Stephen Baldwin: "Here's what's creepy about Obama: There's something else going on with this dude."

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Stephen Baldwin: 'McCain can bring change'
Sarah Palin's 'favorite Baldwin' discusses his faith, support for John McCain

By Sarika Dani
TODAY staff
updated 2:42 p.m. PT, Fri., Oct. 24, 2008

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27362751/



Actor, author, and born-again Christian Stephen Baldwin — who Sarah Palin last week referred to as her "favorite Baldwin brother" on "Saturday Night Live" — talks to TODAYshow.com about his faith and support for Republican presidential candidate John McCain. Baldwin's latest project is a work of fiction called "The Death and Life of Gabriel Phillips."

Q: Why do you think McCain is the best choice for our next president?

A: I think that right now everybody's freakin' out, and for a good reason. The next president of the United States has to look at multiple issues simultaneously. In the prioritization of that, of course it's our economy. We need someone who is prepared and experienced enough to deal with all that's on our plate now.

Q: Is Barack Obama the wrong choice for our country?

A: No, Barack is not the wrong choice. I just don’t think he's the right choice. Barack Obama is clearly a smart guy, talented. I think that guys like Obama, like Clinton, have had their eyes on this goal for a long time … becoming President of the United States. I don't believe personally that Barack Obama cares for America as authentically as John McCain.

Q: Why?

A: He's a politician.

Q: How is McCain more for America than Obama?

A: He served it 24 years longer. He is somebody who has demonstrated within his own party that he would rather do what's right for the people who elected him than what is right for his party. People want change. How is Barack going to do it? I think McCain can bring change.

Q: Do you support McCain/Palin because you are a Republican?

A: I'm a registered Independent. But my brother says it’s obvious that I'm a Republican sympathizer. Once I get in the voting booth it doesn’t matter. I just think in the now.

Q: The New York Daily News last week quoted you calling Barack Obama a "cultural terrorist." Can you explain your statement?

A: If you look up the definition of the words, a terrorist is someone who incites violence. The Bible says that "God knew us and formed us in our mother's wombs." Simply the fact that he's pro-abortion — that to me is a form of terrorism based on the dictionary definition.

Here's what's creepy about Obama: There's something else going on with this dude. That’s part of the mystery of Barack Obama. That is probably what will cause him to lose this election. As much as people love the phenomenal aspect of his message, there's a lot of unanswered issues about this dude. Creepy stuff. His birth certificate … you could call it all hokesy stuff.

John McCain doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of questions in his past as Barack Obama. Not even close. He's got Keating Five. He doesn't have things about his record and history and being that are in question. He's a war hero. He's literally one the last of a dying breed of heroes.

[LittleBlue]

1. Looks like a psycho

Sorry, he just does look like a Freeper/Ashley Todd type.

[Kookaburra]

2. Poor Steven -- the lesser-talented Baldwin

Oh well, he had to find a way to make himself as famous as his older brother...

[Dennis Donovan]

35. The uglier and more stupid Baldwin...

They can have him.:thumbsdown:

[Kookaburra]

133. He does have a rather simian appearance

[blue_onyx]

3. He's like the male Elizabeth Hasselbeck

Talentless and dumb.

[BlooInBloo]

132. +1

[kikiek]

4. Personally I don't even like that you quoted him. His comments are vile and don't deserve repeating.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

18. It's part of the discussion and I respect your opinion

Yes, his comments are vile. I'm of the opinion that the more you understand about your opponent, the better your chances of winning. DU is a discussion forum, and this is part of the discussion, and that's why I posted it.

:patriot:

[mitchum]

5. He waited way too long before giving up the blow...those synapses will never repair

[wvbygod]

Thankfully no Democrats ever did blow, lines, bumps etc

We can be ever so thankful our people have kept their noses clean and would never inhale.

Damn we are a wonderful and clean bunch. Swoon....

