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livedemocarticordie Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:27 PM
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What Will the "UNDECIDED"s Do?
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 12:39 PM by livedemocarticordie
SO FOLKS, here is the deal, my husband and I have been having this discussion for three dinner cycles now. What will the so cslled "undecided"s do?

Go for McCain; Go for Barack or Stay home.

I think 55% McCain 30% Barack and 15% stay at home.

Paint me cynical, but to me, the most dangerous person in the world is the so called undecided. I believe there are very very few actual undecideds. They usually know who they are voting for, they just don't want "to say."

What do you think? My husband thinks many will stay home.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:29 PM
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1. Rachel Maddow said it best last week
"Still undecided after looking at the menu for two years?!?"
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:31 PM
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2. I think anybody who is STILL undecided will vote Obama because
people who have great difficulty making their own decisions always go with the obvious winner. It's just their nature not to make waves or go against the flow.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:33 PM
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3. The Bandwagon Effect
It is real and it definitely favors Obama.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:35 PM
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6. And unlike the Bradley Effect,
it's proven.
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:34 PM
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4. I really hope many of them will stay home...
If you can't decide between these 2 candidates, nobody needs you to decide an election. Could McCain and Obama possibly be more different?
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:34 PM
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5. Some won't vote!
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:36 PM
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7. In fact MOST dont vote .. I heard this on NPR this morning and the ones that do vote tend
to vote against the incumbent.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:37 PM
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8. It depends on why they are "undecided".
That is a bigger question, why are they "undecided"? I know some who have been looking for the final impetus to get past the religiousist, racist and sexist issues (vote for Obama even though he is black, don't vote for Palin even though she is female, X-tian vs Muslim bs).

I know some who are scared to vote Dem since they have always voted Repub, the part of "business", since they have a small business which has suffered the last 8 yrs.

And yes, I've been working with them on these.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:41 PM
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9. I think Obama will get 40% - 45% of voting undecideds;
Your 15% staying home sounds reasonable, so that would be
something like 34% - 38% Obama and  47% - 52% for McCain, 15%
at home.

Here are my state by state Obama undecided projections based
on leaners and independents, compared with Nate's which are
based more on demographics.  We both average to ~50% across
the states, but that does not weight for population
differences.

State	Me	Nate Silver	Difference
AL 	31.40%	60.90%	-29.50%
AK 	43.82%	53.40%	-9.58%
AZ 	42.81%	46.00%	-3.19%
AR 	38.64%	56.80%	-18.16%
CA 	64.17%	42.90%	21.27%
CO 	63.20%	51.80%	11.40%
CT 	51.15%	44.60%	6.55%
DE 	56.00%	53.70%	2.30%
DC 	65.93%	64.40%	1.53%
FL 	59.32%	52.40%	6.92%
GA 	42.50%	63.00%	-20.50%
HI 	66.42%	50.50%	15.92%
ID 	39.00%	45.40%	-6.40%
IL 	51.46%	48.30%	3.16%
IN 	48.57%	57.80%	-9.23%
IA 	58.41%	56.90%	1.51%
KS 	43.55%	51.40%	-7.85%
KY 	34.42%	43.40%	-8.98%
LA 	31.67%	50.70%	-19.03%
ME 	56.95%	42.60%	14.35%
MD 	31.18%	61.50%	-30.32%
MA 	53.73%	41.00%	12.73%
MI 	47.94%	51.50%	-3.56%
MN 	53.31%	50.20%	3.11%
MS 	41.79%	64.40%	-22.61%
MO 	49.71%	51.60%	-1.89%
MT 	46.40%	48.00%	-1.60%
NE 	43.73%	49.80%	-6.07%
NV 	50.82%	46.70%	4.12%
NH 	58.37%	42.20%	16.17%
NJ 	54.11%	45.00%	9.11%
NM 	57.51%	40.00%	17.51%
NY 	55.42%	44.60%	10.82%
NC 	48.73%	58.00%	-9.27%
ND 	45.12%	45.50%	-0.38%
OH 	51.36%	47.20%	4.16%
OK 	43.79%	56.50%	-12.71%
OR 	65.30%	51.00%	14.30%
PA 	65.38%	44.80%	20.58%
RI 	64.71%	35.00%	29.71%
SC 	39.14%	61.10%	-21.96%
SD 	48.01%	46.40%	1.61%
TN 	38.54%	52.30%	-13.76%
TX 	37.67%	48.30%	-10.63%
UT 	50.86%	50.60%	0.26%
VT 	71.61%	43.70%	27.91%
VA 	54.21%	57.80%	-3.59%
WA 	53.82%	52.70%	1.12%
WV 	52.09%	38.60%	13.49%
WI 	52.55%	56.50%	-3.95%
WY 	42.17%	46.60%	-4.43%
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:45 PM
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10. Sherri on the view said this morning she was undecided
but the way she talked about Obama's half hour show and the way she fact checked something about McCain and found it went to Obama's side made me think she is only pretending to be undecided so Elizabeth will be nice to her.

She says it has to do with the war but I wonder more for her if it is religion because she talks about God alot.

So who knows?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:45 PM
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11. I heard this discussion the other day on tv. The person being interviewed stated
that those who are undecided now are people who aren't very political, but they do vote. They tend to vote for the person who is leading in the polls. If that's so, it will be more votes for Obama.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 01:52 PM
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12. I honestly think they will break McGollum
like 50/35 with the remainder voting third party or staying home.

I could be wrong, Obama may dominate these people like Reagan did in 80, with folks wanting reassurance before making a change in direction but the debate was super late. At this point I can't guess what they are needing to hear. I figure were looking at a O-51/M-46/I-3 split.
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