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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 04:48 PM
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Michele Bachmann asked today about suggesting Obama is anti-American.

Esme Murphy: ...On "Hardball with Chris Matthews," you said that you were very concerned that Barack Obama had anti-American views.

I've gotten a lot emails about this...please ask...what she means by anti-American views.

Michele Bachmann: It is the associations that Barack Obama has....The national media has had an incredible lack of curiousity about Senator Obama's views, about his relationships, his associations and what real change will mean for the average American.

In terms of dramatic tax increases. In terms of enacting socialized medicine. In terms of enacting a tremendous climate change tax that will cost us 40 trillion dollars.

...I feel his views are concerning and I'm calling on the media to investigate them.

I'm not saying that his views are anti-American. That was a misreading of what I said...I'm calling on the media to take a look at what his views are. 'Cause I think they've had an appalling lack of curiousity.

...Barack Obama and a radical-leftist control of Congress, 'cause remember both the Senate and the House could go Democrat, and this would be the most liberal Senator who could be president, if it's all Democrats in charge, we could have the highest tax increases of modern times.

That could take away the American dream from Joe the Plumbers like me and my husband...


video

donation link for her Democratic opponent, Elwyn Tinklenberg
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 04:53 PM
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1. Michelle you are unAmerican
And what's this nonsense about asking the media to investigate? You are in Congress. You can't open up an investigation??
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 04:53 PM
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2. She is bat-shit I N S A N E !
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:46 PM
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37. I put her on the same insane asylum as Mean Jean Schmidt of Ohio
She is the crack pot representing Ohio's 2nd District that called John Murtha a coward and claimed that China was drilling for oil right off the Florida coast.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:14 AM
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47. Yeah, she's nuts. She has to go.
C'mon, Minnesota, you can't allow this to go on.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:01 PM
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3. Thank you so much, Michele. Nothing we could do could POSSIBLY aid your opponent
more than you Re doing right now! Keep up the good work, Michele! I'm rootin' for ya!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:02 PM
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4. She accused members of Congress of having an anti-American nature
Now she's backing off from what she said, calling it a "misreading"?

Matthews: How many Congresspeople you serve with -- I mean, there's 435 members of Congress --

Bachmann: -- well right now --

Matthews: -- how many are anti-American in that Congress right now that you serve with?

Bachmann: You'd have to ask them, Chris, I'm focusing on Barack Obama and the people he's been associated with --

Matthews: But do you suspect that a lot of the people you serve with --

Bachmann: -- and I'm very worried about their anti-American nature.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:08 PM
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8. In the interview this morning,
...first she gave as examples of Obama's anti-American views: his supposed support of "dramatic tax increases...(and)...socialized medicine."

Then she said that she isn't actually calling him anti-American, but wants the media to investigate if he is.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:03 PM
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5. The woman is nuckin futs!
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:03 PM
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6. The more she says this the more she is going to lose... McCain too...
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:03 PM
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7. She still doesn't get the implication of her words.
That woman is a walking, babbling text-book of Republican talking points.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:16 PM
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9. Yes, she's an attorney and a Congresswoman, and...
... her husband has a ddoctorate in clinical psychology, but she suddenly wants the public to view herself and her husband as "Joe the Plumbers."
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:38 PM
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11. They own Bachmann Counseling -- has about 30 employees
http://www.bachmanncounseling.com

It doesn't look like a small operation. Most of their income would come from either insurace plans or from the State of Minn.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:43 PM
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13. Thanks, I didn't know that they own a business.
Even if Joe-the-Plumber bought the two-man business where he works, he'd still be far from having 30 employees.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:45 PM
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27. Well *that* Joe the Plumber hypothetically nets over $250k a year
So, we can assume that that's what she means.

Because rolling back Bush's tax cuts for this tax bracket is SO, SO Socialist. :eyes:

She clearly doesn't want to contribute to Society. Justs wants to stand on the backs of the poor and middle class.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:09 AM
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46. what I don't get is, why they don't realize that joe the plumber is a
fraud. why would anyone want to associate with someone that can't tell the truth.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 06:53 AM
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40. She went to the law school equivalent of Joe's Bar and Grill
I graduated with Michelle Obama, Harvard '88. I know law schools.
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:34 PM
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10. She's worse than Palin
and that ain't easy. How do assholes like her get elected??
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Nipper1959 Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:43 PM
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26. Shitheads like my sister
vote for her. Single issue idiots.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:39 PM
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12. She plumbs?
:shrug:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:48 PM
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14. And her name is Joe..
Joe McCarthy that is...
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twistedliberal Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:55 PM
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19. !
:spray:
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:49 PM
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15. She does it for Attila the Hun
and he's STILL too far left for her.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:51 PM
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16. She has a JD (law degree) and a Legum Magistra degree in tax law...
...but she likes to think of herself as being in a similar situation to an unlicensed plumber.

Either that, or she's pushing right-wing talking points even she doesn't believe.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:51 PM
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17. Goodbye, Michelle. You are gone. There must be enough sentient beings in your district to reject you
Good heavens (whatever), get rid of her and I hope never to hear of her again.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:55 PM
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18. I watched that bit on the WCCO site
It was a rather fluffy interview. Esme didn't bother to mention the incredible amount of money Tinklenberg raised as a result of crazy Bachman's lil' hate rant.

http://www.wcco.com/video/?id=49118@wcco.dayport.com
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:25 PM
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32. Tinklenberg's fundraising was covered in the local TV news tonight (NT)
NT
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:56 PM
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20. a misreading? is my video player misreading your Palin?
Oh, we so sorry....

Radical control? Radicals, like you? Newsflash: the majority determines the middle. You are on the far far right. Obama is more of a centrist than a radical leftist. It's just math, Michelle. If you believe in math, try it out.

crazy person.