[mitchum]

60. Read my post again, bucko

I said he waited too long before giving it up.
By his own admission, he was a big time blow hound
He has just replaced one addiction with another

[wvbygod]

63. Opiate for the masses

Everyone has their own. The only reason it's illegal is because we can't fight a war while
feeling peaceful. That, and if overdone, it leads to poor work ethic and if nobody works we
will all starve.

[anneboleyn]

111. I agree with you, Mitchum. Good point.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

64. He didn't accuse you people of being cokeheads, just Stephen Baldwin. Get a grip. -nt

[mitchum]

67. Thanks

:)

[wvbygod]

94. Yes, but even Steven deserves assistance for over cokeing himself

While there are plentiful reasons for metting out admonishment for political differences,
the compassionate alternative and most desired resolve is a healthy dose of understanding
that there is hope if you do dope.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

106. I'm sure you'd be just as forgiving were it, say, Brad Pitt speaking badly of McCain.

:eyes:

[mitchum]

117. But prolonged coke abuse can cause IRREPARABLE damage...

I'm actually giving Baldwin an out; I'm not claiming that he was born stupid

[Binka]

70. Mitch I Love You So Much I Would Do Your Laundry And Cook You A Pot Pie

LOL! :loveya:

[mitchum]

79. Oh, you wouldn't love me long if you had to do my laundry

:)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

104. Oh mitchum you're so fine you're so fine you blow my mind hey mitchum!

Hey mitchum!

[terrya]

6. Clearly, he's not the smartest Baldwin brother.

That's for goddamned sure.

[GobamaX]

103. Heard that.

I saw him on larry king a while ago and I thought, he's just on that show because he's a conservative 'Baldwin'.

I guess he's only famous because he rode on the coattails of his older and more successful and intelligent brother... Alec Baldwin.

[Youphemism]

7. He says pro-abortion folks are terrorists and then calls *Obama* creepy? Geez. /nt

[renate]

30. he has that FACE and calls someone else creepy? n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

36. oh, SNAP! *high five*

[Ilsa]

65. And reproductive clinic bombers are angels, per Stupid Baldwin. nt

[No Elephants]

86. No one I ever knew is pro-abortion, but many are pro-choice.

[cui bono]

113. Heh, just saw your comment after I already post mine saying the same thing.

:thumbsup:

[cui bono]

109. And I'm sure the reality is that no one is really PRO-abortion, just pro-CHOICE.

No one is out there rallying for women to go get abortions ffs. The terms they've adopted and that have made it into the mainstream are disgusting.

[knowledgeispwr]

8. Lord, he's an idiot.

"Here's what's creepy about Obama: There's something else going on with this dude. That’s part of the mystery of Barack Obama. That is probably what will cause him to lose this election. As much as people love the phenomenal aspect of his message, there's a lot of unanswered issues about this dude. Creepy stuff. His birth certificate … you could call it all hokesy stuff."

He's the less successful Baldwin for a reason.

[Smuckies]

9. He's weird.

[ecstatic]

10. Are most McShame supporters drunks, drug addicts and liars? nt

[spooky3]

23. and self-anointed psychologists practicing without a license, apparently.

[WeDidIt]

11. Stephen Baldwin is a purely evil human being

Bringing up the birth certificate crap demonstrates he's a fucking racist and an evil man.

Tehre is only ONE reason for the questioning of the birth certificate, RACISM.

[wvbygod]

58. Could you please explain your reasoning? I have heard this before.

Please, exactly how is questioning ones birth credentials RACISM? I had to go though many
hoops to get mine when I moved back home from Vermont and never considered it racism.

In fact, the county clerk was extra nice since she noticed I had recently been railroaded
and illegally detained by my fellow Dems (yes, I still vote Dem but they got booted) in my county.

So, WTF is the logic behind asking for a BC being RACISM???

[WeDidIt]

116. He has presented his birth certificate on numerous occasions

The Hawaii Department of Health has verified he was born in Hawaii and the birth certificate he has presented on three seperate occasions is real.

Yet, this is still called into question.

The ONLY reason that he has been placed under this scrutiny is because his father was Kenyan. There is no other reason.

