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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:55 AM
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McCain has major memory lapse on MTP.
I posted this in another thread, but I think it deserves to stand on its own.

Brokaw shows clip of rushbo screaming that Powell's endorsement is 'TOTALLY RACIAL! TOTALLY RACIAL!'
Asks McGoaway if he believes that.
He doesn't answer the question, at all, but launches into the list of 5 former U.S.A.G.s who endorse him.
Except now, when the chips are down, he can only name 4.
'Um..ah..' (eyeroll) Actually starts the list over.
Still can name only 4.
Brokaw moves on to something else. Never gets back to the original question about racism.
THEN, in the middle of something else, McGrumble suddenly remembers that other, elusive name.
"GEORGE SHULTZ! IT'S GEORGE SHULTZ! THAT'S THE OTHER GUY!"
And he beams.
He is SO proud. He did remember.
See? He's not past it quite yet.

It was really sad to watch.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:58 AM
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1. I am there now almost everyday
I'll be 63 Monday. Gramps is a bit older. This isn't surprising but it is disturbing for all the obvious reasons not the least of which is his back up plan, Sarah Palin!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:00 AM
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2. I'm 67 and there too.
And I have no desire to be president of the United States.
;-)
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:32 AM
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11. I am 63
and I don't want no damn 3 A.M phone call. I am relatively healthy but nothing physically functions at 3 A.M except maybe my bladder.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:14 AM
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18. lol!
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:15 PM
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23. At 3 AM my bladder is fine but
the rest of the day, well!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:17 AM
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4. He is always going on and on about
Reagan's legacy. Halfway through Reagan's terms he was showing signs of Alzheimers. I do not ridicule that because my mother died with it. But the president of the U.S. should be very carefully chosen. I am 76 and can tell my memory lapses are more frequent today than yesterday. No one running for president should be elevated to hero status. We can adore them but have to remember we must live with them. McCain just doesn't have what it takes to become president.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:26 AM
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7. Couldn't agree more
Is it time to put an upper age limit on the Presidency? How about a competency test?

We often retest older drivers for their competence to operate a motor vehicle, why not for a driver of the country?

Before I get slammed for being an "ageist" remember I'm old, I'm allowed! Besides you can just chalk it up to my feeble mindedness!
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:52 AM
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22. Anyone catch the part where he called the generals that support him "retired flags"? Hilarious.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:16 PM
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24. Are you sure he said "flags"?
This is the Republican party after all.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:05 AM
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3. memory lapse
I think that it is perfectly legitimate to bring up this interview with regard to the question asked and McCain's failure to respond to it.

With regard to the memory lapse, however, it kind of strikes me as a cheap shot. I've had lots of memory lapses that were worse than that, and my wife keep reassuring me that I don't have Alzheimer's just yet.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:26 AM
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8. Here's why I don't think it was a cheap shot.
Our brains/minds are always ahead of out mouths.
He had to know half way through a statement that he has made MANY times before that he couldn't remember every name.
(BTW the list of 5 former A.G.s is his standard answer to questions about the Powell endorsement.)

He could have just left it at '5 former attorneys general'. That would have worked OK.
That's what I would have done.

He could have named the 4 he was able to and moved on to the next part of his answer. Most wouldn't have noticed he didn't name all 5.

But, like a kid trying to recite his ABCs, he starts in on the list all over again. And still can't do it.
Bad.

But the worst was two minutes later, in the middle of another subject, he suddenly comes up with the forgotten name, spits it out and just beams at how great he did.

That's not the guy I want with his finger on the button.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:18 PM
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25. I thought it was 5 former Secretaries of State
George Schulz was never AG.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:46 PM
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29. You're right. Sec. State, not A.G.
Woops.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:27 AM
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9. What struck me is this.
He's not got the mettle or moxy or ability to think on his feet enough to get past his inability to find that 5th name. He actually started trying to list the names again...sputtered...got angry with himself... I firmly believe that someone his age could be a fine president. But his inability to talk his way out of that situation with any kind of elegance is troubling to me. A president needs to be able to think on his feet.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:21 AM
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5. The sound of dozens of GOP strategists printing out new resumes that start with
the words "Bi-Partisan Campaign Support".

Between Mitt and Thompson and Rudy, this party is just plain pathetic.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:21 AM
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6. What really stumps me is this....
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 10:22 AM by RichGirl
Older people I know, my parents did, the older people I work with...that there is memory loss and difficulty to think clear and understand things. So, WHY, WHY IN GOD'S NAME, would they vote for someone that they KNOW is experiencing this???? Do these people's egos surpass their desire to have a better world for their children and grand children. Someone who knows an older person voting for McCain because they are being loyal to their age group, please explain it to me!
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:31 AM
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10. I see two reasons
though I'm sure there are others.

