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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:02 PM
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You'll Enjoy This: Arizona, and Notes from a Conference Call
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 04:32 PM by Mike 03

“I think two of his twelve homes are here.”
-- Don Bivens, Arizona Democratic Party Chairman


Hastily typed notes from a conference call with Arizona Democratic Party Chairman Don Bivens about the growing likelihood of “McCain losing in his own backyard.” Aired on P.O.T.U.S. XM channel 130.

(I typed this quickly, so I apologize for not getting more of it down.)

Bivens: “According to a Cronkite poll taken this weekend by (Bruce Merril), one of the most respected pollsters here in Arizona, John McCain is in danger of losing Arizona…”

Bivens then cites three other polls that show either a dead heat or Obama up by one point (Project New West) and a Carol Zimmerman poll showing Obama with a two point lead.

Bivens: “As Arizonans, we’ve known for a long time that John McCain is vulnerable here… We need to remember that even in Arizona McCain did not poll 50% with the Republican vote in the Republican primary. His number there here was 47%. And he’s doing no better than that statewide.”

Bivens discusses McCain’s feuds and in-fighting with other Republicans and his general unpopularity here in Arizona.

Blivens: “I would say that these polls really do reflect the fact that the people of Arizona really do know him best and are rejecting John McCain because they know we can’t afford another four years like the last eight. McCain likes to pretend that he hasn’t sided with George Bush 90% of the time, but we do know him here and that is what we’ve gotten… more of the same failed economic policies that don’t help Arizonan families more than they help anyone else. Indeed, from my perspective, Senator McCain has spent more time in Washington than Arizona…”

Bivens then discusses the “hot” issue of immigration and how after saying he would do something about it, McCain backed away from the entire issue entirely.

Bivens: “He’s ignored Arizona’s needs, but he’s had enough time to lobby companies however to put up cell phone towers in (some town name) which is north. So what you are seeing in Arizona is what you are seeing nationally: Very strong support for Senator Obama from Hispanic voters, young voters, Independents, and even Republicans. The Cronkite poll shows that Senator Obama has been closing the gap by attracting Independents and women, and I would suggest that is really part of the pattern that is happening in the inter-mountain west, in other states (such as) Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Montana, Arizona is simply part of that same rising tide.”

Bivens: “I think the McCain campaign has been very confident that Arizona was in the bag. This is his home state. I think two of his twelve homes are here. But we’ve gotten a long look at John McCain these last 26 years and people here are hungry for change…”

“The Democratic party here is in its strongest position ever. We’ve just reached one million registered Democratic voters for the first time in history… We have been out-raising the state Republican party by enormous margins…

“Independents in Arizona have been breaking for Democrats historically by a two to one margin. Last week we reached out to 75,000 Independents in a statewide voter contact effort. To date, in this election cycle, we’ve made over one million voter contacts… So, for the first time since 1966, our party is poised to send five or even six of our eight Congressional delegates as Democrats to Washington. We are in a position to take back the statehouse; we need four seats to control the house… We need three seats to control the Senate… and I’m THRILLED to be in a position to potentially deliver our electoral votes to Senator Obama.”

Q&A

Journalist from Arizona Republic asks if the reason for Obama’s outstanding showing in AZ is because he’s outspending McCain.

Bivens: “The answer to how much the Obama campaign has spent on advertising in Arizona is: Zero. To my knowledge the only people here who have seen ads would be somebody who happened to see some national cable station. So I don’t think there’s any basis for comparison about spending, because as far as I know it’s zero to zero in terms of campaign spending here…”

Bivens explains why he feels our chances are so good, because of the national campaign, and because Obama is “galvanizing at a measurably higher level of intensity the turnout.”

AP reporter asks if it is true that McCain is “as popular with Democrats as he is with Republicans” in Arizona.

Bivens: “The proof is in the numbers, and we have a dead heat, remembering that in Arizona there is a Republican registration edge of about 96,000 at this point and about 854,000 Independents … It is the Independents that are making the change here… The base here is turning out pretty well for both Republicans and Democrats… I’m looking at a landscape that shows us in a dead heat, with Independents making the difference… If we were looking at a senate race today, between McCain and our Governor, (Democrat) Janet Napolitano, which I see as (happening) in 2010, all the polling to date shows that Napolitano wins that by eleven points. So that ought to give you some sense of what McCain’s fortunes are.”

Bivens: “. Arizona’s growth has been so phenomenal… We are at a point now where roughly half of the registered voters in Arizona have either never seen McCain’s name on a ballot or saw it once…. So there are a lot of people here who literally don’t know him.”