[emilyg]

81. Shout racism much?

[Honeycombe8]

12. McCain IS a war hero, right. But that doesn't qualify anyone to be President.

Jessica whatsername was a POW in Iraq, wasn't she? What's she doing these days? Maybe she can come be our President.

McCain is a political animal, just as Obama is. Maybe more so. He has "served" the country (make that...has "earned his living and gotten his healthcare from" the country) for decades, true. And that is precisely what makes him MORE of a politican than Obama.

What does it say about a politician with three decades of experience if he can't win his party's nomination once or twice, and then can't win the Presidency? It's fair to say that he doesn't really have the executive skills needed to run a campaign. Or a country.

So shut the hell up, Baldwin.

[olegramps]

41. What has made McCain a war hero?

He is just as much a war hero as all those Germans that we capture and held prisoner during WWII. He wasn't much of a pilot and got his ass shot down. I will even overlook the fact that he provided information to the "enemy." But war hero, hell no. Nothing but a bunch of crapolla.

[Honeycombe8]

43. Maybe the German prisoners we captured were war heros, too. Not mutually exclusive.

I consider him a war hero. When you're tortured for years, then given the chance to go home but ask to stay, out of a sense of duty to others, that's a war hero. Few people would or could do that.

I don't know or care what info he may, or may not have, given to the enemy. To the extent he knew anything. Apparently he didn't say everything they wanted because they cont'd torturing him for years. There are eyewitness accounts to that, BTW.

He's a hero. Deal with it. So was Kerry, btw.

[mitchum]

72. The Uniform Code of Conduct, not McCain's "sense of duty"...

is what prevented him from taking early release. His sorry ass would have been facing a court martial when he came back to the US.

I can't believe I am reading McCain myth mongering on this board.

[Honeycombe8]

136. He didn't have to. I'll research that a POW would've been court martialed for

accepting release, while others remain. It has happened quite a lot, so I'm sure there's a record somewhere of all the court martials.

It's no myth. Have you served, like Kerry? Do you remember the swiftboating of Kerry, a war hero? Some of you guys sound like they did. It doesn't make it right, when it's against THEIR political candidate.

Please give your links to the law that makes it a military crime to accept release, when there are other POWs in the same camp. Please give your links reciting the critical information that McCain gave to the enemy. I like facts. So far, I'm not seeing any that say he is not a war hero. By contrast, I have seen men on TV give eyewitness accounts of McCain's POW experiences. Plus, there is his firsthand account. Those are called facts. State yours (with links, since you weren't at that POW camp, I assume).

[mitchum]

137. Apparently, YOU haven't served if you are not familiar with the Uniform Code of Conduct

YOU provide evidence of his alleged "heroism" and "honor" (evidence, not the myth)

Until then, buzz off..."indie"

[frylock]

76. the given the chance to go but decided to stay crap has been debunked..

debunked by one of mccain's fellow POWs. it's first in, first out, and johnny boy wasn't even close to being released. please try and stay informed before posting RW talking point BS.

[dgibby]

130. Would you still consider him a war hero if you knew he

left the scene of one of the worst aircraft carrier disasters in history, went to the ready room (a sort of "lounge" for pilots) and watched the ship and his shipmates on the flight deck burn to death in jet fuel on closed circuit tv? Would you still call him a war hero if you knew that the next day, he flew off the ship with a reporter and went on R&R, leaving the crew to care for the dead and dying?

Personally, I think he's lower than pond scum, a spoiled, privileged, sociopathic asswipe.

[mitchum]

138. Hell,I suspect that poster would give him a handjob and a complimentary ball wash

[wvbygod]

59. So shut the hell up, Baldwin?

Maybe we should tone down the anti-1st amendment speech until Barack closes the deal?

Just sayin'

[complain jane]

13. What a flake.

[HughMoran]

14. Ignorant moron

Looks like another to boycott viewing. What an ass.

[mitchum]

24. It's easy to boycott Baldwin...what the hell is he appearing in?

[HughMoran]

25. lol - I had that thought

I was trying to remember what this right-wing troll was in recently.

