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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:10 AM Original message |
Our message to voters should be: cast provisional ballots no matter what! |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. But wait, RFK, Jr. on Rachel's show said last night we SHOULDN'T cast provisional ballots |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. My understanding is they are counted in close races. Is he suggesting no vote at all? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. So if all of our voters cast provisional ballots, it won't be close. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Provisionals are a tiny bit better than casting no vote at all. But people should first |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. He also said the reason AA's are so disenfranchised as voters |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. OF COURSE NOT. RFK Jr. and Greg Palast -- Steal Back Your Vote dot org -- are the experts. |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I remember that too--he was pretty emphatic about it |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Another good reason to vote early where possible. It allows time to |
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vanlassie (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. But I agree it is a good last resort. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. I think what he meant is that if you can fight for a real one, that's the better |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. No way, demand an absentee ballot. The provisionals will never be counted /nt |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Ok- even better. But we need to think constructively |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. You are right /nt |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. Thom Hartman calls provisional ballots "placebo ballots," because... |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Wiki says 80% of provisional ballots were counted in the 2006 election ... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'll believe Thom over Wiki any day. Call his show today and ask him. |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. My point is: provisional is far better than nothing. I'd prefer absentee if possible |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. That's very different than "voters should cast provisional ballots no matter what!" |
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vanlassie (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. Can you get an absentee ballot on the spot at the polling place? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. No, but that's what you'll get if your state allows you to vote early. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
16. We need to do both |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. It may be too late, but the best message is to check NOW to see if you're okay. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. Correction = VOTE, NO MATTER WHAT. Push for a regular ballot. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
23. NO. DO NOT DO THIS. |
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