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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:02 AM
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National Review: Women who don't support Palin are just upset about their abortions
Now this is rich. Kevin Burke, a proponent of the invented "post abortion syndrome," writes that the criticism of Sarah Palin "may have a relationship to the collective grief, shame, and guilt from personal involvement in the abortion of an unborn child." Here I thought voters made decisions based on the issues that matter to them - little did I know that women across the country who don't support Palin are simply depressed about all of those abortions we've been having!

Burke gets even classier when he brings Palin's pregnant teen daughter into the mix:

If Bristol Palin had quietly aborted, Sarah Palin would have been spared the politically untimely focus on this very personal family issue. The problem would have quietly gone away. But Bristol, like countless post abortive women, would have paid a high price to protect her mother from the political heat that her pregnancy brings to the campaign. We know from our work with thousands of women who feel pressured to abort for various reasons that she would surely suffer many of the common post-abortion symptoms; depression, promiscuity, drug and alcohol abuse, sleep disorders, and relational problems. But she would have suffered in silence; no one would know her secret. No one would acknowledge that she has reason to grieve or have symptoms after abortion. Sarah Palin would have lost not only her precious grandchild...she likely would have lost her daughter Bristol to the silent ravages of post abortion suffering.
Wow, given that one in three American women will have an abortion in her lifetime - there must be millions of tired, addicted, slutty, depressed, single women running around voting Democrat!

Seriously, conservatives need to get their heads out of their asses - and out of our uteruses. (Sorry, not the best visual.)

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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:07 AM
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1. wow what a bunch of bullshit
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 02:09 AM by Connonym
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:08 AM
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2. I strongly suspect they're more upset about Palin being a fucking idiot.
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Dems4me Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:11 AM
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3. OMGosh- We got a ton of reasons for not supporting Palin- #1 she's a NUT!
:rofl: :rofl: And I have never even had an abortion, Mr Burke!
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:20 AM
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4. Hey, don't be so hard on dear, dear Mr. Burke.
Someone aborted HIS baby, years ago. And what a tragedy! How else was he going to prove she'd actually slept with him?
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:25 AM
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5. If I were a really mean person, I'd say...
...we're just upset Sarah's mom didn't get an abortion. But I'm nice, so I won't say that.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:36 AM
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6. It's a big decision.
That said, the woman has to deal with it.

No woman takes it lightly. He's insulting women.

He doesn't mention powerful men who make their women get an abortion because a pregnancy would be embarrassing.

Like a certain guy who was appointed president by the Supreme Court......

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lady raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 03:27 AM
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7. I am a woman. I have never had an abortion. Does this mean that I must love Sarah Palin?
Good Lord.

I have come to the conclusion that conservatism is a cognitive disorder. They simply aren't capable of using or understanding logic.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 03:51 AM
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8. "precious grandchild"
I can tell by the way she interacts with her own kids just how much Palin will cherish another prop - er, baby.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 03:52 AM
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9. I've never had one
so NR........try again. :yoiks:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 04:01 AM
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10. If a person has no soul nor a brain nor a heart then are they still human?
And if so, explain how.

This is what we said would happen when The Devil, err Reagan emptied the asylums, started exporting jobs, pumped drugs into the communities, ushered in the era of greed and anti-intellectualism, and encouraged Theocracy.

These people have always been with us but now they are front and center with every bit of encouragement to distance themselves from sanity and reality.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 04:05 AM
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11. Hillary's biggest demographic was women over 50. Nuff said.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 04:41 AM
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12. First off, a man has no business writing how women feel about anything.
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 04:42 AM by Waiting For Everyman
But aside from that, I'm a woman and a Christian, and never had an abortion, and I think Palin's scum. That's based on HER and not my political views. She has ZERO intergrity, and there's nothing at all positive about her. On top of that, she's an idiot.

None of that has a damn thing to do with her precious abortion. Truth is, it's nothing but wedge for her to drive, to con people into voting against their own interest.

Scum.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:05 AM
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13. I agree with you.
Why is it that men have the most to say about the morality of abortion? Its analogous to Catholic priests condemning contraception. In either case they have no real stake in the issue. It makes about as much sense as a rapist taking his victim to court demanding that she carry the child to term. Years ago I told my parish priest that when he got a real job, married and had the responsibility for a family he could shoot off his big mouth, until then just keep quiet because he didn't know what he is talking about. The same for men mouthing off about abortion. If guys could get pregnant they would be the first yelling about their rights.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:06 AM
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14. True of men as well. If we men felt ok about our abortions,
we would support Sarah Palin a lot more than we currently do.


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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:06 AM
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15. huh. My husband must have never told me about that abortion he had. n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:07 AM
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16. In fact, I would even favor DENYING abortions to men so they will support
Sarah Palin in larger percentages.


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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:20 AM
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17. Bill Buckley has to be up to 500 RPM...
... I doubt that even HE would buy in to this bullshit.

Maybe the reason why those women who don't support Palin is because they have a brain and use it, and can spot a empty phony when they see it?
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:22 AM
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18. I think they mixed two or three completely UNRELATED things. Let's not do the same thing.
I think that the abortion issue has been placed in two stark directions and the truth lies in between.

"common post-abortion symptoms; depression, promiscuity, drug and alcohol abuse, sleep disorders, and relational problems"

Rings true to me.

The guilt from abortion IS HORRIBLE. However, it doesn't mean that any one woman experiences them all at the same time: "tired, addicted, slutty, depressed, single women running around voting Democrat!"

I hope women in the Democratic party are not hampered by abortion guilt for the rest of our lives. I'd prefer to think that women across the political board come to terms with their decisions and choose to accept their decision by having better precautions in place in the future...


What that has to do with Palin or Palin's pregnant daughter is beyond me? I don't quite understand why a general dislike for a person's politics or their choices (unrelated Democratic thing...Clinton fatigue or some other horrific sounding malady) creates a diagnosis that needs to be rectified. At some point, we have to accept we agree to disagree on some preferences.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:31 AM
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19. Yeah, they WISH women suffered from "grief, shame and guilt" like that...
I've never known a woman who took the decision lightly ~ and also never known one who regretted it later, even if the memory can make them sad for a few moments.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:32 AM
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20. This is a special form of psychosis.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:50 AM
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21. Which one of my kids are they calling an abortion? I know they have their problems, but I wouldn't
go so far as calling them an abortion! ......Really is he trying to say that if Bristol was not pregnant or she aborted, abortion would not be an issue? Hey Burke, the right wing wackos made it an issue, like they ALWAYS do!
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always_saturday Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 06:53 AM
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22. What a crock. I was fiercely pro-choice and anti-guilt both before AND after I had an abortion.
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