[mitchum]

26. I think he just appears in "Jesus Was A Radical Dude" features shown in church basements

[cui bono]

115. Celebrity Apprentice. I kid you not.

Status - Fired

[vaberella]

15. I can honestly tell you as an Independent, I didn't realize I was in the midst of many idiots.

Really and truly, I'm shocked by the people who are Independents. Not to mention why the hell do they use it as an example that they're "nuetral" or impartial in their decision making? Obviously they're not.

Further more, the statement I hate the most and makes no damn sense.

Q: Is Barack Obama the wrong choice for our country?

A: No, Barack is not the wrong choice. I just don’t think he's the right choice.

Does the above make any sense, really?!

I won't even begin to touch on the problems I have had with this statement...it's people like McCAin that became complacent and allowed our nation to fall into the mess it's in today. Serving America into oblivion.

Q: How is McCain more for America than Obama?

A: He served it 24 years longer.

Not to mention Stephen Baldwin always had "snakey" eyes.

[RoadRage]

16. Well, McCain has lil Baldwin... we have Powell.

I think our guy can beat up there guy. Just a hunch. ;)

[BlueIdaho]

17. Project much Steven? nm.

[RC]

19. Another reality challenged, facts poor 30%'er.

This guy is special because?

[PBS Poll-435]

20. Biodome

'Nuff said.

[1corona4u]

21. So, by his own words...

"If you look up the definition of the words, a terrorist is someone who incites violence."

Palin is a terrorist, as is mccain, their surrogates, ashley todd, etc.....

[Sheepshank]

112. metaphorically speaking.

Palin and McCain gave birth to Ashley Todd

I may just have to go vomit somehwere.

[Raschel]

22. McCain's the one who's wanted the presidency for a long time! He even said the reason was

pure ambition.

Baldwin contradicts himself so many times in that piece.

[JBoy]

27. I burst out laughing after reading "creepy" and then seeing his picture.

[City Lights]

28. No shit! I read this and thought, dude, if you want to see creepy, look in the mirror!

:rofl:

[olegramps]

29. Born again Christian says all that I need to know.

[Lint Head]

31. This son of bitch is a narcissistic Paul and Jan Crouch TBN

ass kisser. He cares about no one but himself. He uses the very Jesus he says he believes in to make money and use people. He is about as gentle a Christian as a sledge hammer. With this jerk you can definitely judge the book by it's cover. Apologies to Alec for having such a creep for a brother. :dem:

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

52. Doesn't all of TBN use Jesus to suck money out of people?

Their prosperity gospel swill is truly some of the most offensive, dishonest, evil uses of religion I have ever encountered. Not only is it a transparent scam with its "seed money" come-ons, but as a philosophy, a way of life it is right up there with "The Secret" in terms of absolute bullshit malarkey. I'll take a simply insane EndTimes propheteer over a malignant Prosperity profiteer any day.

Whew. That felt good.

As for Stephen Baldwin, it is no surprise he is resistant to Barack Obama's charisma, not possessing any of that quality himself.

[Lex]

32. Alec must be so proud of this nutjob for a brother.

[bluedawg12]

33. He's a born again moran, he plays the thoughtful

guy, hinting at his own spiritual rebirth, but basically it's all about himself.

He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[charlyvi]

34. Thanksgiving dinner must be interesting

at Baldwin homestead.

[mitchum]

37. We can assume that there are two turkeys at the table

[charlyvi]

40. LOL!

Or maybe one cooked goose. Not to mentin the humble pie with a side dish of crow he'll be served after Nov. 4.

[kestrel91316]

38. Why are these freaks STILL going on about the fucking BIRTH CERTIFICATE??

We have all seen it here: a certified copy issued by HI on the typical paper they issue them on, very simple and straightforward, and you can even see the ink coming through from the certification date on the back.

Jeebus H. Christ.

[RepublicanElephant]

39. c'mon stephen, what's the REAL reason?

jealous of alec's good looks, talent and success?

