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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:28 PM
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Fox's Shepard Smith Forced To Offer Disclaimer After Joe The Plumber Interview
Fox's Shepard Smith Forced To Offer Disclaimer After Joe The Plumber Interview



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/foxs-shepard-smith-forced_n_138674.html

So, Joe The Plumber was out on the trail with John McCain today, apparently giving the thumbs up to someone in the crowd who felt that an Obama Presidency would bring about the end of Israel. From Raw Story:

The Ohio plumber, who has no license and is actually named Samuel Wurzelbacher, spoke at a McCain campaign event in Columbus Monday. A McCain supporter asked if "a vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel." JTP hardly batted an eye.


"I'll go ahead and agree with you on that," Wurzelbacher said.

It's all a part of Joe the Plumber's "Maybe I'm A Foreign Policy Expert, But Anyway, You Should Go Out And Get Your Own Opinions On Things Instead Of Listening To Mine, Even Though I'm Going To Keep Opining If You Give Me Half A Chance, And Anyway, I Don't Even Really Know What John McCain's Position Is On Anything Anyway, And Probably I Should Be Snaking A Sink Trap Or Something, Instead Of Dragging Myself All Over The Country Making Statements Which I Then Sort Of Disavow A Few Minutes Later Anyway, Who Knows?" Tour of 2008!

Honestly, it's like the 24 Hour News has finally reached the 25th Hour or something.

Anyway, five minutes with Joe The Plumber had Shepard Smith so frustrated that the Fox anchor felt compelled to issue a disclaimer, immediately following the segment, pushing back on any notion that Obama would mean the "death of Israel," saying: "I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said repeatedly and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words." Smith later added, "The rest of it -- man...some things -- it just gets frightening sometimes. We'll be right back." I haven't seen Shep this broken up about the state of the world since Katrina.

Meanwhile, let's remember that after a year of trying to figure out what their campaign is about, the McCain camp has basically pinned all their hopes to the avatar of Joe The Plumber, a random dude who says, "I know just enough about foreign policy to probably be dangerous...I have no idea where John McCain's position is...I honestly want people to go out and find their own reasons. I tell people not to listen to everyone else's opinion. I'm not going to have them start listening to mine." His words. Such as they are.

WATCH: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/foxs-shepard-smith-forced_n_138674.html

SMITH: Do you think John McCain agrees with you?

PLUMBER: No, that is just my personal opinion that I've come up with by looking into different facts and what I think. That is what my message has been about. I haven't been telling people to go out and vote. Listen, you don't want my opinion on foreign policy. I know just enough about foreign policy to probably be dangerous.

SMITH: That is what I was wondering. I wonder if you think it is dangerous at all for people to say that a vote for Barack Obama is the same as a vote for Israel, if you think that is dangerous for people to start believing. What happens if the polls are right and he becomes President of the United States and people start thinking that this means the death of Israel. Are you worried about what people might do if they actually believe something like that?

PLUMBER: That goes back to what I just got done saying. Some people believe it wholeheartedly. This gentleman I spoke to is Middle America. Therefore...it is very important to him -- important to me, but especially important to this gentleman. He is Middle America and he was able to get on there and make his point, and I agreed with him. I have no idea where John McCain's position is on that. John McCain is his own person, just like I am.

SMITH: Do you think a lot of that has to do with some hateful things that spread all over the internet? After all, Barack Obama has said repeatedly time after time that there is nothing more important that the United States friendship with Israel-- and the United States will back up Israel every moment of every day if and when he becomes President of the United States. He could not have been clearer about it in his positions in speeches, and I just wonder what it is that makes you think he is lying about that.

PLUMBER: (illegible) Actions...I have heard words. I hear words from politicians all the time, but actions the action that I see is offering to meet with certain enemies of the United States on no uncertain terms --

SMITH: Meeting with Ahmadinejad? That is what the campaign said. Let's put the statement on the screen. This is what the McCain campaign released after you said that at the campaign event today. So that is what they put out. "While he's clearly his own man, so far Joe has offered some penetrating and clear analysis that cuts to the core of many of the concerns that people have with Barack Obama's statements and policies. Whether it is Obama's willingness to sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or his plans to redistribute the paychecks of hardworking Americans, there is good reason to question the judgement that Obama would bring to the Oval Office." So that's what they put out, so I guess the fact that he has said it he would meet with Ahmadinejad is something that you have taken to believe would be the death of Israel?

PLUMBER: It definitely does not help the situation. I'm not trying to be dancing around this. I honestly want people to go out and find their own reasons. I tell people not to listen to everyone else's opinion. I'm not going to have them start listening to mine. Go out and get informed.

