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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:22 PM
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Fredrick Douglas and Abraham Lincoln


Election Night before We knew the results.

SUPPORTING LINCOLN

In spite of the seeming pro-slavery policy of the Lincoln administration, Douglass was earnestly working in the President,s support. He was wise enough to understand that if Lincoln in the beginning, had stated his policy to be, not only to save the Union, but also to free the slaves, all would have been lost. In his speeches Douglass always emphasized "the mission of the war was the liberation of the slaves as well as the salvation of the Union. I reproached the North that they fought with one hand, while they might fight more effectively with two; that they fought with the soft white hand, while they kept the black iron hand chained and helpless behind them; that they fought the effect, while they protected the cause; and said that the Union cause would never prosper until the war assumed an anti-slavery attitude and the Negro was enlisted on the side of the Union."

Douglass saw the Civil War as a struggle between freedom and slavery. For him, the sin of slavery could only be ended if Americans were forced to shed their blood. John Brown would be vindicated and blacks could take their place as citizens and equals. It was not until January 1863, following the promulgation of the Emancipation Proclamation, that Gov. John Andrew of Massachusetts was given permission to raise the 54th Regiment of Colored Troops. Douglass became a recruiter, personally enlisting two companies of men, including two of his own sons, Charles and Lewis.

It was decided not to give the black soldiers the same pay as that allowed to the white troops. Negro soldiers were to receive only seven dollars per month. Regular pay was $13 a month. Douglass was distressed by the restrictions put upon these soldiers, but said, "While I, of course, was deeply pained and saddened by the estimate thus put upon my race, and grieved at the slowness of heart which marked the conduct of the loyal government, I was not discouraged and urged every man who would enlist to get an eagle on his button, a musket on his shoulder, and the star and spangle over his head." Only through black participation in the war, he believed, could abolition and full citizenship for Negroes be established.

VISITING LINCOLN

In July 1863, Douglass met with Lincoln in the White House to redress the grievances that the black troops were suffering as second-class citizens. It was unheard of for a colored man to go to the White House with a grievance. But he had many influential friends and admirers in Washington, and Senators Sumner, Wilson, and Pomeroy; Secretary of the Treasury Chase, Assistant Secretary of War Dana all guaranteed safe passage into Lincoln,s presence. Senator Pomeroy introduced Douglass to the President and they soon found that they had much in common. The one had traveled a long hard path from the slave cabin of Maryland, and the other a thorny road from the scant and rugged life of Kentucky, to the high position of President. The one was too great to be a slave, and the other too noble to remain, in such a national crisis, a private citizen.

Douglass stated three complaints to the President: that colored troops be paid the same as white troops; that they be fairly treated, especially when captured by the Confederates (some colored troops had been summarily executed or sent into slavery); and that colored troops should receive the same promotions as whites, when their valor in battle demanded it. A few days later, President Lincoln issued an order "that for every soldier of the United States killed in violation of the laws of war, a rebel soldier shall be executed; and for every one enslaved by the enemy or sold into slavery, a rebel soldier shall be placed at hard labour on the public works."

This was the first of Douglass, visits to the White House. At one such meeting, he relates, "while in conversation with him , his secretary twice announced Governor Buckingham of Connecticut, one of the noblest and most patriotic of the loyal governors. Mr. Lincoln said: Tell Governor Buckingham to wait, for I want to have a long talk with my friend, Frederick Douglass., I interposed and begged him to see the governor at once, as I could wait, but no, he persisted that that he wanted to talk with me and that Governor Buckingham could wait. In his company I was never in any way reminded of my humble origin, or of my unpopular colour." Before the end of the war, many black soldiers were receiving equal pay and promotions. During the last two years of the war about 200,000 African Americans served in Union regiments. When given the chance to fight, blacks proved as brave as anyone. More than 30,000 died fighting for freedom and the Union.

THE DEATH OF LINCOLN

Douglass was in Boston when Richmond fell. He was the honored speaker at many meetings. He had reason to feel not only joy but also gratitude. It was clear that all he had hoped and struggled for was soon to be realized. The close of the war and the overthrow of the institution of slavery was for him a sort of personal victory. But his rejoicing was soon turned to mourning. At the time of the assassination of President Lincoln he was in Rochester, and he spoke at a meeting held to express the sorrow that that event created. A friend related the occasion:

"Rochester court-house never held a larger crowd than was gathered to mourn over the martyred President. The most eloquent men at the Bar and the pulpit, with carefully prepared and earnestly uttered addresses, opened the meeting. All the time the people were not aroused. Douglass, who told me that he would not speak because he was not invited, sat crowded in the rear. At last the feeling could be restrained no more; and his name burst upon the air from every side and filled the house. The dignified gentlemen who directed had to surrender.

Then came the finest appeal in behalf of the father of his people, who had died for them especially, and would be mourned by them as long as one remained in America who had been a slave. I have heard Webster and Clay in their best moments; Channing and Beecher in their highest inspirations. I never heard truer eloquence; I never saw profounder impression. When he finished the meeting was done."

In her grief, and with the assistance of her personal aide, Elizabeth Keckley, Mary Todd Lincoln sent mementos to special people. Among the recipients of some of the President's canes were the black abolitionist, Henry Highland Garnet, and a White House servant, William Slade. But to Douglass Mrs. Lincoln sent the President's favorite walking staff, (on display today at Cedar Hill, Douglass' home in Washington, DC). In his remarkable letter of reply, Douglass assured the First Lady that he would forever possess the cane as an "object of sacred interest," not only for himself, but also because of Mr. Lincoln's "humane interest in the welfare of my whole race." In this expression of gratitude, Douglass evoked the enduring symbolic bond between the sixteenth President and many African Americans.

http://www.rense.com/general63/friend.htm
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:26 PM
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1. Thank you.
That was very interesting, and it makes me want to read more. Thank you for posting it.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:34 PM
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2. Fredrick Douglas had a long deep relationship with Lincoln
which was mutally respectful and revered.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:39 PM
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3. I was bored with history as a school kid, but I am fascinated by it now.
Unfortunately, I find little time for leisure reading, but I will be looking for a bio of Frederick Douglas and/or Abraham Lincoln, in the near future.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:16 PM
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5. have often wondered about that phenomenon
I think schools teach such a broad overview they dwell on dates and events and don't get to the evolution of ideas and peoples. How people lived and what led to what has always fascinated me.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:27 PM
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6. I think it is due to the short amount of time devoted to an overview of history.
Once kids get to the intellectual maturity level in which they can understand the complex concepts of history, there is so little time to give an overview. So instead of getting into the interesting details, like the relationship between Douglas and Lincoln, we are left only with the basics.... who did what when.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:44 PM
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4. Douglas changed history by talking to Abraham Lincoln
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:28 PM
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7. Lincoln had a black friend, he could not have been racist.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:34 PM
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9. oversimplification.
fail.


I am not saying whether or not Lincoln was racist, because I can't be the judge of that, but your implication is a massive oversimplification.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:44 PM
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11. What is this post supposed to mean then? It is a reference to the other Lincoln
post where people were being honest about Lincoln's true feelings about black people.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:44 PM
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12. I agree. Although very nice, this information does not exonerate Lincoln's racist views at all.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 10:45 PM by political_Dem
It only further complicates a "flawed man" who still felt that Black people were inferior.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:32 PM
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8. thank you
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:38 PM
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10. That was precious, IChing..thank you.
I have no idea why that made me so verklempt!
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