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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:13 PM
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I Have A Couple Of Things To Say To You GD2004 People
I mean to disparage NONE of you BUT.....

Its time to get a couple of things into perspective. Lets look at some facts here.

Can YOU remember a time when any pResident was so actively protested? I am 35 and it hasn't happened in MY lifetime (save for when I was 1 years old). I have BEEN to many protests and even started a few. The word on the street has been OVERWHELMING!

Larger protests of ANY Convention (even 1968).

BANNERS/BUTTONS/STICKERS EVERYWHERE

Engagement. People are MORE INFORMED than ever before. We (YOU) are engaging your coworkers, friends, family, neighbors and WE HAVE CONVERTED HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS!

ACTIVISM: It Is EVERYWHERE and there is good reason for that!

Political books are abundant and I won't even GO into the crowds for F/911

POINT?

You Doom&Gloomers aren't looking at the big picture here. If each and every one of you put HALF your energy into ENGAGING the people in your life and EDUCATING them, this would be a LANDSLIDE for our team.

Cut It Out.

Turn Off Your Cable.

Get your email lists together and START THE CAMPAIGN NOW!!!!

I've converted some pretty tough people. YOU CAN TOO!

You have 53 Days.

Use them wisely.

Thank You and I :loveya: all.

this post was written in haste. it is neither profound nor meant to be uplifting. it is to "say" one simple thing: WE HAVE 53 DAYS DAMMIT!!! STOP watching Cable News Polls and help ENSURE we are victorious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:17 PM
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1. I don't care a
Cheney about these polls. My sixth sense says Kerry in a LANDSLIDE.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:17 PM
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2. Amen, and thank you.
Please note Dan Rather is going to refute "IBM-Gate" tonight.


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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:18 PM
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3. what time? do you know?
thanks
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:27 PM
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10. Here's the link
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:19 PM
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5. I'm looking forward to that. eom
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:27 PM
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11. I hope so, but I cannot trust any media anymore....I saw on the
cbs thing and hope this turn out right.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:19 PM
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4. Got your back
Thanks
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:21 PM
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6. So true, sitting here gives one tunnel vision, there is a revolution in
the air just go out and you will see. I see it in the fact that even the strongest repugs in my neigborhood don't have the usual Bullshit/asswipe stickers anywhere. There is shame from the Repugs at this sham.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:26 PM
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9. So true
I saw a Land Rover today with one of those "W" stickers on it and thought, "Oh well." This is, after all, Alabama.

Then I noticed the license plate -- Michigan.

Damn. Don't we have enough Republicans down here as it is? Michigan should take out its own trash. LOL
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:21 PM
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7. "Turn off your cable"
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 03:21 PM by deutsey
Best. Advice. Ever.

Bill Hicks called TV "Lucifer's Dream Box." With Bush in power, that has become all the more accurate.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:26 PM
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8. Don't the British
call TV the Idiot Box ?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:28 PM
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12. Not coincidentally, the British loved Bill Hicks
He was a huge hit in England.

Hardly anyone has heard of him here in America.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:31 PM
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13. GOOD POST 1000% CONCUR - TOO MUCH TIME WASTED ON WORTHLESS GOP BS!!
This whole document fraud deal is a GOP - Free Republic "plant". We know if for a fact! Move on.......

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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:08 PM
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29. Where did you get the graphic?

I'd like to 200-300 of them all over Phoenix.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:32 PM
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14. "Turn off your cable"
I suspect more people watched Oprah, Ellen, Springer, and the soaps all morning and right now, than CNN, FOX, MSNBC will get over 24 hours.
The sky isn't falling, neither should our morale...

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:33 PM
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15. slap yo hippos
Where's Al Sharpton when ya need to slap those donkeys?
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:33 PM
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16. the feel good post of the day!
I don't personally know ANYONE who watches cable news, and if it weren't for reading so many threads about it here on DU, I wouldn't have the slightest idea what those bozos were saying. I don't think those punk-dits (sic) have nearly the influence so many here think they do. I betcha 9 1/2 times out of ten those who watch are the already decided.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:35 PM
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17. Dupe
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:36 PM
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18. Thanks, matcom
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 03:36 PM by tandot
I see lots of Kerry bumper sticker in rural SW Oklahoma and N Texas. And lots of people are positively commenting on my anti-Bush bumper stickers.

