish he's stay off the TV and just shut up....n/t

[niceypoo]

3. Why?

Hate?

[Captain Hilts]

10. He's very popular and left office with a 70% approval rating. Lots to hate!

[ShortnFiery]

44. Bill Clinton is not nearly as much beloved by the American People now EXCEPT in his

OWN mind. :(

I hope BUBBA does not continue behaving like a Media Attention Whore in the future - THAT would definitely interfere with HRC's efforts as Obama's SOS.

[wyldwolf]

55. no, only by 55% now... which is up about 5% in recent months... more than enough clout...

... to say what he wants to say. :)

[Phx_Dem]

96. It has nothing to do with hate. I don't hate Bill Clinton.

But I'm sick to death of his constant blah blah blah blah blah blah verbal diarreah.

He's like a relative who never SHUTS UP. They drive you nuts. It's not about not liking them, it's about being sick of listening to their constant yapping.

[LostinVA]

11. I'd like an answer to that, too

[Name removed]

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[ShortnFiery]

48. No, we, The People, did NOT hire Bill to be Co-SOS.

:grr:

[elocs]

57. Telling posters on a forum to STFU is not a way to influence people and make friends.

Why is there such hyperbole regarding the Clintons where if you simply do not like them or support their positions, then you "hate" them? I did not support Hillary in the primaries, but I didn't "hate" her. I voted for Bill twice and supported him as president although I did not like everything he did and I wasn't proud of him concerning his personal life, but I did not and do not "hate" him. Overall I am fairly ambivalent about the Clintons, but when I disagree with them about things it doesn't mean I "hate" them. A friend wanted to give me one of Bill's books which she had him autograph at a book signing, but I said "thanks, but no thanks". I would rather have seen her give it to someone who would appreciate it because I simply do not obsess or pay much attention to the Clintons.

There is a lot of hate for many persons here at DU. Most of it is for Republicans, but Democrats receive their share of hate here also when they do not do our bidding. I do think that throwing out the "hate" label is a good way to attempt to silence Clinton critics. However, I don't see that working at all.

Hate is a poison that many enjoy sipping like it is a fine wine, holding onto the hate like it is a prized and precious possession. But exactly how is the hated hurt by the hate? The irony is that hate eats away the hater while leaving the hated unscathed. So haters, bottoms up--that will certainly teach the object of the hate.

[ddeclue]

97. For all the accusations against me of being "anti" Clinton or a disloyal Dem:

1) I voted for Bill Clinton twice. If there were no 22nd amendment I would have given him a third term.
2) I donated to Hillary's first Senate run in NY.
3) I have an autographed copy of Clinton's "My Life" and another copy in Spanish "Mi Vida".
4) I have Hillary Clinton's "Living History".

I am entitled to think that Hillary makes a good New York Senator but NOT a good President or SoS - if you don't like it go read the First Amendment again and get back to me.

I am entitled to say that I like Bill Clinton but that I don't like everything about him or his policies as President - I wrote Robert Reich and Bill Clinton back in the 1990's to tell them what I thought of NAFTA. Turns out I was right and they were wrong.

I am entitled to be tired of Clinton-mania every bit as much as I am entitled to be tired of the Bushes or the Kennedies. There are 300 MILLION Americans in this country - certainly there are plenty of competent qualified people in America outside of a few political "royal families" that can run the place and we don't need to live in fear of "inexperience" given that experience has given us people like Bob McNamara, Don Rumsfeld, Henry Kissinger, J. Edgar Hoover, George H.W. Bush, and Richard Nixon over the years.

Politics in this country should not be allowed to devolve into a modern day "war of the roses" between political royal families and we should be trying to bring in fresh blood to the process - one reason I liked Barack Obama and one reason I worked for Alan Grayson to get elected to Congress in the Eighth District of Florida over Chamber of Commerce establishment DLC Democrat Charlie Stuart in the primaries.

I am entitled to be a progressive Democrat who believes in liberal populist ideas without being accused of not being a loyal Democrat and I am entitled to demand that Democrats I help elect with my vote, my money, and my volunteer efforts should stick to those ideas without being told to STFU: I believe in ending the war in Iraq, closing Guantanamo, stopping torture and warrantless wiretapping, ending the PATRIOT Act and the DHS, restoring our Constitution, universal health care, universal college education and lifetime training, a living wage, etc., etc.

I am entitled to be considered a good Democrat without having to drink the Clinton Kool Aid. I have put 5,000 dollars plus into Democratic candidates between 2003 and now - and I'm NOT a millionaire, just upper middle class. I have put upwards of 3,000 volunteer hours into Democratic candidates and causes as a volunteer over the last five years at various levels and have actually accomplished some good work in getting Democrats elected to the State House in Florida and getting a Democratic Congressman in Central Florida and getting some local Dems elected at the County level.

