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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:32 AM
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More: Pittsburgh Police release official statement regarding incident
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 11:33 AM by sabra
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:35 AM
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1. So....
the two accounts utterly contradict each other. In one she's awake the whole time, and in the other she's unconscious and has no idea what's being done to her. :eyes:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:36 AM
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3. so we have an unconscious 20 year old woman laying on a busy street and no witnesses...
:shrug:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 AM
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13. But usually the amnesia comes *first*...!
In this case she initially remembered the full details...but then un-remembered them..!
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:36 AM
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2. First she remembers turning over $60 to him, then she doesn't remember giving him any money?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:26 PM
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54. If she already had $60 bucks on her...
why did she need to use an ATM? $60 bucks is a lot of money -- certainly enough for a night out.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:37 AM
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4. SHE IS SO FUCKING BUSTED!
I feel bad for all the black people she put under suspicion w/ her vile race baiting. The stupid, fucking asshole. I hope she gets everything she deserves.

All her pea brained Republican, scum friends should ALSO ostracize her for putting the final nail in McCain's political coffin.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:38 AM
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5. Make sure that the description of "the actor" is not that of the "mean janitor" who took down her
political signs from the YouTube video below ... made by ... wait for it ... TODD! :crazy:

This whole saga does NOT pass the smell test. :eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-5nr3NK34
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:46 AM
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16. WTF? I only saw the guy sweeping the floor while B girl
talks about he took down the sign she worked so hard to make and put up. I looked at it a few times and never seen his hands move from broom or dust pan, wtf.
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:38 AM
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6. Am I reading this right?
"We have received photos from the ATM machine at the Citizen's Bank and the photographs was verified as NOT being the victim making the transaction."

Okay, so terrible grammar from the Pittsburgh police aside, is this saying that the ATM cameras don't even show her using the ATM where she claims to have been mugged?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:40 AM
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8. Yup, SHE DIDN'T USE THE ATM!!!
What an idiot.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:46 AM
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15. So she had $60 on her?
Why was she frantically searching for an ATM then?

And if you're going to drive SO long to find an ATM, and not find the one you claim you want (BOA) and you feel like you're in a dodgy neighborhood, why would you pick the ATM you have to park and walk to, instead of a more secure drive-up?

I have no room to talk, but looking at this woman, avoiding walking is probably pretty high on her list of priorities.

She did report that the assailant forced her to reveal her ATM passcode: BOSCO
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:57 AM
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30. why did the "actor" just take $60?
why didn't the "actor" force her to withdraw the max?

where's the transaction receipt?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:06 PM
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32.  most of Bloomfield isn't particularly dodgy, actually
to be fair, if she's a GOTV type, she probably walks a lot.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:06 PM
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33. frantically searching for an ATM when you already have $60 on you n/t
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:21 PM
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49. Searching for a BofA ATM according to her records
I guess she just had to settle for Citzen's Bank.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:09 PM
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34. ROFLMAO @ Bosco!!!!
I do miss Seinfeld.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:21 PM
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48. So ashley todd could blog on her Twitter page and
keep all in suspense. :scared:
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:44 AM
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10. It does seem to imply that a transaction was made
Are they saying someone else used her ATM card?
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:47 AM
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18. It's a confusing statement
I'm not sure if they're saying there was a transaction at the right time made on her bank card but not by her, or that there was a different transaction by a different person at the time she was allegedly mugged.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:52 AM
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27. I noticed that too, so WHO made the transaction?.?.?
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 12:03 PM by MagickMuffin
She should also have documentation of the transaction, as well as the undisclosed hospital that she went to at 1:00AM.

"I gave him the $60.00."

"No wait, I don't know where my money went, I guess he took it."

edit: deleted a sentence



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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:11 PM
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35. Or . . .
Do they mean, as it sounds, like there WAS a tranaction made but she wasn't the one who made it?
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:39 AM
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7. lying bitch
throw her ass in jailand make her pay for the investigation.
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chowder66 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 AM
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12. ..until a photograph was taken???
Why didn't she just look into a mirror at her friends place?? Just seems a little odd. Obviously, he could have had a camera in his phone that was handy but still......
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:48 AM
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20. Or her rearview mirror in her car?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:49 AM
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22. and why didn't it hurt?
If I had a black eye, I would certainly look in the mirror.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:50 AM
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24. Don't cars have rear-view mirrors?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:43 AM
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9. I wonder if they even have a single person out looking for the 'actor' lol
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:44 AM
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11. Her accounts couldn't be MORE different!
I'm still in shock that she's trying to go along with this... it's almost as if she's being coached to get herself out of this. Wouldn't a simple review of her bank account show a transaction that evening for 60 bux? Or is she now claiming that she doens't remember if she got the 60 bux after all?
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 AM
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14. Using Street View in Google Maps to view the intersection of Liberty and Pearl, security cameras...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 11:56 AM by The Night Owl
...are clearly visible on the bank where the attack allegedly took place...

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Liberty+and+Pearl+Pittsburgh&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title

If Miss Todd parked her car in front of the bank at the intersection of Liberty and Pearl, then police should have video of the car leaving the scene.
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Thorandmjolnir Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:17 PM
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43. I am not sure if I see this right,
but using street view, there is a red building on the corner with a green ATM. Assuming this is the ATM in question, it is RIGHT UNDERNEATH A STREET LIGHT!
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:24 PM
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52. Yes. There appears to be a box of some sort right above the ATM.
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 12:27 PM by The Night Owl
The box is probably a light. If you look at the Pearl street side of the building, however, you can see one camera on the side of the building and two cameras in the back.