[earth mom]

42. Why in the hell is this right wing propaganda posted here on DU?!

I don't give a damn what psycho Steve has to say! :puke:

[H2O Man]

44. He is a pathetic ass.

I'm sure that he does find Obama frightening.

[Born_A_Truman]

45. What he's saying is "It's HIS (McCain's) turn"...

SB was on LKL the other night and he looked like a vampire.

I can't believe he's bringing up the BC issue. It's been debunked. Do they need an official announcement by the state of Hawaii to STFU?

[xchrom]

46. hey stephen -- your fifteen minutes is under a rock in alaska. nt

[Blue_In_AK]

47. Two words...

Zebra Lounge.

[LynnTheDem]

48. "He's literally one the last of a dying breed of heroes." No, steven, 10 more just died

in Iraq.

Stupid MFer.

[onager]

49. He was in one decent movie, but stunk it up as usual...

1988, The Beast. (Released overseas as The Beast of War.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094716/

"It's hard to be a good man in a bad war."

Even if you hate war movies, I think most of you will enjoy this tight, gripping story of a Russian tank and its crew getting lost in Afghanistan.

It's hard to watch some scenes without thinking of the nightly news right now. Like the beginning, when a Soviet tank platoon roars into an Afghan village and blows up the mosque.

Of course, this was 1988, when the mujhadeen were still seen as heroes in the West.

Shot for a budget of about $1.98, in Israel. (Wonder what the mujhadeen thought about THAT?)

Oh, Stephen Baldwin. Meh. He plays a tank crewman named Golikov, in a real character part: he drinks the tank's hydraulic fluid.

As one IMDB reviewer noted...

Good performances (except for maybe Stephen Baldwin, who has no business being here -- or anywhere else).

[crazy_vanilla]

50. and John McCain isn't a politician? or creepy?

Steven is all wrong all the time.

[jeanmarc]

51. Not a strong thinker...

[bluedawg12]

53. He's the dumb "hokesy" Baldwin

He's a moran looking for relevance.

>>Personal life

Stephen Baldwin reads to children at the White House Easter Egg Roll.Baldwin became a born-again Christian shortly after the September 11 attacks.<7><8> Since converting, he has sought to evangelize young people through projects such as The Breakthrough Ministry,<9> which involves skateboarding and extreme sports, Christian rock concerts, laser light shows, and fireworks - wikipedia<<

Deep thinker:

>>Baldwin: September 11th kind of freaked me out. I said, “Hey, what’s this all about? My wife’s a Jesus freak. Maybe it’s time I begin thinking about this faith thing.” Pursued it, became born again...
http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/interviews/Stephen-Baldwin_111306.aspx<<

-------
Europeans see our idiotic socio-babble and Stevie is just the man for quotes for der speigel:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,430094,00.html

>>"There isn't enough police presence, drugs are permitted and tolerated and there are bums all over the place. If you allow lawlessness, it'll lead to decay. Ever since I became a religious person, I've noticed how much our country is deteriorating. We're more worried about trees and rivers than about people. How can people who are so concerned about the environment allow a porn shop? The answer is easy. We stare at our constitution, which is so full of rights that everything gets mixed up and there are no more limits. For example, if one state after another allows gay marriage, maybe it'll be legal for a father to marry his daughter in ten years. What'll happen next? Can a woman marry her German Shepherd dog? Twenty years ago, the US mainstream considered gay marriage just as wrong and misguided as a woman marrying her dog. Where is all this going?"<<



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[gblady]

54. boy....talk about creepy....

has dude looked in a mirror lately???
now, that's creepy.

[VoodooGuru]

55. Well, guess we can add him to the list of right-wing usual suspects.

;)

[grantcart]

56. I find this OP the most ironic in a loooooooooooooooong time

Here we have an underperforming nepotistic actor supporting an underperforming nepotistic politician.


Without Stephen's brother we would never know this guy and without John McCain's father and grandfather we would never had heard of him.

Nepotistic Underperformers of the World Unite!!

[KathieG]

57. I think I remember Alec saying that Stephen was dropped on his head as a child.

:shrug:

[Left Is Write]

61. Wait...Stephen Baldwin is discussing what makes someone ELSE creepy?

This guy wrote the book on BEING creepy!