People are allowed to be good Democrats without Clinton uber-supporters piling on and telling us otherwise merely for criticizing some aspect of the Clintons or the corporatist DLC faction of the Democratic Party.


Respectfully,

Douglas J. De Clue
Democratic Activist,
Florida

[elocs]

106. My point is that good Democrats allow others to voice their opinions,

especially other good Democrats, even if they disagree, without telling them to STFU. People may disagree with the Clintons or not prefer them for any particular position, without "hating" them. I don't believe that with the Clintons it is that you either love them or hate them. I am ambivalent about them and don't spend much time obsessing over them or paying much attention to them.

[Name removed]

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[monmouth]

58. Wow, I'm so influenced by your silliness....LOL...n/t

[AndrewP]

31. Don't say anything critical of a Clinton, otherwise you are just a meanie!

:sarcasm:




Seriously, the guy is great. One of the best Presidents ever. An International icon.

I voted for Hillary Clinton in my state's caucus. I'm glad she is going to be Secretary of State. I gave $$ to her campaign.

Nothing but love.

But Bill needs to stop with the passive aggressive comments. It was self defeating in South Carolina and it sometimes makes him come off as overly self important.

He can continue to be an awesome influence on the world, and hope he continues to do so. I just hope he channels it a little better.

[ShortnFiery]

47. "Seriously, the guy is great."

I doubt if the parents of Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers or the multitudes of other women Bill Clinton slept with would agree.

Morally, IMO Bill Clinton is bankrupt. He only does this fund raising to FEED his own ego to remain in front of the cameras/public.

[AndrewP]

59. Actually, I don't argue that.

Maybe I overrate him just based on how much right wingers hate him.

[springhill]

71. You are so hateful and obvious......

If you knew anything about Bill Clinton, it is that he has always been very benevolent and his history of that precedes his presidency. His affairs do not make up the whole man, he is and has always been very generous.

[MrsMatt]

73. These were adult women, not girls

and as such, their parents had no say in their sexual decisions.

[Beacool]

76. Are you for real???????

These women splet willingly with Bill. No one coerced them into it.

Yor assertion that Bill spends a considerably amount of his time and effort on his foundation and Global Initiative because he wants to be in front of the cameras is utter BULLSHIT!!!!!!

This is a man who could have made a fortune in private practice, instead he chose to be in public service and entered the WH as one of the poorest presidents in decades. The Clintons didn't even own a house until he left office in 2001.

Pathetic........

:thumbsdown:

[LostinVA]

77. Seriously, forget Stella and her rants

NEVER mention Chelsea and her job to this poster, either. Oh boy.

[Beacool]

80. I know, why do I even bother?

:eyes:

[dkf]

4. Yeah, I guess Obama really has a lid on this guy.

lol.

[newfie11]

5. Is this money going into AIDs research?

I am confused as to what the donations he gets are for. If it is only for AIDs research then why is there a problem? I heard him say on CNN that he would disclose all donors.

[Captain Hilts]

9. Yes, a lot of it is. A UN Aids guy from Africa I met was a real Bubba supporter because of it...

it doesn't have requirements like "Not for abortions" and stuff like that money from the US has!

[Beacool]

78. The vast majority of money he raises overseas

goes to his charitable foundation and Global Initiative. He makes his own money by giving speeches, just like any other former president. Though there have been some investments that have raised eyebrows.

[ClarkUSA]

7. Tell it to Hillary, Bill. We don't want to hear your passive-aggressive whining.

What a selfish attention hog.

[monmouth]

15. Thank you....n/t

[Captain Hilts]

8. I actually understand this. It's not really a US outfit. nt

[high density]

13. Well, pick it up again in a couple of years after your wife retires.

People act like she's going to be doing this for twenty years... I mean come on.

[ellie]

14. YIPPEE!

I hope our news cycles are dominated by Clinton forever and ever amen.

[GodlessBiker]

16. Can't he just direct them to another charity that does similar good work?

[eShirl]

17. Is it more than he would have had to give up if she'd been elected president?

?

[ddeclue]

18. He would not have had to give up anything if she were President.

The Constitution puts the limitation on APPOINTMENTS not electeds.

Doug D.

[eShirl]

29. and their spouses... apparently...

[JVS]

54. Legally he might be able to keep it, politically it probably wouldn't fly

[TexasObserver]

19. You're spinning it.

Nice job, Hannity.

[ddeclue]

20. Hannity?? This was on CNN not FauxNews...

And that was what he said..it was pretty obvious what he meant.