Reporter for Rawstory.com asks if Obama campaign will shift funds to AZ for advertising or make appearances to take advantage of this polling gap. Also, is Obama’s success here due in part to Howard Dean’s 50 State Strategy?

Bivens says he has talked to the Obama campaign about taking additional steps to make AZ more competitive. “The situation is fluid… Those discussions are continuing… I’m hoping they can free up a little bit of that money to help us get over the top here. I think the 50 State Strategy has worked well everywhere…”

Reporter from Firedoglake.com: Can Obama come to AZ before the election next Tuesday? (Please, YES!)

Bivens: “Well, I’d like to say ‘Yes.’ But I don’t have any indication that that’s true. Like I said, I’ve had discussions with the Obama campaign about trying to do something to get us over the top in this dead heat. So, I’m asking. Let me put it that way. And I don’t know what’s going to happen.”

End.

I'd love to see the Obama campaign redirect some campaign funds and resources here, if they can safely spare it. I have a gut feeling that Obama is very, very close to turning this state blue. It might not be probable, but it is definitely within our grasp

{EDIT TO FIX MY MIS-SPELLING OF BIVENS' NAME--SORRY}

This is exciting. I haven't felt this good in, um, eight years.
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Sedona Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:15 PM
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1. kick
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 04:15 PM by LisaCea
:kick:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:20 PM
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33. thanks for the kick NT
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:20 PM
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2. Kick .. good insider news from the democrats in Arizona thanks
I posted these polls yesterday.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:05 PM
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11. Aw, thank you.
I love this stuff.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:22 PM
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3. A rally in Phoenix would be sweet!
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:34 PM
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5. Agreed!
I totally understand why Obama has not spent money here, but these four new polls might give him confidence that it would not be a waste of time.

Yes, it's more important he work on other states, but this would be the icing on the cake.

I'd love to see him come here!!!!!
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d.amber Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:30 PM
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4. kick..love to see my old home changing...
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:49 PM
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8. You said it!
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 04:49 PM by Mike 03
This has become a passion for me. The only people I know here in my small AZ town who like McCain are eighty years old or older.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:41 PM
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6. Even if AZ remains red, the mere fact that McJackass has to WORRY
about AZ speaks for itself. This is the kind of news that makes me feel quite confident that Tuesday will turn out well.

And someday, hopefully (maybe next Tuesday) I won't have to feel ashamed of living in Arizona.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:48 PM
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7. When will this be reported in the media?
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:19 PM
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13. I don't know
But I do know that realclearpolitics has done an amazing job of keeping track of these polls.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:41 PM
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19. Some of the electoral maps are showing Az pink.
and Chuck Todd was the first one I heard talk about it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:50 PM
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9. This is huge! Yay for Don Bivens~ Rec'd!
<snip from your article>

"Bivens: “He’s ignored Arizona’s needs, but he’s had enough time to lobby companies however to put up cell phone towers in (some town name) which is north. So what you are seeing in Arizona is what you are seeing nationally: Very strong support for Senator Obama from Hispanic voters, young voters, Independents, and even Republicans. The Cronkite poll shows that Senator Obama has been closing the gap by attracting Independents and women, and I would suggest that is really part of the pattern that is happening in the inter-mountain west, in other states (such as) Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Montana, Arizona is simply part of that same rising tide.”"
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:32 PM
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16. Thank you
Thanks to everyone who has rec'd this thread
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:56 PM
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10. Kickin'
Yeah baby.



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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:47 PM
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28. Thanks for the kick
Much appreciated.

I think this is big too.

Turn AZ blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:11 PM
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12. New Development
Apparently the McCain campaign is running anti-Obama robo calls in this, his own home state.

If that's true, that's it.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

He's just trying to save face at this point.

Now that is why it's more important than ever that we turn Arizona blue.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:19 PM
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14. I would love to see Obama turn this state blue just one time.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:28 PM
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15. Me too. Like you can't even believe.... I would give
one of my testicles to see that.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:35 PM
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17. My prayer: Please turn my state Blue, and I will never ever ask for another favor ever. LOL NT
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:38 PM
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18. Hey Mike - I just looked at your profile - and you're in Payson. Talk to ME!
Over the 4th of July, we went up to Pine.
I almost fell over when I saw the Obama office right in the middle of Payson.
Also, while going up to Pine there was a huge anti-Bush sign.

What's going on up there? I love it.
Everything I thought I knew about Payson is that it is Mormon country - and all this time I assumed it was very red up there.


I live in Chandler, btw.

All this is very exciting!
I've been phone banking down here and there is alot of excitement for Obama.
My daughter is in Tucson at U of A, and it is very blue down there.