Denial, the same reason aging men do comb overs and hair transplants.

Holding onto the past ideas and ideologies. They can't let go and admit that their past ideas may have been wrong so they stubbornly cling to them against all reason.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:36 AM
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21. I am in my 50's and sometimes have brain freezes
but I think older folks with an "R" after their names will vote for anything that way because they have been republicans for so many years they don't care and know that the issues they want will be voted on the way they want. They know so much of the presidency is not done by the president but his folks working for him, so all they need is the "R".

Look at how stupid Bush was but he got all sorts of crazy shit passed.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:33 AM
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12. Republican Secretaries of State endorse a Republican candidate
Are we supposed to be impressed? The reason Colin Powell's endorsement was such a big deal is because it is a "man bites dog" story. It would have been a big deal even if he endorsed neither candidate, because it is a clear vote of no-confidence towards McCain.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:34 AM
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13. I'd like to watch that video and be sad, myself.
I don't have enough sadness. The kind of sadness that makes me grin evilly and count the seconds until November 5. Please, please, someone make me sad and put that video up!
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:37 AM
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14. it's becomming apparent
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 10:37 AM by Magic Rat
that McCain's first term would mirror Reagan's second term in a lot of ways.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:39 AM
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15. Evidently McLiar's been cutting back on his supplements
Campaign reps for Sen. John McCain obtained an herbal supplement touted to enhance memory and keep energy levels up for the candidate before his joust with Sen. Barack Obama, a source tells us. Four-time Super Bowl champ Bill Romanowski, whose company Nutrition53 produces the capsule Neuro1, said: "I won't confirm or deny that Sen. McCain is using our product, but it's phenomenal for any person with stress and an overwhelming travel schedule."
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:23 PM
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27. NO FRIGGIN WAY
He is getting pills from a crazy man? Look up Romanowski, he was a pill popping unbalanced asshole! And I was a fan of his team.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:02 AM
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16. Just Like Christopher Hitchens Said........

....McCain is noticeably older than he was, compared to just this past January. His physical and mental slippage is genuinely alarming.....
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:12 PM
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28. Campaigning is stressful, mentally and physically.
Look at how much more gray hair Obama has than he did just a few months ago.

Actually being President is even more so, like times ten. Look at the 'before' and 'after' pictures of any President. It ages you in a shocking way.

Obama is sharp and healthy and fit and he can take it. McCain, well, :scared:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:13 AM
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17. I wish Brokaw had asked McCain whether theSec of States that endorsed him
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 11:13 AM by onenote
did so because he (and they) are white and male?

(I'm assuming that the five are: Shultz, Haig, Kissinger, Eagleburger,and Baker).
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:30 AM
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19. The fight for mclame's soul- interesting, old line cons back away
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Current-Affairs/Security-Watch/Detail/?ots591=4888CAA0-B3DB-1461-98B9-E20E7B9C13D4&lng=en&id=92492

>>Pragmatist Lawrence Eagleburger, a secretary of state under the first president Bush, told The New York Times in April: "It may be too strong a term to say a fight is going on over John McCain's soul. But if it's not a fight, I am convinced there is at least going to be an attempt. I can't prove it, but I'm worried that it's taking place."<<

That's support from Larry the E?

.........

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/us/politics/10mccain.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

>>Mr. McCain might be coming under increased influence from a competing camp, the neoconservatives, whose thinking dominated President Bush’s first term and played a pivotal role in building the case for war.
...Mr. Eagleburger said, “there is no question that a lot of my far right friends have now decided that since you can’t beat him, let’s persuade him to slide over as best we can on these critical issues.” <<
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:30 AM
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20. The fight for mclame's soul- interesting, old line cons back away
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Current-Affairs/Security-Watch/Detail/?ots591=4888CAA0-B3DB-1461-98B9-E20E7B9C13D4&lng=en&id=92492

>>Pragmatist Lawrence Eagleburger, a secretary of state under the first president Bush, told The New York Times in April: "It may be too strong a term to say a fight is going on over John McCain's soul. But if it's not a fight, I am convinced there is at least going to be an attempt. I can't prove it, but I'm worried that it's taking place."<<

That's support from Larry the E?

.........

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/us/politics/10mccain.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

>>Mr. McCain might be coming under increased influence from a competing camp, the neoconservatives, whose thinking dominated President Bush’s first term and played a pivotal role in building the case for war.
...Mr. Eagleburger said, “there is no question that a lot of my far right friends have now decided that since you can’t beat him, let’s persuade him to slide over as best we can on these critical issues.” <<
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:22 PM
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26. Chronic Ischemic Cerebrovascular Damage affecting the deep white matter tracts. n/t
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