[SwampG8r]

25. yes but you must

hate the clintons or you wouldnt have repeated the words that came from his actual mouth:sarcasm:

[JVS]

56. AHHHHHHHH VILE HATER!!eleven!!!!1!!!111!!

:sarcasm:

[TexasObserver]

28. You don't get it. YOU are the defective unit. YOU are the one hearing what you want to hear.

It was a perfectly ordinary comment, the kind one would expect.

Why don't you publish the actual transcript of the interview and the responses? Or are you afraid context will destroy your little scam here?

[ddeclue]

92. YOU are the one trying to "scam" people...

I saw it live on TV... I don't know where I'd get a transcript... it's not my problem to provide one to you if you choose not to believe me that is YOUR problem not mine.

The comment was NOT ordinary and the CNN reporter picked up on the same thing I picked up on.

Get over yourself.

Doug D.

[Lex]

21. Why am I not surprised? The level of dishonest discourse

about the Clintons here at DU is beyond disgusting.

[ddeclue]

24. And it comes just as often from Clinton supporters as Clinton opponents.

This post was NOT anti-Clinton...only in your imagination...

[Lex]

26. Yawn.

This has been done to death.

[ProSense]

35. Delete. n/t

[LostinVA]

22. Ah -- the day's first anti-Clinton OP, right on schedule

[ddeclue]

23. Not anti-Clinton at all...

and BTW I'm much more of a Bill fan than a Hill fan FWIW...

Doug D.

[mtnsnake]

50. bullshit

If you weren't so anti-Bill and Hillary, you wouldn't be posting something as useless as this. It wouldn't matter what words came out of Bill's mouth, you'd still knitpick it to death no matter what, just hoping to drum up the same old divisive crap that makes this place so sick.

[ddeclue]

93. Oh GOD forbid I should report something that CNN considered newsworthy enough to put on the air

around the world....

You don't have a valid response so all you do is label me as "anti" as a way of bashing me...

You are trying to be the Bill and Hillary censorship police and nobody asked you so get over yourself and go post somewhere else.

Doug D.

[chimpymustgo]

30. We're in danger of putting Free Republic out of business. Get your Clinton hate - right HERE!!!

[Jakes Progress]

67. We have more than our share of Darth

Sidious wannabes. Feel the hate -- feed on the hate.

[Catherine Vincent]

34. What's with this "Bill" crap?

:eyes:

[ProSense]

36. Here's a clip

Video

[Renew Deal]

39. There was nothing wrong with his statements.

The OP is exagerating.

[ddeclue]

103. No I'm NOT go listen carefully to what Clinton said:

I operate globally and accept donations globally...

is what he is referring to when he later says "everything else I have no problem with"...

in short he has a problem with losing those donations.

Sorry if you didn't listen to the clip.

Doug D.

[Renew Deal]

118. I did listen to it and you're exaggerating.

He says that he operates globally and that it's important to make it totally transparent. Nice try though.

[Beacool]

84. Thank you.

There's nothing inappropriate about what he said, quite the contrary.

[JVS]

37. Awwww.

:nopity:

[SwampG8r]

42. i know...like anyone expected the drama to abate

[JVS]

45. What puzzles me is that he should have foreseen this issue a year ago.

If things had gone according to plan, he'd be a month an a half from becoming the First Gentleman. Would this not have been even a bigger deal in that scenario than it is now?

[SwampG8r]

i have a theory about that

but if i posted it it would be the burning man of flamefests and i most likely would be TSed

[SwampG8r]

52. original deleted

i wanted to be different so i deleted out the original instead of the duplicate

hah think outside the box people!

[SaveOurDemocracy]

61. The drama on DU will never abate as long as people

are willing to believe bullshit OPs bullshit interpretations. Did you bother watching the video before you jumped on board? The link to the video has been posted above.


There are people who post on DU who have made it their mission to CREATE Clinton drama ... and there are those who lap it up like hungry puppies.

[Jakes Progress]

69. Like esrtwhile high school jock stars.

On Friday nights you see them hanging around the sidelines at the games trying to glom onto a little of the thrill they used to have. They don't know how to get a life.

On DU we have the primary warriors who can't figure out how to get a charge in their real lives that matches the thrill they had during the primaries. Hillary and Bill sniping is their version of leaning over the fence and trying to tell the coach what play to run.

Pathetic and wasteful.

[Willo]

46. From the CNN snippets I heard this morning

Bill was saying he was open to transparency on his donations; Hillary was surprised she was in the running for SOS and that she first learned of if from a newspaper.

I don't know, sounds like he was trying be "helpful" again.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

62. yes ... to anyone with ears and a brain. n/t

[rvablue]

83. Thanks for just giving us facts and then some

without having to put a flamebait header on it.