People around here are usually afraid to speak out loud because of the Bible-belt mentality here. But I was surprised about how many people I thought were Republicans plan to vote for Kerry.

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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:36 PM
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19. Yeah, Last Time It Happened McGovern Was Running
Activists are people with attention spans paying attention. For the rest of us, there's 24 hour news channels.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:37 PM
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20. I can remember LBJ getting protested by a large portion of
the population. Hey hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today?
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:37 PM
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21. Way to go matcom
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:38 PM
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22. You people? YOU PEOPLE?
LOL j/k :P
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:39 PM
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23. would you have perferred.....
"You yaks!!" YOU YAKS!!!! :D
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:49 PM
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24. Yes, I remember the Vietnam War protests....
the whole Nixon time was a horrible time for America and the atmosphere felt exactly like it does today. During those times, protest marches did a world of good, the folk music protesting the war did a world of good, the media did a world of good, they did actual investigative reporting.

My Kerry Meet Up group has registered hundreds of new voters, in a state that will probably go bu$h.

I hate to say it, but it will be when the lemmings finally have their eyes opened and take to the streets, that true change will come. IMHO
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:58 PM
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27. I rmemeber the Vietnam era too
and 2004 is very different. And it feels totally different to me. Media is now owned almost exclusively by the GOP types. What is characterized as reporting these days is actaually shilling for the GOP. Remember Woodward & Bernstein? Daniel Ellsburg and the New York Times cracking open the BS about Vietnam? The right wing was NOWHERE near as strong back then. Liberalism was on the rise back then and conservatism is on the rise now.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:39 PM
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28. well, let's hope that history makes a circle,
and that "our time" of liberalism comes back around soon!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:13 PM
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31. I know, I know....
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:52 PM
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25. Don't know if critical mass is really on our side, but
your message is right on. What else can we do but empower our faith through action.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:56 PM
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26. Protest size is irrelevant
All that matter is the final vote. Sure, 30% of this country is so royally pissed off at Bush that they will take time off to go protest. What does that tell you about the remaining 70%? Absolutely nothing. I agree that with hard work we can pull this thing out, but I don't take as much comfort from the size of protests as you do...
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:18 PM
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30. My dear I saw people a hell of a lot more engaged then now
Yes it was in the 60's. The great protests of today would seem like a Sunday School picnic. America was burning...literally. It wasn't only Nam; our inner cities were set on fire and half destroyed. Detroit, for example, was a downtown ghost of a city by 1968 when I drove through it from the riots. People were killed -- as in died for protesting. AND because we didn't have this fucking ass crap tv we have today, people only had the three networks to watch and they covered things. Conventions were covered from the first word to the last. Bodies in Nam were actually shown, etc. This is such a mamby-pamby nothing compared to then and people thingk this is a "bid deal" which shows just how much of a joke it's all become. I'm surprised half of them even know that 9/11 happened. If they didn't manage to torch this government back then, trust me, you aren't mounting some second charge up Bunker Hill (which really was another hill and not much more than a bump on the soil anyhow). We have managed to awaken squat in this land because of the media---both the news media and the fact that everyone is watching some dipshit reality tv. Politics is dead. Very dumb blank minds where anything can be written on abound.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:23 PM
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32. You're telling it like I remember it.
Very different days with the race riots, Vietnam, huge protests. The news back then WAS THE NEWS. Events were covered. Students protesting all over the country. I remember Westmoreland always talking body count and also that if he had as much body count as he said he had, it would have been all of Vietnam dead. One general after another, one Vietnamese government puppet after another. People protesting like crazy. Nixon and his secret plan to end the war (did he lie more or less than Bush) and the US helicopters pulling the people off of the US Embassy roof minutes before the Vietcong rolled into town. Geez!!
The American people were way different then.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:40 PM
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33. I took on my Rethug allergist yesterday and he AGREED with me!
He brought up drug prices but it was clear quickly that he believed it was something to be accepted. So I reluctantly pointed out that there is no reason that Americans should be subsidizing the rest of the advanced world by paying higher prices simply because their governments won't sit for it and ours *encourages* it. One argument led to another (they need the $ for R & D vs. Big Pharma is THE most profitable industry in the US) and while I don't think he will vote for Kerry, he did say he agreed. Hey I know better than to pick fights with medical people but he wanted to discuss it, so I did. :-)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:43 PM
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34. You're the best matcom!
:loveya: right back at ya!!
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