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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 05:27 PM
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"I Call Bullshit on David Frum"
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 05:28 PM by ProSense
Brad DeLong:

October 25, 2008

I Call Bullshit on David Frum

If David Frum really believed that one-party government was a danger, he would have been supporting Bill Clinton in 1996, Al Gore in 2000, and Democratic senators and representatives in 2002, 2004, and 2006. He wasn't. And now he thinks that it's time once again for Republicans to campaign by once again saying things they don't believe.

Can we please have an opposition to the Democrats that says things that they do believe, rather than things that they don't? Is that too much to ask?

David Frum writes:

Sorry, Senator. Let's Salvage What We Can: John McCain is losing in a way that threatens to take the entire Republican Party down with him. A year ago, the Arizona senator's team made a crucial strategic decision. McCain would run on his (impressive) personal biography. On policy, he'd hew mostly to conservative orthodoxy.... (I)n August, McCain tried a bold new gambit: He would reach out to independents and women with an exciting and unexpected vice presidential choice. That didn't work out so well either. Gov. Sarah Palin... did, however, ignite the Republican base.... And so, in this last month, the McCain campaign has Palinized itself to make the most of its last asset. To fire up the Republican base, the McCain team has hit at Barack Obama as an alien, a radical and a socialist. Sure enough, the base has responded.... But... (the) strategy that has belatedly mobilized the Republican core... has alienated and offended the great national middle.... You have to go back to the Watergate era to see numbers quite so horrible for the GOP.

McCain's awful campaign is having awful consequences down the ballot. I spoke a little while ago to a senior Republican House member. "There is not a safe Republican seat in the country," he warned. "I don't mean that we're going to lose all of them. But we could lose any of them." In the Senate, things look, if possible, even worse. The themes and messages that are galvanizing the crowds for Palin are bleeding Sens. John Sununu in New Hampshire, Gordon Smith in Oregon, Norm Coleman in Minnesota and Susan Collins in Maine... the certain loss of John Warner's Senate seat in Virginia, the probable loss of Elizabeth Dole's in North Carolina, an unexpectedly tough fight for Saxby Chambliss's in Georgia -- and an apparent GOP surrender in Colorado....

A beaten party needs a base from which to recover.... (T)he Senate will have to play the same role after this defeat. That's especially true because of two unique dangers.... There's a fierce new anger among many liberal Democrats, a more militant style... the culture of the left-wing blogosphere.... Every available dollar that can be shifted to a senatorial campaign must be shifted to a senatorial campaign.... (I)t is not far-fetched to hope that we can hold 45 or 46 of our current 49 Senate seats.... We need a message change that... warns of the dangers of one-party... government.... It's the only argument we have left. And, as the old Washington saying goes, it has the additional merit of being true.



Frum, you're an ass, but thanks for letting us know how desperate and distraught you are that McCain-Palin sucks.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 05:31 PM
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1. They are terrified because they assume that the Dems will act the way THEY did when they had control
of everything. They are projecting their own evil, self-serving agenda onto the Democrats.
GOOD!! Let them all pee their pants !!!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 05:43 PM
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2. They're primarily terrified because they're losing. n/t
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 05:49 PM
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3. They Bet The Pot On Being A White, Southern Party
And they act shocked when they see the results. Tough shits.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 06:28 PM
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4. One Party Government? You mean, like the Permanent Republican Majority? You mean like Republicans
controlling the Oval Office, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court? You mean like that?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 07:02 PM
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6. Frum is upset because
partisan hacks and criminals will no longer be running the WH, House and Senate. He's distraught because the wingnuts will not get another shot at the SCOTUS.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 07:00 PM
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5. Fuzzy math
Saturday, October 25, 2008

Fuzzy math

Sandy Levinson

In a very interesting column that presumes an Obama victory and calls on Republicans to invest all of their energy (and dollars) in saving senators, David Frum writes,

2. We need a message change that frankly acknowledges that the Democrats are probably going to win the White House -- and that warns of the dangers of one-party, left-wing government. There's a lot of poll evidence that voters prefer divided government. By some estimates, perhaps as many as 8 percent of voters consciously cast strategic votes in favor of division. These are the voters we need to be talking to now.

His argument that Repuablicans should be talking to such voters strikes me as sensible. What is nonsensical, though, is the assertion that "voters prefer divided government." If only eight percent "consciously cast stratetic votes in favor of division," that entails, at least by the old traditional math that I learned many decades ago, that 92% of the voters don't vote strategically to preserve divided government--some of them may vote for an opposite party senator because he/she is good at getting earmarks, but that's quite different from Frum's point. This exemplifies not only a propensity for fuzzy math (do Republicans know any other kind?), but the ability of "median voters," whether in the electorate or the United States Supreme Court, to create governmental incoherence and gridlock. Now maybe it is true that most voters prefer divided government to one controlled by the opposition. But that is a distinctly second-best preference, and if that is his argument, he should note that the overwhelming number of voters in fact have a first preference for unified government (controlled by their own party).


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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 07:07 PM
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7. Calling bullshit on David Frum is redundant. n/t
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