Interesting tidbit about Hillary....guess it blows the theory out of the water of the vast Clinton conspiracy to strong arm Obama....

Oh well, I don't things like the facts and truth aren't going to stand in the way of some here....

[Willo]

86. Actually his words didn't ring true to me.

I wasn't disputing the OP, just stating some of what I heard (or thought I heard for myself), while preparing for work.

My impression of the brief parts of the snippets I heard was that Bill was well...performing. I don't for one second believe that Hillary learned of the SOS by reading the newspaper bit. No harm, no foul though, I figure he was trying to help Hillary when it wasn't necessary.

[ddeclue]

104. If you watch the clip carefully you'll see he has

a problem with losing those global donations.

He starts off saying he operates globally and accepts donations globally and later says in reference to this that everything else he has no problem with... in short he has a problem with losing his global donations.

Doug D.

[wyldwolf]

51. umm ... so?

:shrug:

[DevonRex]

82. Of course he's not happy about it. I'm going to assume that his

foundation does some really good stuff and that it needs money to operate. But Bill did what he was asked so that Hillary could be SoS and that's a good thing.

[Beacool]

85. And I detect more baseless manure being stirred.

Next time please attach the video clip. There's nothing there that could be considered not appropriate.

:wtf:

[ecstatic]

87. (sigh) He's already going rogue. How does this help his wife?

He can be so selfish at times.

[sufrommich]

88. I watched the clip,could you point out the part where

he's "going rogue"?

[ecstatic]

91. I didn't see the clip, so it was wrong of me to comment

:) Still haven't watched and don't plan to. But it's a lesson to not rely on OPs for info.

[sufrommich]

94. No problem,I've done it myself. nt

[Beacool]

101. Go to post 36 and watch the 2 minute video before opining.

Bill didn't say anything inappropriate. The OP is just stirring the usual pile of manure.

:eyes:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

90. Here's a clue ... verify the OP's not talkin out their ass..,.

BEFORE commenting!!

I, too, would like to be directed to ANYTHING he said in that interview that was OBJECTIONABLE, inappropriate or 'selfish' ... we'll be waiting (probably forever)

I guess the TRUTH really DOES hurt A LOT when you're blinded by bias.

[Phx_Dem]

95. I wonder if he'll ever shut up.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Hillary found out about the SOS consideration in the newspaper.

I'd work for Obama.

I'm not happy about giving up global donations.

Nothing he says is of any big significance, but he can't stop talking. Hey Bill, SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

[Beacool]

102. Please...........

The man was being INTERVIEWED, he didn't call a press conference.

:crazy:

[Phx_Dem]

116. He agreed to be interviewed because

he can't stay away from the cameras and he can't stand for anyone, including his wife, who just recieved a huge appointment to get more attention than him. He should have a little more respect for his wife and allow her to be the center of attention for a change. But then Bill has never had any respect for his wife.

:crazy:


P.S. For the record, I don't hate or even dislike Bill Clinton. I'm just sick of his constant need for attention, but I do hate the way he has publicly humiliated his wife on many occassions with his sexual exploits.

[BzaDem]

105. I think the same could be said about you. n/t

[Binka]

107. And You n/t

[Phx_Dem]

115. That is so witty. I bet you thought it up all by yourself

[walldude]

99. What does that money do?

Before I go shitting on Bill I'd find out where that money goes. Usually a Presidential Foundation does charity work. So tell me, where does that money go? Or are you talking out of your ass?



JUst so you know, I'm no fan of Bill's but I also don't think he's worried about his bank account.

[ddeclue]

108. I'm NOT "shitting" on Bill and the money indeed goes to many worthy activities

that improve the standard of living mostly in Africa and Asia and I myself donated when he first began it.

That doesn't mean he can't be upset for GOOD reasons about losing money that he would be getting from other industrialized nations like in Europe, Japan, Austrailia, etc.

Doug D.

[Vattel]

109. Odd that you find this significant enough to post. n/t

[ddeclue]

110. Tell it to CNN - they felt it was important enough to broadcast around the world on satellite TV.

:eyes:

[Vattel]

111. why do you find it so interesting?

[ddeclue]

112. Because Bill wasn't being a good soldier and was showing some daylight

between himself and Hillary.

Doug D.

[Vattel]

113. You have high standards

for being a good soldier and low standards for finding something interesting.

[ddeclue]

114. That's merely your opinion...CNN agreed with me not you. n.t

[Beacool]

117. There's NOTHING in that interview that was inappropriate.

And he definitely can say anything he wants, many people still hold Bill in high regard. Heck, plenty would have voted again for him in a heartbeat.

What's with this obsession of trying to treat Bill as if, instead of being a brilliant man, he was a wayward child?