I wonder why the building doesn't have a security camera in the front. Perhaps it's hidden.

Edit: The camera on the side of the building appears to be pointed away from Liberty Avenue... so it might not have footage of Miss Todd's car leaving the intersection.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:46 AM
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17. My favorite part is that she didn't know of the B until they showed her a photo.
Wouldn't her friend have said.. OMG there's a B on your face!!! When she came in the door? And if you were "Beaten in the face" the first thing you'd do is go to a mirror to see how bad it was. Must have been a magic camera...
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:51 AM
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26. See #20 - she drove to her friend's house without ever looking in the rearview mirror?
This is utterly ridiculous at this point.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:15 PM
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40. And she didn't look to determine the extent of her injuries?
But she had the cognitive capacity to say that this guy fondled her breast and said bad things about John McCain?

They sure do grow Republicans stupid these days.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:47 AM
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19. This girl's story is a great analogy for the mcRacist campaign.
The girl claims that a horrific thing was done by a black man.
(McRacist claims that Obama is "pallin' around with terrorists")

But the police seem to doubt her story because of inconsistencies.
(Media realizes that Obama was 8 years old when the alleged terrorists were in action)

Girl changes story in an attempt to cover up her original lies.
(McRacist moves from smear to smear hoping that one will work).

The girl becomes a national laughing stock and is reviled as a race baiter.
(Ditto).

No wonder she supports mcRacist, she's the embodiment of his entire campaign on a personal scale.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:50 AM
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23. Typical republcion hate propaganda pack of foma
Don't republicons ever tell the truth?
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:48 AM
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21. she wasn't aware of what happened to her cheek until somone took a photo and showed it to her?
:wtf:

i would want to look in a mirror to see the damage
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:51 AM
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25. wow... she is a TERRIBLE liar...
the second story does not jive with the first one on almost every point. She is in deep shit, unless the Pittsburgh PD decide to give her a pass.

Please, I hope they throw the book at her. (and the book shelf, too)

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:13 PM
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38. I suspect the DA will demand a full apology to the people of Pittsburgh
in exchange for dropping charges of filing a false police report.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:23 PM
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50. that's it??????
She should at least reimburse them for the cost of the investigation.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:53 AM
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28. she can drive at night without her glasses?
that must have been difficult. Especially with the black eye issue.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:56 AM
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29. beaten about the face and all she has is a "black eye"???
earlier statment said kicking and punching - so where are those bruises?

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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:01 PM
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31. why is he referred to as a black ACTOR?
:shrug:


other than that we need the lying sack of crap song Stephanie Miller plays on this one.

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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:12 PM
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36. I think that's just police legalese
He's the one acting in the attack.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:20 PM
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46. oh ok.. makes sense
thanks
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:12 PM
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37. 'Cause that's what the police call all alleged criminals.(eom)
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:15 PM
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39. Maybe it was Denzel Washington?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:16 PM
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42. Two words: Don Cheadle
It was Don Cheadle, with a dull butter knife, in the study.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:15 PM
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41. Why does it say ...
"actor"?
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:20 PM
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47. It's just terminology, the "actor" is the aggressor.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:25 PM
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53. Police lingo for "alleged perp"
Not 'actor' as in the entertainment sense.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:17 PM
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44. If she was unfamiliar with the area, how did she know
how to get to her friends house from there?

When I was mugged a few years back, I didn't have any money on me (I worked for a non-profit at the time, so I was always broke) so my muggers took what I had, my cell phone. Yet she still had her Blackberry because she Twittered about the event after it took place.

So, she was okay enough mentally to Twitter that she was going to blog about it later? Someone who had just been "beaten about the face, kicked in the ribs, had a 'b' scratched on her face and sexually assaulted" and she Twitters, 'Wait to you see my blog post, it was a rough night.'

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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:19 PM
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45. If you're knocked unconscious,
there would be some actual physical evidence of it, such as a concussion.



She's a TERRIBLE liar.
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Wolfies Revenge Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:24 PM
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51. how long before Ms. Todd mentions Bill Ayers
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:32 PM
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55. so..did the police meet her at the scene of the crime or did she call them
after she went to the friends house?

If the police came to the scene....then they would have seen the B and I am sure it would have come up in conversation.

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serrano2008 Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:35 PM
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56. Didn't she cry even? Come on women, back me up...
Every 20 year old woman I've ever known who has had something even semi-traumatic happen to them has cried for days about it. Not just a little crying, but if this all really happened to her, she would have gotten in the car and started crying massively, and if the picture going around was taken within a day of this event happening, her eyes and nose would both be red from her crying so much.

Not that we need another reason to disprove this lady who should have practiced this more before embarrassing herself and her family in front of the whole country...but she would definitely have some physical signs of crying from this.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:37 PM
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57. No cell phone call to 911?
Raise your hand if you wouldn't find someone to call 911 immediately or look in the mirror to see your injuries or if you are bleeding? If she needs glasses to drive, how did she manage to get to her friend's house?
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