Oh, and Stephen? Fuck off with your unfounded accusations.

[Mad_Dem_X]

62. Yo, Steve:

Sit down and have a nice big cup of Shut The Fuck Up.

[mwb970]

66. Here's what's creepy about Baldwin: There's *nothing* going on with this dude. /nt

[Chloroplast]

68. Ugh, he's sending wafts of Wild Turkey and stale cigarette smoke through my screen.

[frylock]

69. so was he drunk or was he high when came up with that?

nobody cares what you think, fignuts.

[RagAss]

71. His Brothers love him...nonetheless...look at those vacant eyes ....

[Mother Of Four]

73. I feel a little stupid for being this way-

But every time I see this guy I literally get nauseous. I can't help it, he really and truly grosses me out. (Yes, I was a teen in the 80's, and there is no better phrase that comes to mind with me.)

But hey, at least his personality is good right? Oh...yeah...we're talking SB here. No saving graces.

Does anyone else feel that way? I've seen responses with him being creepy, but for me "creepy" doesn't begin to cover it.

[Starry Messenger]

74. Airhead alert...WTF!

A: No, Barack is not the wrong choice. I just don’t think he's the right choice. Barack Obama is clearly a smart guy, talented. I think that guys like Obama, like Clinton, have had their eyes on this goal for a long time … becoming President of the United States. I don't believe personally that Barack Obama cares for America as authentically as John McCain.


Um, how many times has McCain run for president compared to Obama? GAH!! There is so much stupid in this Baldwin I can't believe he has enough brain to keep his ears apart!! "Not even close. He's got Keating Five. He doesn't have things about his record and history and being that are in question." What!?

I hope his brother blasts him.

[mitchum]

78. Baldwin is a hymnbo

[votetastic]

75. We can all thank our lucky stars that he'll be moving out of the country

[ismnotwasm]

77. The bible says a lot of shit

Including stoning wayward offspring to death.


Steve Baldwin; Another biblical cherry picker for Jesus.

Obama has made it clear he is NOT "pro abortion"-- whatever that means. Baldwin, on the other hand is clearly a "forced birther." He wants to forced continued pregnancies on women everywhere.

Here is an interesting website;

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_biblh.htm

"Numbers 5:12-31 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water..... This passage describes a ritual that a husband could force his wife to endure if he suspected that she had engaged in an adulterous relationship. He would take her and an offering of barely meal to the tabernacle, where the priest would make a magical drink consisting of holy water and sweepings from the tabernacle floor. He would have the woman drink the water while he recited a curse on her. The curse would state that her abdomen would swell and her thigh waste away if she had committed adultery. Otherwise, the curse would have no effect. If she were pregnant at this time, the curse would certainly induce an abortion. Yet nobody seems to have been concerned about the fate of any embryo or fetus that was present. There was no similar magical test that a woman could require her husband to take if she suspected him of adultery"

And after that
Numbers 31:17-18 Now, kill all the boys. And kill every women who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. This occurred at end of the genocidal campaign against the Midianites. Moses, presumably under orders from God, ordered the soldiers to kill every boy and non-virgin woman. Presumably, a significant percentage of the latter would be pregnant. So, their fetus was killed along with the mother-to-be. The female virgins would be spared, because they were considered to have significant value. The fetuses would be destroyed, presumably because they were perceived to have had no value.

So this "what the bible says" bullshit makes me sick. I once had a tee shirt made that said "Jesus would slap the Shit out of You. I gave it to my oldest daughter.

I think I'll get another one.

[Critters2]

80. So we're not getting Barney Rubble's endorsement. Yeah, that's gonna hurt. nt

[firedupdem]

82. He's a druggie loser and ugly too. I would expect him not to know

better.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

83. He's fucking ugly is what he is.

Inside and out. Looks like he's had his face inflated. It must be all that hot air he's blowing around.

What. a. tool.

