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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:25 PM Original message |
Why In the Hell Should Obama Appoint Someone Just Because They're Gay? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. and because that GLBT person may be the most qualified, too |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, he should have a Native American cabinet member as well. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. First, I didn't say cabinet. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Deleted sub-thread |
RedLetterRev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
90. I'd be thrilled to see |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
112. And you forgot Hmong refugees, .....what about Cajuns? |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. As long as they're as or more qualified than other potential appointees, sure. nt |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Of course there are qualified people in the GLBT community. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No administration has had a high level, out GLBT appointee. |
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datopbanana (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. BEING "QUALIFIED" DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME AS "MOST QUALIFIED" |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. THEN WHO THE FUCK IS 'MOST QUALIFIED'? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
116. You are simply full of shit here. The poster you responded to |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Agreed. |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Where did I say there weren't qualified GLBT candidates? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I didn't say you did. |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. You said, "Of course there are qualified people in the GLBT community," |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. There's a lot to reply to there, but I'll start with 'What if Obama appointed NO women'? |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. I want the best person for the job, period. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. We're getting nowhere. |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. You're right in that we're getting nowhere. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. You think one out gay politician is enough to make gay kids think they have a future? |
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datopbanana (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
73. Last1, you couldn't be more wrong about all of this. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I was only wrong in thinking that you would be on our side AFTER the election. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
92. No, he is totally right -- take off the self-righteous blinders |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #92 |
114. Do you ever say anything that's not a snipe? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
130. all it takes is one out politician |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
107. Agreed. As a black female, |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Exactly. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
129. Barney Frank has become a repug target |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
132. Rusk and McNamara were "the smartest mothefunckers in the room." |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is a strawman arguement... What position are you talking about? And for that position who? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. This isn't about a specific person or position. |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Can a gay American service in a cabinet position? YES! But who now, and for what? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Professor Plum, in the Drawing Room, with the Wrench! |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. I agree with what you are saying but you never have a person |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. That's my point in a nutshell. There's no one out there to look up to. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I'm hoping as time goes on and hopefully very soon all people |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. The time is now. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
119. So we need more courageous gay politicians who aren't afraid to |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. The greatest African American role model the world has ever known did not become so.. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Thank You...Thurgood sticks out in my mind...he studied his ass off |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. So there's never been a GLBT person who's worked hard enough? |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Just eliminate the word "just" from your OP title, and I think we'll all agree with you. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The word 'just' is there because so many here are using that word to keep us down. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Ok, I think I get it now: |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. What I really meant was what hope is there for 33% of all gay teens who attempt suicide? |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. no no no...not what i'm saying..go up thread to our other conversation, |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Look, I don't think that many here would actually be against appointing a GLBT person. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. As far as that goes, I think, yeah, it may do a bit of good... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Showing minorities are not only qualified but have a chance at a successful future is very important |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Tell me who in Lincoln's cabinet was straight? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. "They would have never been able to let anyone know". |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. NOW you're getting my point. ;) NT |
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zuul9 (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
32. Appointing a GLBT cabinet member doesn't seem that controversial |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
40. Obama the Savior of All of Humanity. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. The ignorance of your post says everything I need to ever know about you. |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Now, that's an ignorant thing to say. Do you even know what my point is? |
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Darth_Ole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Obama must adopt a gay dog |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I bet you'd have a problem with that, too. Just a hunch. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
91. . |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. We know what your point is |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. You need to get your nose checked, then, because I am not saying that at all. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. "Self-absorbed navel gazing"? |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Still looking at your navel, I see. Look up, dude. The world is much |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
122. Yep, we need more narcissists in the mix. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
120. Welcome to DU. Good post. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
133. we'll stop lobbying for our own interests when everyone else |
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briv1016 (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
45. In nutshell, the world is too fucked-up for "token" or "poster boy/girl" appointees. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I think the OP was going for irony and did not mean "just because" they're gay |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Thanks Bluedawg, but I give up. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. never give up last1standing-- |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. I know. |
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briv1016 (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Why do you feel that an appointee's sexual orientation should be factored into there qualification? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Name one openly GLBT person who has EVER been appointed to a high office in this country. |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. What's more important is the low number of openly gay persons who run for office. |
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briv1016 (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I will be the first to admit |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:07 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. This isn't a perfect world and the playing field isn't level. |
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briv1016 (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #66 |
86. Which do you think would be a better role model, |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Not one? You sure? 100% sure? |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. If that's true, it was a lousy request to be heard. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
56. Token-ism is as bad as racism. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. You don't believe there's one single GLBT person qualified for a single position? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I don't believe there's one person who should be promoted because they're gay, black, or catholic. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. When did Roy Cohn come out? I must have missed that. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:21 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You think people in the closet should suffer? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. No, I think those who push people into the closet should suffer. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
128. I don't give a damn about being discriminated against? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. "You people?" |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
110. He didn't say "you people" |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
125. Huh? What's with meta-quoting something I didn't say? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Oh, it does seem like one in three gay teens attempting suicide is suffering |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
113. . |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
98. You just called Affirmative Action programs unconstitutional, do you realize that??? |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
111. He didn't say that. |
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Veruca Salt (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
124. I've said it before in another thread and I'll say it again here... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. The OP just wants a spokesperson for teen suicide and depression |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Are you serious? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. I can see why you feel like you are stuck back in the Reagan 80's |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
82. "it's just teen suicide" nothing different? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
127. Yes, being LBGTQ is a huge risk factor. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
67. These are horrifying statistics |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Thanks for being the very first person to post about this in the thread. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. I give the OP credit for looking this up and understanding the issues |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
75. What makes you think that an Obama appointment would change any of those things?! |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. It's called the hope of youth and asking for a seat at the table. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. You didnt answer any of my questions. nt |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. You had a question? |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Oh NOESSS! I asked the OP to give logic to their theory... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. It's in the OP: it is about hope |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Oh, ok. So we'll just "hope" it makes a difference? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Having a voice within this particular adminsitration is a sound idea |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Now youre completely changing the subject. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. The OP is addressing that affirmation would have a positive benefit to gay teens |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
85. Could you explain how this "solution" is related to this "problem"? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. I read the OP as a petition for a voice within the administration |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
103. The logic of our past history for GLBTQ issues |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
117. Which of course, completely misses the point of the OP or my question |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
87. Do You Have Names Of Gay People Who Would Be The MOST Qualified For A Given Position? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. Does such a position exist yet? Hard to come up with names if this is the hope |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
88. The kind of thugs who beat up and kill gay people |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
89. Pure garbage |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. "Nice try at sympathy. Unfortunately, I'm dead to all of that" |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Being dead to all that - some here may be dead to all this too? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
93. his cabinet should reflect the people of this country |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. That say's it pretty neatly. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
106. The picture of Matt Shepherd and the Pres. Elect Obama admin ARE totally relevant! |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
108. Want to help ensure LBGT representation in the Obama administration? |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #108 |
121. This is a saner approach... |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
109. I just want the best person for the job. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
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madmadmad (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
126. i would love to see an out gay or lesbian high level adminstration official, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
131. I'd agree that prominent LGBT appointments would be good. |
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Max_powers94 (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
134. at the end of the day..homosexual is gay nt |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
135. Just don't rule out people because they are gay |
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