I really think that Obama - or even Biden - should make a stop in Az. We are sooo close ;)
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:43 PM
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20. Hey Pirhana!!!!!!!!!!!!
My god, it's so nice to meet some one here close to me.

I actually have been a member here since 2003, but never ever met anyone living near to me.

This is awesome. Yes, it is true there is a large Mormon population here. To be honest, I see way more McCain signs up here, but on the other hand, our Obama headquarters ran out of signs.

I think probably they just felt AZ would never turn blue.

I am so happy that you wrote this message to me. I'm so happy in general.

Let's stay in touch, hopefully, if we can..
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:48 PM
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22. So how do we get a message to the Obama camp to get their butts down here?

I saw Obama in Tempe in 2006. He was here campaigning for Harry Mitchell.
At that time there was only about 1000 people there. My how things have changed.
He needs to get back down here - now!
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 05:47 PM
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21. If anyone can turn AZ blue it is Obama
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 05:48 PM by Mike 03
My little niece voted for him in the poll they had at school for the Weekly Reader.

And no one has said anything negative to her.

She wears her Obama pin on her backpack.

This is our opportunity to turn this Titanic around before it hits the glacier.

Everyone cares, and everyone is on board:

Old
Young
Hispanic
Jewish
Christian
Male
Female

This is it.

If we don't do it this time, I give up.
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maui9002 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:00 PM
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23. It would be great if Obama could make it to Arizona
but if he's got a chance in Arizona, the race will be over before the counting is done here. If the Obama campaign can come here, I'm not so interested in whether he can win Arizona, but whether he could swing some key federal and state legislative contests. In particular, when Don Bivens is referring to possibly getting six out of eight seats for the U.S. House, he's referring to Bob Lord beating John Shadegg, which would be a huge pickup for Arizona's Democrats, and for all of us, as I posted yesterday.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:03 PM
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24. Let us just keep hope alive
I totally believe this shift might happen.

Naturally, I can't be sure, but it seems possible.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:04 PM
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25. Keep Hoping and Keep Fighting
Hope Fight Hope Fight Hope Fight

And Believe
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:44 PM
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26. In 1992 Clinton made his last stop of the campaign in Fort Worth, TX.
My wife and I went to that rally. It was electric. At that stage, Clinton knew he was going to win, so, in a sense, he visited TX just to rub his victory in George H. W. Bush's face. Clinton did not win TX, but he did win the election. Obama campaigning in AZ right now would be like rubbing his victory in McCain's face. I think Obama is too classy to do that.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:43 PM
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35. Maybe Obama is too classy to do that, but
nevertheless, I would be very happy if he would try.

Either way, I would respect his decision.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:19 PM
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39. I hear ya. I want Obama to come to Georgia this week.
Hey, Mike? You posting during Obama's thirty-minute infomercial? Hit the submit button a few times?

It's all good. We're winning for a change!

:headbang:

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:43 PM
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36. Dupe please delete
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 07:44 PM by Mike 03
nevertheless, I would be very happy if he would try.

Either way, I would respect his decision.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:43 PM
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37. Dupe, sorry, please delete/ignore
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 07:46 PM by Mike 03
nevertheless, I would be very happy if he would try.

Either way, I would respect his decision.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:46 PM
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27. Wow, thanks for transcribing all that! nt
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:50 PM
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29. My pleasure!
If Obama can demonstrate this much stamina and energy, I feel like I can get off my butt and try to help any way I can.

I wish I had his energy.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:00 PM
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30. “I think two of his twelve homes are here.” Outstanding line. n/t
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:11 PM
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31. I know, I love that... That just sums it up perfectly
That is how much McClumsy has in common with Joe the Plumber.

McJackass can't even keep track of how many homes he owns.
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Michigan-Arizona Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:17 PM
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32. Take away the Diebold machine's & I believe it would be way bluer!
We're in Tucson & still to date have only seen 1 bumper sticker & zero yard sign's.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:32 PM
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34. Same here
The area where I live is not very progressive, sad to say.


But I know Phoenix and Tuscon are definitely within reach.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:52 PM
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38. AP reporter asks if it is true that McCain is “as popular with Democrats as he is with Republicans”
apparently, the answer is "yes, By which we mean not very popular with either"
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 10:55 PM
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40. Shameless self kick. Sorry. NT
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:28 PM
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41. It's totally possible that this state will go for Obama on Tuesday.
It will be close either way, but an Obama victory is not out of the question. I for one will be working my butt off to make it happen and I know many others who will do the same. If Obama came here, that would seal it, but I know that his schedule probably can't be changed that much at this late date.
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