NYTimes Regarding the "Forged Memos"

[ItsMyParty]

By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE and JIM RUTENBERG

Published: September 10, 2004

(snipit)

Philip Bouffard, a forensic document specialist from Ohio who created a commonly used database of at least 3,000 old type fonts, said he had suspicions as well. "I found nothing like this in any of my typewriter specimens," said Dr. Bouffard, a Democrat. He also said the fonts were "certainly consistent with what I see in Times Roman," the commonly used Microsoft Word font.

However, Dr. Bouffard said, a colleague had called his attention to similarities between the font in the memos and that of the IBM Selectric Composer of the early 1970's.

But he said it would be unusual for Mr. Bush's commanding officer to have had the IBM machine because of its large size.

Dr. Bouffard said he would see if the fonts match more closely on Friday. "The problem I'm going to run into if this matches and Times Roman matches, to the extent of what we are able to see on these poor miserable copies that are passing around,'' he said, "then I don't think anybody's going to be able to say for sure.''

----(from a senior ex at CBS):

"We did have a number of experts,'' he said, adding that the producers also showed the documents to numerous people who worked with Colonel Killian and who said the memos were consistent with what he thought and representative of the sorts of documents he produced back then.

"It would be unbelievable for a forger to have written documents that could so closely reflect what the people closest to Killian said,'' he said, "that this is his tone of voice, what he thought back then, this is the situation back then. It would be a little odd to think that these things could have just surfaced.''

CBS News executives also produced a document released earlier by the White House about Mr. Bush's service that was clearly from a typewriter and had a superscript "th'' in it. CBS said it proved that some typewriters did indeed have superscript keys. But the characters were hard to make out after so much reproducing of the document, a problem, the CBS News official acknowledged, with the documents in the initial "60 Minutes'' program; those documents were not originals and have been copied repeatedly.

www.newyorktimes.com

[jumpstart33]

1. All they have to do is to produce some "other documents" from Killian's

files. That seems simple enough to me.

[dave29]

5. Now why didn't

6000 journalists think of that?

Compare these files to his others.

seems simple to me too.

[Search Party]

2. can this get any more stupid?

the media look like idiots today

which is not any different from any other day

[ItsMyParty]

3. thing that caught my eye was that they at least emphasize the

fact that the WH released documents with the "th" thing a ma jig also. So doesn't that kind of show that their are official documents of all sorts around that were produced by the military during that time with this type of typewriter??? I hope tonight - cause everyone is going to be watching CBS - that Dan has an indepth analysis of this and showing these typewriters and what was used at that time, etc.

[somerled42]

4. We are being distracted

From the real issues of Bush's National guard service. Everyone is running around talking about this 60 minutes thing, and everyone forgets the other files that the pentagon themselves 'found' earlier this week. Lets ignore these 4 pieces of paper, and pick up where we were.

[AmerDem]

6. The freeper,CNN,FAUX News "fraud" talking point is officially DEBUNKED!

Now let's get back to throwing shrubs spineless background in his face!