[No Elephants]

84. Obama is not the right choice bc he is a politician? Then, what the hell is McCain-the tooth

fairy? No offense to dumb people or creepy people, but this guy is as dumb and creepy as it gets. Ok. that's an exaggeration. Not by a lot, though.

[Joanne98]

85. There's something creepy about Stephen Baldwin!

[polichick]

87. Yeah, talk about "something else going on with this dude!"

[SoxFan]

88. The Billy Ripken of Hollywood

[Sewsojm]

89. What an Idiot, and a piss poor actor to boot!!

[frogmarch]

90. EEK! What a freak!

I feel sorry for Alec having him for a brother.

[quakerboy]

91. Heres whats creapy about Stephen: he looks like his bro, but with brain damage.

[whistler162]

92. Steven a piece of advice.....

when you visit your mother DON'T DRINK FROM Onondaga Lake!

[whistler162]

93. Steven a piece of advice.....

when you visit your mother DON'T DRINK FROM Onondaga Lake!

[CreekDog]

95. And I thought he was off drugs by now

Whoops! :crazy:

[mwei924]

96. LOL.

The Baldwin without looks or a career.

[liberal1973]

97. "I'm a registered Independent" lol..BS

A typical lying un-American coward right winger.

"I'm a registered Independent" lol..This guy is stupid and lying. What's next I'm a centrist?:nopity:

[grace0418]

98. Stephen Baldwin wants to talk about "creepy"? Kettle, there's a pot holding on line one.

I thought that idiot was creepy long before I ever knew he was a right-wing moran.

[graywarrior]

99. A rational piece of crap if I've ever seen one.

What a loony toon.

[PfcHammer]

100. McCain is more for America than Obama cuz he served it 24 years longer

cuz he's 100 years older. :rofl:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

101. Since he is so into war heroes, I assume he voted for Kerry?

[IndianaGreen]

102. Another of those psychologicallly damaged "born-again" Christians

Who Is Christ for Us?

By Retired Bishop JOHN SHELBY SPONG - Taken from Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism

My quarrel with fundamentalist and conservative Christians is not their right to believe as literally as they wish to believe. It is rather with their attempt to define Christianity so narrowly that only fundamentalists or conservatives can be included within the definition. It is their need to impose their truth on all Christians as the only truth that I resent. At this point biblical fundamentalism and the official position of the Roman Catholic church with its defined orthodoxy and papal claims to infallibility are remarkably similar, if not in form at least in intention. Both are, in my opinion, remarkably wrong and remarkably destructive to Christian truth and to a Christian future.

But who is Christ for us? How would we tell the Christ story if Jesus had been a reality of this contemporary period of human history? Surely it would not be in terms of the anthropomorphism of the first century. We do not envision God as a superhuman man who dwells beyond the sky. To talk of a Father God who has a divine-human son by a virgin woman is a mythology that our generation would never have created. and obviously, could not use. To speak of a Father God so enraged by human evil that he requires propitiation for our sins that we cannot pay and thus demands the death of the divine human son as a guilt offering is a ludicrous idea to our century. The sacrificial concept that focuses on the saving blood of Jesus that somehow washes me clean, so popular in evangelical and fundamentalist circles, is by and large repugnant to us today. This understanding of the divine-human relationship violates both our understanding of God and our knowledge of human life.

To see human life as fallen from a pristine and good creation necessitating a divine rescue by the God-man is not to understand the most elementary aspect of our evolutionary history. To view human life as depraved or victimized by original sin is to literalize a premodern anthropology and premodern psychology.

Yet historic Christianity has traditionally been understood in terms of these categories. Baptism to wash way the stain of Adam's sin in the newborn child is just one practice that emerges out of that understanding. To frighten parents into baptism by suggesting that their unbaptized infants might be damned to an eternity apart from God is insulting primarily to God. Who among us could worship such a deity? To traffic in guilt as the church has done, to take the beauty and life-giving quality of sexual love and distort it with layer after layer of sexual guilt is simply no longer defensible, if it ever was. Surely the experience of the Christ in this moment of history would not result in a use of these words and concepts to give rational form to the reality of that experience.

http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/spong3.html

[fishwax]

105. what a tool

:rofl:

[Raster]

107. The definition of irony: Stephen Baldwin calling ANYONE creepy.

[cui bono]

108. To quote the Talking Heads:

"You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything."