Lock her up.
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 05:59 PM
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21. the woman is out of it
I wonder what she's been smoking/ingesting... She is so self-important... However, MN is turning blue. I wonder how long she is gonna last there? I am going to donate to her opponent.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:17 PM
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23. Thank you.
Whether El Tinklenberg wins-or-loses in November, donating helps get-out-the-vote for Democrats in MN which helps Barack Obama and Al Franken.

If Tinklenberg comes close but loses, then there will probably be a re-match in two years.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:01 PM
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22. Joe the Plumbers like her and her husband-
Just built a 1.5 million dollar home. What a stupid... ok, I won't say it.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:18 PM
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24. It's a good think her mouth is so big. Both feet fit in there.
A half million dollars for her opponent!

That means $0,000 a day in TV ads in that district the next two weeks.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:40 PM
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25. She's NUTZ, I certainly hope she is voted out
in a couple of weeks.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:46 PM
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28. There was a televised debate tonight between the three MN party chairs.
The Republican chair claimed Michele Bachmann's remarks were taken out-of-context.

The Democratic chair disagreed, and so did the Independence Party chair.

The Independence Party chair said he'd never imagined a member of Congress would say the things Bachmann said.

The Independence Party is endorsing the Democrat, El Tinklenberg, in MN-6. (They made their endorsement before this controversy.)
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:46 PM
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29. does she know what a leftist is?
She throws around the jargon of the fringe RW media, but seems to not understnad what the hell the words mean. Like Palin.
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 06:50 PM
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30. vile, vile, vile.....
what else can be said.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 10:26 PM
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31. On the local TV news in MN, Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama...
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 10:28 PM by Eric J in MN
...was covered as partially in reaction to Powell's disgust at Michele Bachamann's remarks.

================
This business of, for example, a congressman from Minnesota who's going around saying:
Let's examine all congressmen to see who's pro-America or not pro-America.

We have got to stop this kind of nonsense, pull ourselves together, and remember that our great strength is in-our-unity and in-our-diversity.

- Colin Powell, press conference October 19, 2008
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:37 PM
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33. and then then the liberals would rule, and then the sky would fall
and then *hyperventilating* we would be socialized, and then socialization would mean sterilization and then that would mean *runs around in circles* the world would end and the sun would blow up and then we would all be in little bits and pieces isn't the media curious about any of this?

cuckoo.

cuckoo.

cuckoo.

Time for your medications Michelle.

<sarcasm>
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:40 PM
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34. uggh, I need a shower
holy crap she's whacked
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:42 PM
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35. Hey, Mz Scumbrain,
you can't walk a cat back once you have killed it. Your hate filled accusations about the next President of the United States, and your diatribe suggesting a media inquisition of the Congress has done you in.

Live with it.

You're pathetic.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 11:44 PM
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36. Michele, Michele, Michele.
Can I bring you some baby oil to help you get your head out of Bush's ass?

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Northofyou Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:28 AM
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43. LOL
:-)
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:44 AM
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38. Michelle, stop it!
You are not endearing yourself to any thinking person.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 06:49 AM
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39. Nuthouse Express ASAP
this creature needs to be silenced NOW.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:03 AM
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41. Wait, so she's a plumber now? I think her mental toilet is clogged...
Apparently, she can flush her career just fine.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:17 AM
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42. She sounds like that RNC robocall
I don't see how a 3% increase on taxes paid on income over $250k is going to take away anybody's dreams.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:07 AM
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44. She has been looking wild eyed crazy on CNN & MSNBC. This local interview she looks reasonable
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 08:09 AM by genna
I think what happened before is she was overconfident about her seat being safe. With the backlash on her, she's trying to say I am a wonderful person. Why would I declare this man and other Congress people Anti-American?

Who little old me?


What I don't get about women who play this aw shucks role when they step into a pile of crap is WHY THEY CAN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FOUL COMMENTS! What is this cutsie stuff (aren't I the cutest woman you ever saw?)? Why don't we hold women to the same standard we ask men to assume when they say something silly, half crazed, or antithetical to everything we believe in a democracy?


Where is the pointed strike asking her what does she believe a pluralistic democracy to mean?
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:36 AM
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45. Here's her quote in case she forgot.
Minneapolis Star Tribune, October 20, 2008
Pat Doyle

On Friday, Bachmann was asked by host Chris Matthews whether she believes that Obama may have anti-American views. She replied, "Absolutely. I'm very concerned that he may have anti-American views."

The exchange took on national scope Sunday as former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell and U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denounced the Republican's comments.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/31261989.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O%20%3Cimg%20src=

There is also a link there to the original MSNBC video. She's blaming her remarks on Chris Matthews now, that's in another story at the link. Oh and, a third link there is a story about Hillary Clinton and Pelosi going to MN this week to campaign. Uh oh, Bachie.

Her big mouth got her opponent $600K in two days, and the big guns coming to campaign against her. Smart move! :sarcasm:

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:29 PM
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49. Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)...
...is pretending she misphrased her words.

But even she isn't saying that. Just that we "misread" her.

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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdJ99zAkoOv-1IIb1WWsqynamj4wD93UGSB00

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a Republican, said it was inappropriate to suggest that Obama has anti-American views, but he offered some sympathy for Bachmann's plight.

"If you do a lot of interviews, eventually you're going to say something that you wish you would have said differently," Pawlenty said at an unrelated news conference at the state Capitol. "It's just the nature of talking all day. Some words are going to come out of your mouth that you could have said better."
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:47 AM
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48. Anyone voting for this lunatic needs serious help.
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:55 PM
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50. She's violating the First Rule of Holes!
Here, Michelle, try this shovel, it's heavier!
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