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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:40 AM
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Retired general claims Obama would not get security clearance
they are so over-the-top in their desperation it isn't even funny:




A retired Army general said today at a news conference sponsored by the Republican Party of Virginia that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama isn't qualified to be Commander-in-Chief of the United States because he couldn't get top secret clearance.

Jerry Curry said Obama's past association with former anti-war radical William Ayers would prevent him from getting security clearance.

Curry, who is an African-American, spoke at an ethnic outreach news conference at the Bell Tower in Capitol Square.

If Barack Obama had been commander-in-chief of the forces in the Revolutionary War instead of George Washington "we'd still be a British colony," Curry said.

Ayers was a founder of the Weather Underground, which set off explosives in the U.S. Capitol in 1971 and the Pentagon the next year to protest the Vietnam War. The organization warned people to evacuate the buildings, and no one was injured.

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-10-29-0191.html

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:41 AM
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1. TOTAL DESPERATION
They aren't even hiding the desperation any more. Just outright lying.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:58 AM
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20. Yes, the PRIMARY criterion for a Security Clearance is NOT who you have interacted with
but that "you can NOT be blackmailed."

In Civilian Security Clearance circles, homosexual men and women can easily glean a Security Clearance as long as they are OPEN.

SOME military lifers are IMNSHO "delusional" to the point of corrupting their once lauded character.

Shame on this retired General - he KNOWS better. :grr:
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:41 AM
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2. He's on the foreign relations committee... so he ALREADY HAS IT
God these people are idiots.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:54 AM
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13. Great point
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:56 AM
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17. You know the fabled oxymoron: military intelligence? Probably a
professional generals' son, too.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:33 AM
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29. I was going to say that, too.
Absolute idiots!

And the press doesn't check.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:10 AM
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31. +1
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:42 AM
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Stupid asshole.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:42 AM
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3. If GWB had been commander-in-chief of the forces in the Revolutionary War instead of Washington....
We'd be Spanish colonies by now, never mind the Brits. :eyes:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:42 AM
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4. Don Rumsfeld met with Saddam Hussein 25 years ago. How did he get one?
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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:51 AM
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10. Good point... and the evidence...
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:44 AM
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Obama ALREADY has security clearance!! He's on the foreign relations committee!!
what friggin' LIARS!!!!
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:44 AM
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5. Bwahahahaa!!! How many days after becoming the official
Democratic Nominee, did Obama start getting National Security Briefings? Wasn't it like, two????

lmfao

These people are ridiculous.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:45 AM
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6. George Washington only had experienced ONE battle before he was commander and he lost that one.
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:48 AM
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7. Mr. Curry is obviously a dumb-ass.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:48 AM
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8. Unless this tool outranked Powell, he needs to sit down and STFU.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:50 AM
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9. I don't normally respond to anything this way, but...
"Whatever." :eyes:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:52 AM
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11. yea, sure. they won't give the fucking PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES security clearance
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:22 AM
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25. yeap, the president's a clearance giver
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 09:25 AM by foo_bar
No such background checks are required for Barack Obama's current position as a U.S. Senator, or for his possible future position as President of the United States. Senator Obama already has access to a good deal of secret intelligence information as a member of Congress, and as President he would not only have access to more of it but would also have the power to determine who else within the government might see it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/security.asp

Anyway the Constitution still affords the right of electing presidents (via the electoral college) without passing a urine test or whatever, and it's pretty nutso to think that the civilian commander in chief has to pass a military or intelligence background test (by his own Cabinet), but if this guy's really a general I guess no one's immune to stupid chain letters (not that major-generals are prized for their critical thinking abilities per se, with deference to Gilbert&Sullivan).
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:54 AM
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12. That's a laugh. Former UK Labour Wilson Prime Minister and other Labour ministers
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 08:57 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
were kept under covert surveillance by right-wing rogue elements in our clandestine services! And, alas, so far, by European standards, Obama couldn't yet be called even a Social Democrat, though we're hopeful.

You may remember the "Spycatcher" case in Australia, where our civil-service chief, a man called Armstrong, confessed to the court that he'd been "economical with the truth". I've always thought the prosecutor, now a right-wing politician, should have ruefully commented that even Pontuius Pilate expressed an interest in truth, however cursory.... "and you, Mr Armstrong, have sought to obfuscate it... Need I say more?"
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:55 AM
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14. This retired General is full of BUNK.
:eyes:
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:55 AM
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15. Quite possibly the stupidist thing they've said yet...
Good comments, folks! You nailed it.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:32 AM
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28. This is one of the standard arguments they trot out
against EVERY Democratic candidate, along with calling them the "most liberal candidate ever"!
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:55 AM
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16. I Love the Smell of Cooked Meat in the Morning...smells like..."
VICTORY !!!!!!!!!!!
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:57 AM
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18. Take your meds, sir. n/t
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 08:58 AM
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19. Hey, General Wizard
Obama isn't running to be general of the armies. If this were the revolutionary war, we wouldn't have a president, which is what he's running for. so comparing him to Washington isn't supposed to work anyway. Especially dunmass for a general to not understand that comparison.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:01 AM
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21. Jerrry Curry ran for President?
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:02 AM
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22. Desperate people
We'll see after he becomes CIC if he doesn't get clearance. I would love the media to revisit some of these people after the fact and shove their comments in their faces.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:02 AM
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23. I wonder if McCain's association with G. Gordon Liddy has prevented him from getting a security
clearance.

These people are going nuts. Totally coming unglued.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:05 AM
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24. Fucking A, HE'S A FUCKING SENATOR YOU DIPSHIT.
GOD, how stupid ARE these people?

He. Is. A. Current. United. States. Fucking. Senator.

He serves on committees in the U.S. SENATE which REQUIRE certain types of CLEARANCE, YOU DOUCHEBAG REPUBLICANS.

How do they eat without choking? How do they cross streets without getting run over? That kind of stupid should hurt.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:16 AM
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33. Not only that, but on the Armed Services Committee (nt)
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:29 AM
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26. I've long been amazed
at the idiots that are used to determine whether someone should get clearance.

Almost 30 years ago, several college friends of mine and I were all working for the same Aerospace firm in Redondo Beach. One of our friends was up for a high-level security clearance. This government guy comes out to question us in Redondo Beach, in July, wearing a trenchcoat! The following is an approximation of the conversation one of my friends had with my friend (whom we will give the pseudonym Bernie).

Bernie: Hi, you must be the new Spook.
Spook (wearing the trenchcoat, indoors, in Southern California, in July): How could you tell? (Not joking)

Spook: So, your friend Carl, does he have any hobbies?
Bernie: Well, he likes Science Fiction.
Spook: Uh, huh. Well, would you say Carl has a firm basis in reality?
Bernie: Excuse me?
Spook: I mean, is he the type of guy who would want to take a ride on a rocket ship?
Bernie: Who wouldn't?
Spook: No, no, no. I mean, is he the kind of guy who would try to build that kinda stuff?
Bernie: THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING!


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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:15 AM
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32. ROFLMAO!!! That is an awesome conversation!
I love how the spook stymied himself with his own idiocy.
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Higher Standard Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:31 AM
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27. Neither would McCain, by those standards
See: Association with former domestic terrorist G. Gordon Liddy.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:55 AM
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30. Hell, Palin would qualify too...AIP
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