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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:50 PM
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What constitutes a landslide?
I'm am NOT counting my chickens before they hatch, but what is the criteria for a winning margin being declared a landslide, in election terms?

It is not time to rest until after the polls close Nov. 4th.



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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:54 PM
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1. According to Bush a "Mandate" is 1.7%.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:55 PM
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2. A Democrat winning by 1 vote. nt
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:04 PM
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7. If the Dems won by 1 vote,
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 07:04 PM by Tiggeroshii
The repukes will go to every effort-legally and nefariously, not to let that vote be counted. Nor the one that ties it.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:56 PM
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3. three hundred electoral votes... nt
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:58 PM
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4. No precise scientific answer, but....
There are two categories of "landslide", one for the popular vote margin and the other for the electoral vote. I have heard it mentioned that a 10% popular vote margin or higher constitutes a landslide. So Reagan's 1980 10-point victory over Carter would have been a "very small L" landslide. For an electoral landslide, a wider margin is necesary, since it's a state-by-state winner-take-all process, and many states are won by narrow margins. I'm not sure, and others will disagree, but I would place the threshold for an electoral landslide at 60%.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:03 PM
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6. So generally speaking, 10% a margin would be the threshold.
That's about what I was thinking, without really knowing.

Thanks.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:13 PM
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10. That would be 323 EV.
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 07:14 PM by FlyingSquirrel
I'd say winning 100 EV more than necessary (370) would be a true "Landslide", with maybe a little-"l" landslide being 320-369. 300 would be a "comfortable victory".
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:59 PM
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5. with the size of the electorate today....
more than five percentage points is getting into landslide territory.
EC? I say a hundred electoral votes.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:06 PM
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8. I'd say if he breaks 300 ... nice round number.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:07 PM
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9. 375 EVs or more. n/t
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:50 PM
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13. 360 would be more than double McCain's 178.
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 07:51 PM by FlyingSquirrel
370 would be 100 more than necessary. Either one would qualify, I think.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:21 PM
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11. Well, let me explain, with the help of the Internet.
According to Wikipedia, a landslide is

A landslide is a geological phenomenon which includes a wide range of ground movement, such as rock falls, deep failure of slopes and shallow debris flows, which can occur in offshore, coastal and onshore environments.


There are also five main causes of a landslide:

-Geological causes, where the composition of the sliding mass plays a significant role.
-Morphological causes, where the geographical nature of the sliding area plays a significant role.
-Physical causes, where sudden natural events ranging from excessive rainfall to volcanic eruption trigger a landslide.
-Human causes, where human activity in an area triggers a slide.
-Electoral causes, where being a terrible candidate for an unpopular incumbent political party results in huge numbers of voters voting against your failed ideology in such numbers that your opponent wins by a wide margin.

A 'wide margin' is of course defined based on party affiliation. If the winner is a Democrat, the margin must be more than 4-1 at which point the winning candidate can declare a mandate. If the winner is a Republican, a mandate can be claimed if the margin is 537 votes in a state of 16 million, one SCOTUS vote, or over 500,000 fewer popular votes nationally.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:49 PM
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12. lol... Actually,
after thinking about it a bit further, a landslide could clearly be claimed if Obama won more than twice the EV's of McCain. So that'd be 359 EV to 179 EV. I'll go with 360 as a nice round number though.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 08:28 PM
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14. Only a landslide if he gets 430 or more. Any less than that and it's just a 'close victory.'
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:58 PM
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15. Yea, I don't expect the MSM to call it a landslide. I'll settle for
'convincing win' and 'clear mandate'.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:59 PM
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16. when your a black guy with an Islamic sounding name? == 271
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:01 PM
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17. A pictorial of a Landslide for your education
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:11 PM
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18. 5 percent or higher
That would be my estimate. Clinton in '92 won by 5.5% and the media declared it a landslide, which caused Republicans to howl.

If Obama wins by 5% or higher he's almost assured to drag the major electoral prize states along with him, like Florida, Ohio and Virginia. A sweep like that would have every major network and newspaper declaring it a landslide.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:16 PM
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19. McCain giving his concession speech. That's all I ask. nt
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