Just like McCain.

I would love to hear the conversations at the Baldwin's Thanksgiving day dinners.

[begin_within]

110. Is he the "runt" of the litter?

[Cha]

114. Shouldn't Alec tell him that

it is he who creepy?

[tsuki]

118. Creepy?!? Pot meet kettle. nt

[mitchum]

119. I imagine that even Jim Belushi mocks and scorns Stephen Baldwin

[Bluenorthwest]

120. Stephen is a fucking soft porn 'actor'

He is in the most vulgar films. What a dolt, and worse a constant liar, gossip, and bearer of false witness.

[chappydog26]

121. *Snort*

Since when did we start listening to Stephen Baldwin?

:spray:

This dude's a joke and he knows it.

[Raineyb]

122. I thought he was going to leave the country if Obama won

Shouldn't he be packing his bags or something?

Regards

[Canuckistanian]

123. I think even puppies would creep this guy out

What a loser.

[Jackeens]

124. ** delete **

[JohnnyRingo]

125. Independent my ass...

I've had republican friends tell me this recently, but I just get a puzzled look from them when I ask who the last Democratic president was they voted for.
They can't say Clinton, because they'd be voting for Obama. They can't say Carter, because he was more liberal.

I usually then tell them that "if they weren't so lazy, they would have re-registered after they voted for Ross Perot"
Bingo...that usually brings about an admission they supported him, and wished he's won.

"Independent" my ass.

[xxqqqzme]

126. Get back on the short bus, stevie

He calls Obama a politician and in the very next breath says mclame is more American because he's been in the senate 24 years (actually mclame was elected in '86 so that is 22 years mr math challenged).That makes mclame, by my definition, a professional politician.

[Fire1]

127. 'Dying breed,' thank God!

[MNDemNY]

128. The Baldwin nodody cares about.

[spanone]

129. i fart in his general direction

:spray:

[AlCzervik]

131. He looks like a kid toucher.

[and-justice-for-all]

134. He is a such a moron...

24 years is plenty of time to pile up a questionable record, which McCrypt has. McCrypt will follow whatever group will take him or tolerate him. He has anger management issues, he looks down on women and numerous other things too.

I can not call McCrypt a hero, he got caught, then turned on the person who saved his life after he was caught. He was no Rambo, who was fighting his way out of the jungle and lived to tell the tale. McCypt fire bombed villages for fucks sake.

Just because he was captured, does not make him leader worthy. McCrypt has some left over hatred and revenge and does not need to be in any way at the helm and allowed to direct our military.

"a terrorist is someone who incites violence", like Shrub Co.? The bible is fiction and is not to be taken literally. Pro-Choice is not Pro-Abortion, it is a decision left to the women or couple involved to make the choice if they so choose, which can be for several different reasons. Obama is PRO-REALITY.

McCrypt is Pro-George Bush and has never strayed from his dark overlord, he voted with what ever shurb wanted to do, McCrypt is no Maverick. Back in the 80s, he was more centered, but in the early and late 90s, became a rethug asshole.

Stephen Baldwin, you looked stoned off your ass.

[bigwillq]

135. What a fucking scumbag.

:puke: :mad:

[deadparrot]

139. Yeah, there is "something else going on." It's called intelligence.

I know we're all unfamiliar with the concept after eight years of the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

[Imagevision]

140. Stephen wtf are you doing? you try to come across cleaned up and your a...joke!

[goletian]

141. ugh whatta dork. lol at his antiabortion bible quote. yeah, the rest of that also says...

that he made him prophets unto the nations... cuz he was talkin about a specific person, not everyone. and god can see past, present and future. so who cares when he knows us? he can know us a million years before we are conceived!

[Generic Brad]

142. Who here takes Barney Rubble seriously?

I do not.