SMITH: Joe Wurzelbacher on the line with us after a GOP stop, a number of them today.

I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words. The rest of it -- man...some things--it just gets frightening sometimes. We'll be right back.


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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:30 PM
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1. Good for him.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:32 PM
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2. Good for you Sheppy.
G'on girlfriend!
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:53 PM
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17. OK, this is the second time today someone has hinted that Shep
is gay. Am I that far out of the loop and is my gaydar on the fritz?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:55 PM
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18. There's been talk that he's gay for quite a while. And good for him, by the way.
He pings on my gaydar. Too bad he's working for Fox.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:33 PM
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Shep likes DUers
;)
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:33 PM
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3. Why are they even giving him air time?
Who the fuck is he?

And

Who gives a fuck what he thinks?
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:49 PM
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16. I would like
to apologize for this goofus since he is from the Toledo area, like me.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:33 PM
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4. I never watch FAUX NOISE, so I do not know Shepherd Smith. Is he one of the
more rational newspeople on that channel, or was this just a one-time thing?
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:39 PM
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12. He's one of the more sane ones.
He's just a normal rightwinger rather than an out-to-lunch, batshit insane, neocon like the rest of the people on that channel
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:41 PM
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14. He FLIPPED OUT on Hannity during Katrina.
He was CLEARLY PISSED OFF at the fact that Katrina victims were NOT getting aid (listen for his "I dunno" response)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrhvkuzPMio

At the 6:30 mark Hannity tells him that he "wants to get some perspective" (immediately following Smith's detailed account of how people are being kept from food, water, electricity) and Smith replies "That IS perspective! That is all the perspective you need!"

:patriot:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:11 PM
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22. Thanks folks..for that info.
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:34 PM
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5. Now this idiot is offering us his opinions on foreign policy
Edited on Tue Oct-28-08 05:35 PM by Two Sheds
the McCain camp is dumb. Let JtP do his one thing and he can have some effect. Allow him to display full range idiocy and he won't be able to do the one thing he was "good" for.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:35 PM
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6. "I know just enough about foreign policy to probably be dangerous"
...which is probably more than McCain's running mate.

So now they have a fake plumber hitting the campaign trail who's giving the thumbs-up to wingnut conspiracy theories on behalf of the McCain campaign?

Wow...
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:36 PM
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7. "Go out and get informed'???? Okay Joe.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:36 PM
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8. Really though
Shepard smith is a tool. I can barely stand to turn him on.

Ok, I didn't mean to turn him on, I meant to turn on FOX news.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:36 PM
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9. I don't understand how Shepard Smith can stay on that shit network
He's obviously not "one of them". And I don't mean because he's gay, but because his coverage of Katrina proved that - unlike most of his FAUX colleagues, he's an actual human being who wasn't afraid to say, even on that pig network, that what he was seeing in New Orleans was just WRONG.

What profit hath a man if he gain the whole world but lose his soul, Shep?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:02 PM
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19. Shep is not that great a guy
He once struck a reporter from another network with his car, deliberately, to claim a parking space. While he might have occaisonal moments of relative humanity, he's a jerk of the first water.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:37 PM
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10. OMG!! When even Fox is shaking its head, well,
:rofl:


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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:39 PM
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11. Freepers, take a look at your new VP.
He's "just like you."
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:40 PM
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13. He interviews a well-known doofus & is shocked just shocked he turns out to be a doofus.
Hmmm.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:46 PM
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15. So what's the difference between Joe the Plumber and a turd?
Will McCain name Joe the Plumber as his White House Chief of Staff? Or will he hold a Cabinet position?
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:04 PM
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20. This is crazy they should find some experts to interview not plumbers.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:08 PM
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21. My God...Who Is Joe the Plumber..
A policy advisor? Spokesperson? Ashley Dodd's boyfriend?
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lolamio Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:12 PM
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23. Joe the Plumber on Israel? Give me a break.Kudos to Shepard Smith for not suffering a fool gladly.



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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:13 PM
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24. AUDITIONING for a Fox show soon? Joe the Plumber Expounds? //nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:15 PM
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25. Did the McCain campaign seriously say this:
"...Joe has offered some penetrating and clear analysis that cuts to the core of many of the concerns that people have with Barack Obama's statements and policies."

was it in a press release or what? Is this a talking point for all thier surrogates?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:44 PM
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28. That's the most stunning bit of info in this post! WTF nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:30 PM
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26. Samuel Wurzelbacher is Sam "the Freeper"
Perhaps he will get his own radio show to spew his nonsense.
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:31 PM
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27. Joe the Plumber is too crazy even for Fox News.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:34 PM
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29. video here - this is truly stunning
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