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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:50 AM
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Richardson may be Commerce Sec'y. It's good he'll be in the cabinet...but I feel sorry for him.
It seems like that's a fairly unimportant, non-visible post, when he has a fairly distinguished background in energy and negotiations with foreign leaders and such.

Still, as a member of an A-Team, even the less important ones are expected to be emminently qualified, as Richardson is. So I guess in that respect, it's okay.

I was never a Richardson supporter and have no particular affection for him. I just sorta feel sorry for him, since he really went through hell for endorsing Obama. But maybe he'll be able to use his energy experience in his new post.

At least a place was found for him.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:54 AM
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1. I think he's over rated myself. I know I should like him, but he just seems so
fake. He's rather egotistical and really seems to like drama. I'm supposing he does a good job as govenor and does what he has to do.. but he seems more like a character than a politician.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:55 AM
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2. Maybe it will gain importance with Obamma's agenda
Obama wants to create a whole industry of green jobs. The Commerce Secy. will be very important.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:56 AM
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3. This really does not help
a post like this is not meant for discussion but to continue
driving division among ourselves.

This need to stop.

That'll be all...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:10 AM
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14. I agree with you on this. Altho I feel Richardson's fate was sealed more because
of his dalliances with women, we need his talent. Let's pull together. Sec. of Commerce is extremely important. He, and all the rest on the O team, have work to do. Let's get behind them and leave all this other stuff in the past...
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:18 AM
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19. My OP was actually a positive one, a caring one. Not at all intended...
to get anyone angry or upset. How could it have been viewed that way at all is beyond me. Unless some people do not allow any question at all of appointments. Simply not allowed. No how, no way.

My OP didn't actually question the appointment, anyway. It simply was a tip o' the hat to the brave endorsement that Richardson made. Of all the endorsements, his was the only one where the endorser took a hit, and took a risk to the rest of his political life. Had Hillary Clinton won, his national career would have probably been over. Not so with Kerry or Powell or the others.

We can only tip our hats to...Clinton? Or Powell? Or...to whoever else some posters decide we can? Of course not.

Here's to Richardson, for braving being called on national TV a "Judas." For suffering Bill Clinton's excoriations. For risking his future. For helping Obama with the hispanic vote and the western state vote.

Here's to Richardson. I tip my hat off to ya. I know you wanted SOS, but in the end, you just aren't experienced enough or a big enuf fish. Nothin' wrong with that. At least you got in the cabinet and were not forgotten.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:26 AM
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22. My response was more in the spirit of "let's move past this." Not to diss you.
Let's question when the Admin is actually installed and they actually do their work. If we trusted Obama's judgment by our vote, then let's give him the benefit of the doubt...
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:51 PM
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38. You see how you get yourself all twisted up
this is you;

I was never a Richardson supporter and have no particular affection for him. I just sorta feel sorry for him, since he really went through hell for endorsing Obama. But maybe he'll be able to use his energy experience in his new post.



and this;


Here's to Richardson. I tip my hat off to ya. I know you wanted SOS, but in the end, you just aren't experienced enough or a big enuf fish. Nothin' wrong with that. At least you got in the cabinet and were not forgotten.


now tell me if thats not stirring up sh*t with Richardson supporters and you know there are many on this board, better yet to create a division between Latinos and Blacks knowing fully that, that discussion has already started here on DU.

If another poster has made those exact same comments about Hillary, I betcha' you probably be
throwing tantrums all over the place....right!!

The hypocricy with some folks is unfounded.

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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:08 PM
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32. If every politician was graded on fidelity, most would fail.
Why does this keep coming up for Richardson? I think it's minor. He's done great things for us here in NM, and he is solid on energy. The topic of Monica hardly ever comes up when people are talking about Clinton. They see his accomplishments, not his sexual activity. It doesn't make sense to me to say, 'Hey, this guy is a great politician, he will take us places we need to go, but, sorry, he had an affair, so no go.' It ridiculous.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:10 PM
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33. It still amazes me that the American people want to decide
who will represent them based on who is diddling whom! :rofl:
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:12 PM
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35. Washington would be empty if fidelity was the major criteria for getting voted in. lol nt
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LiberalCommiePinko Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:21 PM
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39. I always read about this
crap with his infidelity on the net, but I've never seen it proven or substantiated. You gotta give something more than internet chatter. I think it's bogus.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:12 AM
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15. "We ... must ... not ... question ... authority" "We ... must ... not ... question ... authority"
"we ... must ... not ... question ... authority." "We ... must ... not ... question ... authority." "we ... must ... not ... question ... authority." "We ... must ... not ... question ... authority."

