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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:14 PM
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Obama 1961 birth announcement
Edited on Tue Oct-28-08 08:20 PM by BadgerKid
October 28, 2008

Summary
This Honolulu Advertiser announcment of Barack Obama's Aug 4, 1961 birth was published August 13, 1961 on page B-6. It is available only on microfilm in Hawaii libraries. It has never been posted online in spite of the extensive controversy over Obama's birth certificate. The announcement is 4th from the bottom of the left hand

http://www.wikileaks.org/leak/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf

Ref. http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Obama_1961_birth_announcement_from_Honolulu_Advertiser

EDIT: Attached image from said document.

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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:18 PM
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1. Never available online before, eh?
Clearly this was just planted by Obama when he... no, I can't even finish typing this, even sarcastically.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:19 PM
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5. Save your strength
We all thought the same thing.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:18 PM
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2. I wonder if they gave him some of that Carnation evaporated milk.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:18 PM
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3. DON'T YOU GET IT??!?!?!
Even then, his mother knew he would run for president, so they sent a forged announcement into the local papers! DUH!!!!!
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:19 PM
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7. It's all a Marxist plot!
Call the FBI!!!
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:38 PM
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28. I heard his mom made him attend Weather Underground meetings when he was 8 years old.
and i think there's a pic somewhere on the innartubes of him riding his bike to a meeting.
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:18 PM
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4. This should be broadcasted aggressivley. Its yet another corroboration of the BC issue.
I know, its outrageous we should have to prove this, but it's another nail in the coffin for these nuts.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:19 PM
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6. is the microfiche also a series of tubes?
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:25 PM
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17. No silly, its a really small fiche, like a minnow, or a guppy.
Duh!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:54 PM
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32. oh.... I see...
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:18 AM
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41. Do you?
Do you really?

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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:20 PM
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8. Well now we know why he went to Hawaii last week!
:hide:

j/k

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:20 PM
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9. heehee
That's so sweet. I think I'll keep that one. :)
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fourvahl Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:25 PM
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16. that arguement doesn't wash
Edited on Tue Oct-28-08 08:27 PM by fourvahl
with me. With today's technology you can find out just about anything. Anyone Republican saying.. "who is Barack Obama?" The answer should be "Get off your sorry ass and find out yourself. Do you forget how to use the internet or hire a PI? Durrrrr."

Idiots, they think we are still living in the last century. If anything I hope they learned the innuendos and tricky questions are not really that tricky.

*I hate it when I reply to the wrong post. Anyway to fix that? heh :duck:
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:21 PM
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10. Didn't know dad was also Barack H. Obama. Wouldn't that make it the second? (II)
Anyhoo, just asking. Maybe some folks don't do that.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:23 PM
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13. Yes. Our Barack is II
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:25 PM
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15. Thanks, cool!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:25 PM
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14. Yep, the man we're voting for is....
"Barack Hussein Obama II"

(as opposed to Jr. .... I always thought II was reserved for children named after people who were not their father, like Joe Kennedy II, but it doesn't really matter, Ann could have named her son Bilbo the Clown and we'd all be sitting here saying what an AWESOME name that was! lol)
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:29 PM
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21. Maybe father's "H" isn't for Hussein like Barack. . .
. . .now you'll have to find Barack's father's birth certificate. . .bwhahahaha!

Get Kenyan microfiche. . .quick. . .we have to verify whether Barack is I or II. . .might be nice to call him Jr.

:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:32 PM
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23. It is....
And his grandfather's name was Hussein Onyango Obama.

But when Barack says it, it sounds WAY cooler. lol
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:28 PM
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37. Yes, he's mentioned that. He often mentions that he got his name from his dad.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:22 PM
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11. Proof!!! That Obama's dad did this to cover up for Obama.
He's so busted!
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:22 PM
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See also the Star-Bulletin Announcement *More Links*
Edited on Tue Oct-28-08 08:28 PM by Tesibria
Available here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7639165&mesg_id=7639465

When addressing this issue need to
(a) include the "full column" from the Sunday Advertiser (to show that it's from the Health Bureau)
(b) include the links re: requirements for announcements.

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As an aside, both of these announcements were first found - and first published - by ANTI-Obama researchers looking into the COLB controversy.

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On Edit: See http://WhatsYourEvidence.com for a rather extensive refutation of the COLB/non-citizen claim.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:35 PM
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26. Thanks.
I came about the document from an entirely different route.
:hi:
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:47 PM
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30. No Prob - I just want to correct the "just found" to deal with the Hawaii trip thing
... Wikileaks is just "wrong" that this is the first time it's been posted. And people will/would USE that to say that Obama created it while in Hawaii last week.

I've been blogging on the issue since September at WhatsYourEvidence.com, and compiling the "real story" behind all the allegations. :)
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:22 PM
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12. Nice find, BadgerKid. . .
. . .research done the old-fashion way! I remember well the hours spent sitting in front of Microfiche and microfilm sources. . .

ahhh. . .the lingering smell of musty stacks and microfilm viewers!

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:29 PM
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20. Tell Lynn Samuels to shut the fuck up!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:26 PM
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18. So who's gonna be brave and post this in Freeperland?
They wont believe it either, but the reaction would be fun to watch.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:28 PM
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19. it's been done - multiple times ...
first, they did the "anybody can submit an announcement."

