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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:16 AM Original message |
From Open Left and Fire Dog Lake: 50 State Strategy staffers being let go? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for posting this, mad. Please post any updates you come across. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Few care. We have new heroes now. The kind who like top down power. |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The 50 state organization is expensive as hell. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. How are we needed? To do what? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Redistricting and bolstering the state legislatures. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I am sure there will be plenty to do it. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. Oh puhleeeezzz! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Why don't we get a mutual agreement going here. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Losing infrastructure in states we just started to win will prove to be MORE expensive to our party. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. I fear that is just what happened, blm. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. people are getting laid off everywhere |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. This seems like a boneheaded idea but maybe they will retain a small staff in each state |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. The program from the beginning was only through the end of November |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. And the permanent campaign, the money to the states will cease. |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yup |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. This it the coup that failed in 2006. Now they got their way. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. The reason why the DNC is in debt |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Oh dear God, that's specious AT BEST, and you know it. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. No, actually, that is pretty much true. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. The DNC paid for the 50 State Strategy staffers |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No, it's the DNC staffers being laid off. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. What evidence do you have? |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I was told by a member of our state party's executive committee |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. And where did they get that information? |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Plouffe had nothing to do with it |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. Noooooooo |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
12. Why is Dean not going to cont. being the DNC Chairman? nt |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Howard Dean said he only wanted 1 term as DNC Chair |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. Oh, good. I was afraid they were firing him. HHS sounds good. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Tom Daschle is in line for HHS |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
13. This is a rumor so far |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It's more than a rumor, I'm afraid |
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BEZERKO (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. If the organizers are laid off and the 50 state strategy is dropped, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. They won't need our money now. We had a goal. Now we don't. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
17. More verification. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Blogs and comments in blogs are not solid sources of information |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Maine Dem verified. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Dean is not out until Feb. 2009 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. The DNC has been Obama's since he became the nominee. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. I really don't think Obama is going to let the organization that was created just |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
21. I'm confused. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Dean was paying staff in each state. Now they are gone. |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Okay then the states should take over that staff |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. It's very difficult for state parties to raise money |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. With the current Obama infrastructure in place |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I think by letting staffers go right after the big win... |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I think we have to see what happens in January |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Could be that he wants to defer to the state Chairs to take over. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The states don't have that much money. |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. We'll have to see, we can't know that a priori |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. No, it does not make sense. |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Del-nt |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. The states need to implement an auto-donation system. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. That's what I am saying. Dean tried that monthly small donations stuff. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
25. Dems are amazing. We accept this stuff so easily...so casually. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. There's another way to look at this, Madfloridian, and we don't know--and can't know-- |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
28. Perhaps it would be wise to send some down to Ga. now for the runoff. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
31. That's a Shame. Maybe They Expect An Even Bigger Landslide in 2012? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
36. The DNC has stated that from now on, 3 million dollars will be set aside every ...... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Maine Dem just posted facts above. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I'm going by what the DNC said, no one from the DNC has gone on record ....... |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
44. The party leader should be completely separate from the administration. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. In years when a party wins the White House, the President is considered |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R-- I too hope the 50-state strategy will continue. It was such a relief |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
52. Long post at Kos...more details. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
53. I really doubt this is true. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. It's true. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
83. Because you say it is? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
56. No.... this is NOT OK. |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. K&R for confirmation and clarification. eom |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
58. The significance is that there's no need for these staffers |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. Nothing but rumors spread to cut off our party at the knees |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Why, indeed? |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Who will fund this permanent strategy? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Actually that was the dream....I wrote of it many times. 20 a month from |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
68. Is somebody jealous of Dean's popularity? nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
73. Obama's the enemy now |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
75. Obama/DNC do not have the resources to sustain the field offices. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. There could have been resources if we cared about it enough. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
78. Leave it to the DLC to destroy the party once again. The DLC is the enemy within. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. LOL! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
80. Many people did not want Dean to be chair in the first place. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
82. Proof from last month. The 50 State plan ends Dec. 1 |
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