And the war with Oceana went on and on and on. No one questioned it.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess....Clinton supporter, right? Any post that even seems to question the Clinton appointment (which this post does not) is not allowed, as heretical.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:39 PM
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37. Your limb would be broken
cause you're wrong on all count, if you can't figure out who I support then you and
me have nothing to share, but I will say this to you though how dare you question
my loyalty just because I'm stating the obvious.

Since we're going on a limb, how about I give it a go, ARE YOU FOR DIVISIVE
discussion then???? :shrug: why else would you jump to conclusion...:shrug:




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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:00 AM
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4. Commerce is actually a pretty important agency.
It's not as glamorous and high profile as State, but that's the department that would be looking at stuff like net neutrality. They oversee NOAA, which tracks global warming and hurricanes. The Iraq and Afghanistan Reconstruction Task Forces are also part of the Commerce Department. Secretary of Commerce is not a minor position -- lots of really important stuff going on. Richardson will have a lot of important things to do.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:03 AM
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8. None of the Departments are minor positions
and there is so much that needs fixing, I am glad we have such a deep field to choose from.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:14 AM
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17. Its an extremely important appointment... renegotiating nafta
Getting a more level playing field with trade partners. We will need a seasoned diplomat for that post. I think its a GREAT pick
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:13 PM
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36. Don't forget international trade agreements and the Census
Hardly an insignificant postion.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:00 AM
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5. Some people just can't let go of the fact that he chose Obama over the Clintons.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 11:00 AM by Skwmom
The campaign against him is on the level of a grade school bully. But when I look at the intellectually capacity of that crowd I'm not surprised......
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:03 AM
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6. Is that what's going on?
I keep seeing disparaging posts about Richardson for some reason. :shrug:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:04 AM
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9. What campaign against him? nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:14 AM
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16. All the Richardson-hate. How could you have missed it?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:16 AM
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18. Where?? Here on DU? Is that your proof for a
"campaign against Richardson"?If it is,it's laughable.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:00 PM
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28. Yes, there are plenty of James "Judas" Carville kindred souls here.
But Kool-Aide drinkers are blind as well as deaf and dumb.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:02 PM
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31. I haven't really noticed much Richardson hate
All everyone does is talk about Hillary. The little I've heard about Richardson has been positive.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:03 AM
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7. I'd say anything to do with commerce right now will
be pretty damned important.I doubt that Ricardson feels any sorrow at all and will do what is asked,if asked.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:04 AM
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10. A lot of people would love to be Commerce Secretary. He's happy to have it
Or he could simply stay as Governor of a State
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:07 AM
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11. I don't consider the post unimportant and I doubt he does either.
I think it is an excellent post for him given his background and Obama's agenda.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:07 AM
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12. Not invisible at all
with all of the trade issues, international debt, outsourcing, export control, there is a LOT for him to handle.

And by the way the Commerce Secretary heads the department that handles patents and trademarks. Intellectual Property is a very hot topic.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:09 AM
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13. He's got to be disappointed. He wanted VP or SOS.
I remember seeing him on MSNBC or CNN (can't remember) after Biden was announced VP.

He looked and sounded so sad.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:20 AM
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20. Yes, that's all I meant by my post. I'm not saying he SHOULD'VE been apptd something else.
I'm just acknowledging what is probably his sadness, since he really did go out on a limb in endorsing Obama when he did.

At least he DID get in the cabinet, and it's an A-class cabinet.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:21 AM
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21. It's clear he wanted as much visibility as possible, but he'll be fine.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:37 AM
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23. In these economic times the Commerce Secretary is extremely visible /nt
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:37 AM
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24. Given this economy, do you really think Commerce is "unimportant"? n/t
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:42 AM
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25. I don't.
He got more than he deserves.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:47 AM
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26. How about your choice of McCain?
Did he get what he deserves?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:57 AM
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27. I voted for Obama.
anything else?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:02 PM
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29. You feel sorry for Bill Richardson?
:rofl:

Let me give you some comfort. He'll be just fine. ;-)
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:02 PM
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30. Richardson had a great record for job creation and increased trade sounds
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 12:07 PM by cooolandrew
an ideal pick. Richardson seeems a humble guy I think he will be happy to be part of an hisoric administration and he will make his mark. They all had a shot at being president if somethings were never meant to be they were never ment to be. Richardson going off what I have seen of him will do his very best for the american people and that will come first. Barack's main thrust has been we are all equal and no one person will be more or lesser in importance in his cabinet.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:12 PM
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34. Trade relations
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 12:12 PM by Jake3463
is hardly a low profile job when the President-Elect said he wanted to look closely at our Trade Agreements.
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