(Oops - actually, both papers reported FROM Health Dept. only.)

now, they just ignore it.

but it's been posted there multiple times.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:34 PM
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25. Follow-up: Freeper Links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2104800/posts

See Comment 49 and Comment 172 & responses to those posts

There's a bunch more, but this is the most recent example :).

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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:31 PM
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22. Honolulu Advertiser is obviously part of the liberal media elite.
And everyone knows the media is in the tank for Obama. Or maybe with all that campaign cash, the Obama camp built a time machine, and went back in time, and...and...

Oh, I give up. We are screwn!!!111!!

:crazy:
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:34 PM
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24. Damn that Obama! He used the pretext of his Gram's "illness" to plant this!
I knew it...Michael Savage was right!

He used last week's "visit" to his "ailing Grandma" to slip this bogus story into the newspaper morgue... he probably repelled in from the skylight in the early morning hours!!

Hopefully, Drudge (and FOX) will blow the lid off this scandal too!

:sarcasm:
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:37 PM
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27. It was FIRST found by an anti-Obama person - and posted in JUNE!
It ain't new - and they can't argue it is.

in fact, Factcheck.org cited to/posted it in AUGUST here: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html:

"In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961: (pic of birth announcement) ... The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:40 PM
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29. I'm sorry but that's bullshit.
We all know Michael J Fox traveled back in time in a Delorean and........
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:01 PM
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34. And you, sir, stole my idea
You used the Delorean to go back in time and post my idea exactly TWO POSTS before mine!!! Evuuuul.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 06:32 AM
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40. I couldn't afford the Delorean. I did use a Hyundai though.
:evilgrin:
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Fire_brand Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:53 PM
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31. sure...if you want to believe a left wing rag n/t
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:59 PM
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33. I don't believe it
I think the Obama campaign built a time machine, went back to just after Obama was born in Kenya, and put the notice in the Hawaii newspaper. Nevermind why they didn't use the time machine to make sure he was born in the US!!! It's because they's eeeeevul. Yaw.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:08 PM
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35. Boy are you dumb.
They didn't use the time machine to make sure he was born in the US because the Koran forbids it.

Wake Up America!



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paregdem Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:26 PM
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36. To put this to rest for the other side...
What we know we know and what they believe, they believe will disqualify Barack. Does this make it clear enough?


The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Separate sections handle territories that the United States has acquired over time, such as Puerto Rico (8 USC 1402), Alaska (8 USC 1404), Hawaii (8 USC 1405), the U.S. Virgin Islands (8 USC 1406), and Guam (8 USC 1407). Each of these sections confer citizenship on persons living in these territories as of a certain date, and usually confer natural-born status on persons born in those territories after that date. For example, for Puerto Rico, all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, are automatically conferred citizenship as of the date the law was signed by the President (June 27, 1952). Additionally, all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, are natural-born citizens of the United States. Note that because of when the law was passed, for some, the natural-born status was retroactive.

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was "declared" to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms "natural-born" or "citizen at birth" are missing from this section.

In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized that because McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): "a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person." Not eveyone agrees that this section includes McCain - but absent a court ruling either way, we must presume citizenship.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 10:13 PM
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38. OMG - this stuff is comic GOLD
These people are beyond delusional, and now that they're moving out of power, they're kind of funny. Almost 200 posts, and about 7 of them were sane (sane = "we don't need this, we should be focusing on how he's a communist")

I haven't laughed like this in a long time

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Want a real surprise?
Obama is found to be a foreign born citizen.
Hillary rides in to save the day, untouched by the press.

In the words of Heath Ledger, “Ta-da”.
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October surprises do not happen to Democrats - see examples below
.
.
1996 No surprise required - Bob Dole was probably a Democrat plant or a robot.
.
.
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You left off upChuck Schumer tipping the first banking domino in a long row Schumer was intimately familiar with, by fingering Indymac(?) as failing thus causing a run on that bank and bringing it’s early demise/closure. The democfrats have been planning this financial crisis timed to destroy the economy at just the right time for demcorats, politically.
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Seems the lad most probably doesnt have a valid BC...hmmm - why doesnt the wonderful Clinton machine of old get this done for us...would seem to be a small task for them?
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Berg is a clintonista.
The BIG reason is that Hillary!™ can't be perceived to have any of 0bama's blood spattered on her. She needs the 0bamaniac voters to sweep her triumphantly into office

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"Hillary rides in to save the day, untouched by the press."
To this VERY DAY, I have insisted that there is a reason Hillary's name was read into nomination at the convention, and it wasn't just symbolic.

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I've said it over and over.
I've been dismissed over and over.
I pray I am wrong, but I can't tell you how many FReepers have said, “I'd rather have Hillary than 0.”

Could anyone imagine us cheering Hillary a year ago?

They put in a Marxist, lowlife scum. He made Hillary look good. Now we would be relieved to have her.

There is a good chance we were duped. Howard Dean picks the candidate if BO is found ineligible. It's Hillary and we lose.

Like I said, I pray I'm wrong.
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If there is a valid Birth cerificate, it probably reads:

Barack Hussein mohammed 0bama

Show me a non-muslim who is named - mohammed.

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I knew they were deluded, but had no idea they were this batshit crazy (and how do they handle that stupid layout?)
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 10:21 PM
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39. Umm is that Revrend Wright that was born the same day right above Barack?
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